James G Posted December 31, 2022 #151 Posted December 31, 2022 Welcome back, Dave! It’s almost like you’re returning from a sabbatical. Sounds like a fun time but I bet you’re glad to get back to the bench! Happy New Year. Keith Black, CiscoH, Mr Whippy and 2 others 4 1 Quote Jim Current Build: HMS Winchelsea, Model Shipways Mayflower Completed Builds: NRG Half Hull Project Model Shipways 18th Century Armed Longboat Dumas 1954 Chris Craft 36' Commander Dumas 1940 Chris Craft 19' Barrel Back
Ed Ku20 Posted January 2, 2023 #152 Posted January 2, 2023 Dave, Welcome back home! Part of the fun of going on vacation is remembering there's no place like home! I think your stern piece looks great. I kept touching up the brass, then having to touch up the gold I got on the blue and vice versa, then repeat...! I finally said to myself, this has to be good enough. Happy New Year! Ed Dave_E, Knocklouder, Mr Whippy and 1 other 3 1 Quote Thanks & Best regards, Ed Kutay Current build: Model Shipways "Rattlesnake" Completed build: Model Shipways "Bluenose I"
Dave_E Posted January 4, 2023 Author #153 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) What in the wild wild world of sports is a goin on here? 😳 Had to remind the shipyard that it is really a guitar bench. 😆 The Strat needed a long over do tune up. Then my baby needed some new flat wounds. 👍 Edited January 5, 2023 by Dave_E Prowler901, javajohn, Ed Ku20 and 9 others 11 1 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Keith Black Posted January 4, 2023 #154 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) A snake turned into axe right there on your workbench. Edited January 4, 2023 by Keith Black mtaylor and Dave_E 1 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Glen McGuire Posted January 4, 2023 #155 Posted January 4, 2023 Those ratlines are not spaced very evenly. They look a little wider on the left and narrower on the right. Can you fix that, Dave? Keith Black, Mr Whippy, Cathead and 3 others 2 4 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II
Keith Black Posted January 4, 2023 #156 Posted January 4, 2023 The three capstans under the boom don't look like they're positioned correctly? Dave_E, Mr Whippy, AJohnson and 3 others 2 4 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Knocklouder Posted January 4, 2023 #157 Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) I had an axe turn into a snake right in my hands, had to quit drinking for almost 2 hours lol, Welcome home Dave Edited January 4, 2023 by Knocklouder Yep typos 😒 Keith Black, mtaylor, Dave_E and 1 other 1 2 1 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models
Dave_E Posted January 24, 2023 Author #158 Posted January 24, 2023 Hi All, The mood just hasn’t been there to get back into the hull of the ship, so I turned to the cannons. I cleaned up the cannons and I think they turned out satisfactory. The carriages… that’s another thing. I ordered some carriages from Syren for the smallest cannon he makes (which is a 6 pounder I think). Anyway, his cannons measure about a mm and some change longer than these do from MS. I’m going to build one and see how these guns fit. So, while on the gun topic, I had lots of correspondence when building the Lady Nelson regarding breeching rope, rings and tackle. Given both ships are 1:64 scale… is the difference between a 3 or 4 pound cannon and a 6 pounder going to have real differences in the size of the breech line and rings and eyebolts etc. that will be visible on the ship at this scale? I’ve got lots of different sizes of wire to make things from if it makes a difference. I don’t have much information on anything other than breech line size for a 6 pounder. Paul Le Wol, Oldsalt1950, Glen McGuire and 14 others 17 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
RossR Posted January 24, 2023 #159 Posted January 24, 2023 I thought I was the only person who builds their cannons halfway through finishing the hull. A little like have desert halfway through dinner. Glen McGuire, Dave_E, AJohnson and 4 others 7 Quote Completed Build: HMS Beagle - Occre Current Builds: Frigate Diana - Occre https://modelshipworld.com/topic/33530-frigate-diana-by-rossr-occre-185/ Santisima Trinidad - Occre - Cross Section https://modelshipworld.com/topic/37130-santisima-trinidad-by-rossr-occre-190-cross-section/ On the Shelf: NRG Half Hull, the US Brig Syren - Model Shipways and USF Essex - Model Shipways
