Chuck Posted August 21, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 21, 2019 Just an FYI K & S has discontinued making many sizes of strip brass and other items. These are staples for us model builders. For example... They are no longer making 1/64" x 1/32" brass strips 1/64" x 1/16" strips 1/64" x 3/32" strips 1/64" x 1/8" strips ect.... Does anyone know of another source for brass strips? I just bought all of their remaining inventory of these strips in bulk....but there wasnt much left. If you know you will need them, find a hobby shop that still has them on the shelf and buy them now while you can. Chuck thibaultron, el cid, Bob Cleek and 2 others 5 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 21, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 21, 2019 Have you tried Detail Associates? They do a lot of model train detail parts, but also carry an assortment of brass rod and strip stock. They don’t have a website, but you can find their products on many model railway retailers sites like Walthers https://www.walthers.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Brass+strip (who also may carry some residual K&S strips in stock) Andy thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted August 21, 2019 Most of these guys all get K & S stuff and they are all out of stock. I need to buy 40- 50 packages. Nobody has them any more. Its more of an FYI for you guys so you can buy a few packages if you need them. The prices on the remaining stock is also going sky high so I noticed that they did have a few left of some sizes you guys should by them.... Otherwise K & S will still make the wider strips like 1/2" wide by 1/64" but you would need to cut your narrower strips from those which isnt easy unless you have a press break. thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted August 21, 2019 Share #4 Posted August 21, 2019 I have been getting my brass strips & angles from Special Shapes - their web site now says --Go to K&S Brass........ EricWilliamMarshall, thibaultron, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted August 21, 2019 Yupp....everyone is stopping MFG which is so weird. Chuck mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted August 21, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 21, 2019 Lee Valley sells brass shim stock, thickest being .015", 1/64" is .0156" so very close. I then cut this using a guillotine paper cutter, works great and very accurate, also much cheaper. They sell a sample pack that includes a piece of each of their thicknesses(6) if you are not interested in buying a full roll. The cutters are not that expensive on Amazon or even Michaels if you wait to get a coupon😉. thibaultron, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 1 other 4 Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cleek Posted August 21, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, donrobinson said: I then cut this using a guillotine paper cutter, works great and very accurate, also much cheaper. Yes, I do the same. I've used a paper cutter for cutting thin copper and brass, as well as paper and card stock, and even veneer strips on occasion. Since I got my Byrnes saw, I run the wood through it now. A paper cutter does "curl" the metal, but that's easily dealt with by doing the old "stretching" trick. I use a vise-grip pliers held in a vise to hold one end and another pair of vise-grips to hold the other end and pull. The strips straighten out without problem. I primarily use copper sheet, which I find easier to work than brass, but I suppose that's mainly a matter of taste. I have a couple of them, one small and one large, both garage sale items. I just checked, though, and almost lost my lunch over the cost of them today. $100 on average for a new smaller one. Still, if you have the chance to find one cheap, grab it. Mine are very frequently used and very handy. They don't replace a good table saw, but for thin stock they come pretty close. Measurements are by eyeball, but you can be sure they will cut a dead straight line as long as you hold onto the workpiece when cutting it. They are great for cutting very narrow strips of paper and card for things like mast bands. If you didn't have a Jim saw, you could cut planking strips from veneer sheets fairly easily, as I've done before, but the blade has to be sharp and the veneer thin. Perhaps a paper cutter would be a low cost alternative to a mini table saw for folks getting into what I'm expecting will be the increase in "semi-scratch" kits like Syren is presently bringing onto the market. thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexnut Posted August 21, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Chuck said: Yupp....everyone is stopping MFG which is so weird. Chuck Tariff increases. Bob Cleek, mtaylor, reklein and 2 others 5 Regards, Bob Marvin Muscongus bay Lobster Smack -Midwest- 1:24- (1st wooden build) Gertrude L. Thebaud Mini-Mamoli 1/200 