king derelict Posted October 5, 2022 Share #1 Posted October 5, 2022 Display case for Campanula waiting to dry, Seehund base drying so I wanted something to work on that wouldn't take too long while other things were on hold. This is the VTOL concept Weserflug P1003 in 1/48 scale. I'm not sure if it counts as Luft46 material given that it was a prewar concept that never made it off paper. In essence it has a valid concept but as with all STOVL aircraft the devil is in the details. The two big issues are usually weight vs thrust (its a direct relationship in VTOL) and control. Tilt wing and tilt rotor have culminated in the V-22 and the complexity of the control system is staggering. This was to have been a two man crew with a single fuselage mounted engine driving the overlarge propellors. With driven shafts and gearboxes weight must be an issue and controlling the wing movement must be an issue. With limited wing in the flight plane the aircraft would have to be VTOL rather than STOVL I would think which limits weight even more and the in-air transition would be more exciting. I have spent more than half my career on non-helo STOVL aircraft so I'm a bit of an easy sell for this kit. I'm happy to park my doubts and see how it comes out. The kit comes with a nice big instruction booklet with three colour schemes (all fictitious of course) generally using the leopard spot camouflage in one way or other. Decent sized assembly drawings I doubt this is a recommended flight configuration The sprues are nice and clean, No flash or major mould lines and reasonable injection points to the parts. So fr the parts fit beautifully. Every locating pin fits its partner hole and it is delight to put together. Its a single seat cockpit (weight limitations must have ruled out that second crew member). The main landing gear is very nicely done, made up of four pieces with an arm that clips into lugs in the main leg and then swings down into position in the fuselage. So far this seems to be a very well thought out kit regardless of the authenticity of the finished model. It looks like being a nice side project and I hope you enjoy seeing it come together. Thanks for looking in Alan CDW, mtaylor, Baker and 8 others 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 5, 2022 Share #2 Posted October 5, 2022 Nice project Alan. Looking forward to this one. The Germans paved the way for the modern day, Marine Corps Osprey. Egilman, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 5, 2022 Share #3 Posted October 5, 2022 Well I'm not too much into flights of fancy like Luft '46 and that stuff... But the Germans had a lot of very talented people that could forward think really well... And given time, they would have made a lot of these speculative design ideas a reality... I'm in brother... Canute, Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share #4 Posted October 5, 2022 20 hours ago, CDW said: Nice project Alan. Looking forward to this one. The Germans paved the way for the modern day, Marine Corps Osprey. Thanks Craig. I think this is going to be fun and the kit is a delight. Its my first aircraft so I'm right back at the beginning working out order of assembly and basic stuff about colours. As far as I can tell this is the start of the DNA chain that leads to the V=22 Alan Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share #5 Posted October 5, 2022 17 hours ago, Egilman said: Well I'm not too much into flights of fancy like Luft '46 and that stuff... But the Germans had a lot of very talented people that could forward think really well... And given time, they would have made a lot of these speculative design ideas a reality... I'm in brother... Thanks for joining Egilman. The steadying hand is always welcome. I agree with you I am not very keen on the wild ideas that seem to have come out of Germany towards the end of the war. I assume having a megalomaniac demanding wonder weapons really stimulates the imagination. Although this never made it off the drawing board I think it has its basis in realistic possibility. Weight would be an issue and control and stability in VTOL mode would be interesting but it might have been possible. You only have to look under the hood of an AV-8B to see what you can do with rods, cables and bike chains. Alan Edwardkenway, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 5, 2022 Share #6 Posted October 5, 2022 Think Operation Paperclip. Realize all the technological advances that came as a result of that operation, not the least of which was the 1st manned landing on the moon. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 6, 2022 Share #7 Posted October 6, 2022 Most definitely the West got a treasure trove of flight data, along with the Soviets. Many fascinating concepts that took years to come to fruition. I'm in on this bird. 