AJohnson Posted January 24, 2023 #160 Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, RossR said: I thought I was the only person who builds their cannons halfway through finishing the hull. A little like have desert halfway through dinner. 😆 With you, sometimes you need else (with me it can be other models entirely!) as Dave said we can all go through those times when our heart isn't in it. A change is good as a rest. Like the cannons Dave. 👍 Edited January 24, 2023 by AJohnson Dave_E, Keith Black, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Gun-brig Sparkler - Vanguard (1/64) , HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64) Completed (Kits):- Vanguard Models (1/64) :- HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler Caldercraft (1/64) :- HMS Orestes(Mars), HM Cutter Sherbourne Paper Shipwright (1/250) :- TSS Earnslaw, Puffer Starlight
glbarlow Posted January 24, 2023 #161 Posted January 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Dave_E said: al differences in the size of the breech line and rings and eyebolts etc. that will be visible on the ship at this scale? It's the same scale ship, so ropes and rings would all be the same. I build cannons between stages, there are just so many of them, they're a good change up from time to time. I do have to note your trucks seem to be pretty small in relation to the carriage and gun. The Syren trucks are more to scale. Hang in there, just go to the shop and work, it will all get going again. We all get stuck from time to time. Mr Whippy, Dave_E, mtaylor and 3 others 5 1 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Royal Barge, Medway Long Boat Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Dave_E Posted January 27, 2023 Author #162 Posted January 27, 2023 Hi All, I know it’s been said, but I’m looking at the original page of breeching and tackle lines for the different sizes of cannons and ships etc., where those inches for the diameter or the circumference (as it actually makes a huge difference). Sorry for my short memory. 🫤 Keith Black, AJohnson, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Gregory Posted January 27, 2023 #163 Posted January 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dave_E said: the original page What reference is this? Rope measurements were typically circumference, but I have seen exceptions. What does your table say for breeching on 6 pounder? Lavery says the breechings for 4 and 6 pounders were 4 inch circumference.. The tackle was 2 inch for less than 24 pounds. mtaylor, Dave_E, allanyed and 1 other 3 1 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
Dave_E Posted January 27, 2023 Author #164 Posted January 27, 2023 That’s what I’m looking at. Thanks Greg, just making sure that 4” was circumference! 👍😀 Ordered some scale rope from ROS. Mr Whippy, Paul Le Wol, AJohnson and 4 others 7 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Dave_E Posted January 29, 2023 Author #165 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Happy Saturday to All, Well… I don’t think this is a difficult decision. 😆 This took me most of the day. I imagine the time will shorten as I get the rhythm going. This was a first, made all my own eyes and nails (just noticed I don’t have the breech rings on yet). Hats off to Syren for a nice carriage kit. The cannon is the MS Britannia, I’m happy with it. I know, missed the axle wheel retainers. At this scale, they’re going to stay missed. 😄 Went with natural wood wheels on this one just to see if I liked it, they might end up black. Thanks for dropping by! 👍 Edited January 29, 2023 by Dave_E Keith Black, Reggiemon, AJohnson and 13 others 14 2 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Oldsalt1950 Posted January 29, 2023 #166 Posted January 29, 2023 Very nice work Dave. Those cannon look sharp. Jim Mr Whippy, Dave_E, Knocklouder and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: Fair American - Model Shipways Awaiting Parts - Rattlesnake On the Shelf - English Pinnace 18Th Century Longboat I stand firmly against piracy!
Paul Le Wol Posted January 29, 2023 #167 Posted January 29, 2023 I agree. That was a good decision Dave. One heck of a difference isn’t there. AJohnson, mtaylor, Dave_E and 4 others 7 Quote Regards……..Paul Completed Builds Glad Tidings Model Shipways. - Nordland Boat. Billings Boats . - HM Cutter Cheerful-1806 Syren Model Ship Company.