kitbash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 21, 2019 Share #9 Posted August 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, hexnut said: Tariff increases. That wouldn't surprise me at all. John Allen, Canute and thibaultron 3 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted August 21, 2019 The paper cutter does work but its a real pain when you want accuracy. It really doesnt work perfectly, especially with the thicker stuff. It messes up the edge of the strip too. Cutting a 3/64" wide strip is not easy. You would need a Guillotine Shear cutter that jewelry makers use. They are expensive. With the paper cutters, it will want to pull the sheet in so if you want a perfect 1/16" or a 1/32" wide strip 12" long that is not the way to go. If you can settle with less accuracy and curling then its fine. I may have to buy a good Guillotine shear in the future but when you need 100's of these strips for kits and parts, its not an efficient way to go. Much better to buy 250 strips from K & S bulk wholesale. I dont think Model Expo or Bluejacket can stand in front of a paper cutter making brass strips, LOL. They use far more than I do. I just talked to K & S on the phone....its not the tarrifs. Its just low demand. Nobody is doing the crafts and models like they used to. They are still doing the tubes and other parts. They just discontinued making these because nobody buys them. For you tool guys...This is what I will eventually have to get. But probably a bigger one. They had about 250-300 of the three sizes I use left in the warehouse so I just bought them all. That should last me a few years....Worth it for me as it would take hours to cut those. Bob Cleek, Jack12477, reklein and 6 others 9 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted August 21, 2019 I wish Jim Byrnes had these.....just thinking out loud.... mtaylor, EricWilliamMarshall, catopower and 4 others 7 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Poison Posted August 21, 2019 Share #12 Posted August 21, 2019 This site has a great variety of brass strips.. https://www.mscdirect.com hexnut, thibaultron and Canute 3 Completed.... Charles W. Morgan,Sea Horse,USS Constitution,Virginia 1819,San Fransisco II, AL HMS Bounty 1:48 L'Herminione 1:96 Spanish Frigate,22 cannons 18th C. 1:35 scale.Scratch-built (Hull only) Cutter Cheefull 1806 1:48 (with modifications) Current Project: Orca (This is a 35" replica of the Orca boat from the movie Jaws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuntherMT Posted August 22, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Captain Poison said: This site has a great variety of brass strips.. https://www.mscdirect.com Looks to me like the narrowest strips they have are 1/4" wide, which is pretty large for most of the things we use narrow brass strips for. Still, another source for brass stuff at least! Canute, thibaultron and mtaylor 3 Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Griffith Posted August 23, 2019 Share #14 Posted August 23, 2019 I make strips by attaching he brass to thin plywwod with carpet tape and run that through my Byrnes saw. No curl nice straight edge, I-do have to remove the glue. and sand the edge but I get just the size I need. Duff EricWilliamMarshall, Canute, Bob Cleek and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YankeeD Posted August 25, 2019 Share #15 Posted August 25, 2019 On 8/21/2019 at 10:39 PM, Chuck said: I wish Jim Byrnes had these.....just thinking out loud.... I second that!! And not only that but a table top router as well. Like the proxxon MP400 but then Byrnes worthy thibaultron and Canute 2 Current build 7 Provinciën (Englisch thread): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13719-the-7-provinci%C3%ABn-by-yankeed-scale-150-1665-according-to-drawings-by-mr-o-blom-first-wooden-scratch-ship-build/ For Dutch readers (Dutch thread): http://www.modelbouwforum.nl/threads/nederlands-historisch-zeilschip-het-schip-van-de-ruyter-de-7-provinci%C3%ABn.216834/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted March 31, 2020 Share #16 Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) Anyone have any luck finding 1/64 x 3/32 brass strips. I only need enough for Cheerful so buying cutters isn't a practical solution for me. I've looked high and low for this simple little thing with no luck. Update: I just found this site: https://www.zoro.com/ks-precision-metals-brass-flat-bar-164-x-332-x-12-815021/i/G9105621/ I placed an order, let's see what happens. Edited March 31, 2020 by glbarlow hollowneck, Jorge Diaz O, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Regards, Glenn Current Build: HMS Winchelsea Completed Builds: HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted March 31, 2020 Share #17 Posted March 31, 2020 I seem to recall a Shop Note published in the Journal some years ago where someone photo etched brass strips. Canute 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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