😁 Egilman, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 6, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted October 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, CDW said: Think Operation Paperclip. Realize all the technological advances that came as a result of that operation, not the least of which was the 1st manned landing on the moon. Definitely Craig. Paperclip had some controversy but it was practical politics in the postwar world. And some of the concepts were valid but the execution had to wait until the associated technologies were available to enable them. In my field the F-35B has a number of previous concepts in it but needs the massive computing power available today to make it flyable, some of which are actually derivatives of Soviet designs. Very little starts in isolation but is a development of something else. Fascinating stuff Alan Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 6, 2022 Share #9 Posted October 6, 2022 I'm in. Fascinating concept aircraft. The Germans did get beyond the manufacturing abilities during war. Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javlin Posted October 6, 2022 Share #10 Posted October 6, 2022 Cool Alan like it whether 46 Luft or not neat ideas abound! mtaylor, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 6, 2022 Share #11 Posted October 6, 2022 2 hours ago, king derelict said: I assume having a megalomaniac demanding wonder weapons really stimulates the imagination. Alan This may have been part of it, but I am not so certain it's the whole of it. Where exactly thoughts and ideas came/come from remains elusive and not beyond debate. The regime of that time dabbled in many things not often seen as 'orthodox'. mtaylor, Egilman, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 6, 2022 Share #12 Posted October 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, CDW said: This may have been part of it, but I am not so certain it's the whole of it. Where exactly thoughts and ideas came/come from remains elusive and not beyond debate. The regime of that time dabbled in many things not often seen as 'orthodox'. And all that reverse engineered stuff - trying to create zero gravity crafts. OC. Canute, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 6, 2022 Share #13 Posted October 6, 2022 The flying wing ideas of the Horton brothers began in the late 30s, I seem to recall. As well as the helos. And the megalomaniac screwed with so many aircraft designs, demanding dive bombers from his twin engine bombers and the Me-262. Delayed deployment of a sizable chunk of the Luftwaffe in these wide goose chases. Luckily for us. Egilman, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted October 6, 2022 Share #14 Posted October 6, 2022 Cool kit !! I have it on my wish list with Squadron and will be following your build log with curiosity. Yves Egilman, Edwardkenway, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyShooter Posted October 6, 2022 Share #15 Posted October 6, 2022 Before the USMC did it, Canada had it done....the CL-84 Dynavert. They even tested a gunship version of it with 7.62 miniguns in pods. Canadair CL-84 Dynavert - Wikipedia Cool project! Old Collingwood, Egilman, Ian_Grant and 4 others 7 Quote Brad/NavyShooter Pending Launch: RMS Titanic - 1/100 - 3D Print - Pond Float display Build Log: HMCS Bonaventure- 1/96 - A Fitting Out Completed Build: HMCS St Thomas - 1/48 - 3D printed Bens Worx Completed Build: 3D Printed Liberty Ship - 1/96 - RC A slightly grumpy, not quite retired ex-RCN Chief....hanging my hat (or helmet now...) in the Halifax NS area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 6, 2022 Share #16 Posted October 6, 2022 Hiller was the first one to get a tilt-wing to fly the X-18 in 1955... They were followed by Curtis-Wright with the X-19 in 1960, followed by the Ling Temco Vought XC-142 in 1964, then the Bell X-22 in 1966 and finally the Canadair CL-84 "Dynavert" in 1972.... But is is important to note that these are all tilt-wing aircraft, the V-22 Osprey is a Tilt-Rotor aircraft, same aeronautical theory, completely different mechanical arrangement... But they are all amazing engineering accomplishments... mtaylor, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #17 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 9:34 PM, mtaylor said: I'm in. Fascinating concept aircraft. The Germans did get beyond the manufacturing abilities during war. Welcome Mark I've been reading up some of my STOVL material and it registered that tilt rotor (like the V-22) requires a surplus of power compared with tilt wing because in tilt rotor you waste thrust blowing on the non-compliant wing. So for the days of limited power (although in STOVL you always have limited power) the Germans made the correct choice. The fixed stub wings might even have given them a little STOVL capability too Alan Egilman, mtaylor and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #18 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 10:31 PM, Javlin said: Cool Alan like it whether 46 Luft or not neat ideas abound! Thanks Jav The leopard camo is going to be interesting. I have a Huckbein and a Me262 HG III in the pile for future indulgences. Alan Javlin, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #19 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 10:40 PM, CDW said: This may have been part of it, but