Dave_E Posted January 30, 2023 Author #168 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Ok, 1 down, 9 to go. 😄 The omission of the breeching ring when I thought I was done was a boo-boo. I think I’ll have it on the eye when I put it into the carriage! I also painted all the metal after it was installed. The blackened annealed wire actually looks anemic when next to a black painted piece. So all the metal on the ship is painted or all not. What do you all do/think? Edited January 30, 2023 by Dave_E mtaylor, No Idea, Gregory and 11 others 14 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Keith Black Posted January 30, 2023 #169 Posted January 30, 2023 Dave, I think the carriage and cannon look great except the wheels need to be darker, IMHO. I treat all my brass with Casey's but wind up painting over it as the treatment never looks right. mtaylor, Knocklouder, Glen McGuire and 2 others 5 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
glbarlow Posted January 30, 2023 #170 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Your new cannon is light years better than the one the right. The natural wheels look great, that’s how I’m doing mine. I like that you made your own eyebolts, but would offer the breaching rings are way out of scale too large. Check the Syren Ship Models build monograph for Cheerful or my build log, which followed it) for a best way of making and installing breech lines. .45 - .5 mm rope is a good size for the breech rope in my opinion. Edited January 30, 2023 by glbarlow Knocklouder, javajohn, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Royal Barge, Medway Long Boat Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Dave_E Posted January 30, 2023 Author #171 Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) Thanks Glenn! I looked over your Cheerful build. Your eyebolts and rings… are those blackened annealed or blackened brass, or an off grey/black paint? They just don’t stand out like “black” painted parts. I like them and wish to emulate your process. Edited January 30, 2023 by Dave_E mtaylor, Knocklouder, AJohnson and 2 others 5 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
allanyed Posted January 30, 2023 #172 Posted January 30, 2023 4 hours ago, glbarlow said: Your new cannon is light years better than the one the right. Totally agree with Glenn. For the future maybe consider 3D printed barrels in black resin. If you provide a 3D drawing at full scale, the printer can adjust his equipment to any scale you want. If you are using Blomefield pattern guns the ring on the cascabel will be cast as part of the barrel although at tiny scales, the ring may be problematic for some printers. Printed barrels are usually about $0.50 each or thereabouts so not a huge investment if you want to give them a try. Allan mtaylor, Cathead, Keith Black and 1 other 3 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
glbarlow Posted January 30, 2023 #173 Posted January 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Dave_E said: blackened annealed or blackened brass, or an off grey/black paint Straight up dark annealed steel wire, no paint or blackening. I may hit a shiny spot with Admiralty Iron Works black (my favorite black paint) for the most part I don’t touch them just for the reason you stated. Wire is wire, but I like this Hillman brand bought on Amazon. javajohn, Glen McGuire, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Royal Barge, Medway Long Boat Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose
Dave_E Posted January 30, 2023 Author #174 Posted January 30, 2023 Yep, that’s the stuff. My next cannon will be the bare wire. Thanks! 👍😀 Glen McGuire, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
allanyed Posted January 31, 2023 #175 Posted January 31, 2023 (edited) Further to Glenn's post on the breechings size, which is spot on, the following may be of interest, if even only as a guide for rigging guns. Allan Edited January 31, 2023 by allanyed javajohn, Keith Black, Oldsalt1950 and 1 other 4 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Dave_E Posted January 31, 2023 Author #176 Posted January 31, 2023 I have it, thanks. 👍😀 Keith Black, allanyed and Mr Whippy 3 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Dave_E Posted February 16, 2023 Author #177 Posted February 16, 2023 One of these days I really will get back to building the hull. 😆 Edwardkenway, Glen McGuire, Cathead and 8 others 11 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Knocklouder Posted February 16, 2023 #178 Posted February 16, 2023 Hope so Dave, always like to see how much detail you put in your builds. You make it look easy. Keith Black, Mr Whippy, Dave_E and 2 others 4 1 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models
Oldsalt1950 Posted February 16, 2023 #179 Posted February 16, 2023 Just give it time Dave. We all wind up getting sidetracked every now and again. Jim Dave_E, AJohnson, Mr Whippy and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: Fair American - Model Shipways Awaiting Parts - Rattlesnake On the Shelf - English Pinnace 18Th Century Longboat I stand firmly against piracy!
javajohn Posted February 16, 2023 #180 Posted February 16, 2023 Don't rush, have fun with other projects. That's what keeps us young at heart! John Mr Whippy, Keith Black, AJohnson and 1 other 4 Quote John Current Build: Rattlesnake (Model Shipways 1:64)
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