I am not so certain it's the whole of it. Where exactly thoughts and ideas came/come from remains elusive and not beyond debate. The regime of that time dabbled in many things not often seen as 'orthodox'. Craig You are right, I was being a bit frivolous but I do get the impression Hitler wasn't an easy person to tell that the wonder weapons were not working out. As you say their science and arts had some strange and esoteric frontiers all the way to mysticism. Maybe thats a fertile environment for unrestrained thinking Alan yvesvidal, CDW, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #20 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/5/2022 at 10:53 PM, Old Collingwood said: And all that reverse engineered stuff - trying to create zero gravity crafts. OC. Some very wild stuff indeed Alan Old Collingwood, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #21 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 8:20 AM, yvesvidal said: Cool kit !! I have it on my wish list with Squadron and will be following your build log with curiosity. Yves Thank you Yves Its a very well thought out kit so far alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood, yvesvidal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #22 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 8:06 AM, Canute said: The flying wing ideas of the Horton brothers began in the late 30s, I seem to recall. As well as the helos. And the megalomaniac screwed with so many aircraft designs, demanding dive bombers from his twin engine bombers and the Me-262. Delayed deployment of a sizable chunk of the Luftwaffe in these wide goose chases. Luckily for us. Definitely Ken Along with his fat Reichsmarshall I think they severely reduced the effectiveness of the Luftwaffe and could be argued paved the way to losing the war. No complaints on my part. The aviation designs and concepts are fascinating though. The Ho229 in particular. Again an early concept that led to things like the YB-49 i think. I have a Ho229 on the wish list Alan Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmagna Posted October 7, 2022 Share #23 Posted October 7, 2022 Looking forward to what you are able to do with this Alan Old Collingwood, Canute, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #24 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 9:00 AM, NavyShooter said: Before the USMC did it, Canada had it done....the CL-84 Dynavert. They even tested a gunship version of it with 7.62 miniguns in pods. Canadair CL-84 Dynavert - Wikipedia Cool project! Thanks Brad I think there are a number of variations on the tilt rotor / tilt wing theme. Some were pretty successful even before the digital age. Alan mtaylor, NavyShooter, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #25 Posted October 7, 2022 On 10/6/2022 at 12:24 PM, Egilman said: Hiller was the first one to get a tilt-wing to fly the X-18 in 1955... They were followed by Curtis-Wright with the X-19 in 1960, followed by the Ling Temco Vought XC-142 in 1964, then the Bell X-22 in 1966 and finally the Canadair CL-84 "Dynavert" in 1972.... But is is important to note that these are all tilt-wing aircraft, the V-22 Osprey is a Tilt-Rotor aircraft, same aeronautical theory, completely different mechanical arrangement... But they are all amazing engineering accomplishments... Thanks as always Egilman, Great reference information. I have a nagging feeling that there was a German tilt wing post war Dornier maybe? I haven't had time to dig out that STOVL book Alan Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 7, 2022 Author Share #26 Posted October 7, 2022 1 hour ago, lmagna said: Looking forward to what you are able to do with this Alan Thanks Lou I hope you will like it. The kit provides three colour schemes all what i would think as late war. I think I will try what I think is the night scheme of black underside and the leopard light grey and violet grey above Alan Old Collingwood, Egilman, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share #27 Posted October 8, 2022 The cockpit has been finished off in the late war dark grey. I added some dry brush metal on the wear surfaces around the cockpit and a panel line wash. I used the Mig panel line wash and found it didn't flow terribly well until I added more thinner. It's not terribly noticeable but a check with the canopy on suggests it's all going to be invisible anyway. Tape seat belts and I used the Mig crystal fluid in the instrument dials and then some bright metal wear. Then closed it all up. It went together nicely and needed little clamping to hold the fuselage halves together. The fit has been great. The stub wing is quite a complicated shape but it fitted without any persuasion. A coat of Mig One Shot black primer and then onto colours I borrowed someone technique and used clear coat to "glue" the masked canopy in place. It seemed to be a good fit and easier than masking around the seat Thanks for all the input and likes. I hope everyone has a great weekend Alan Canute, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 8, 2022 Share #28 Posted October 8, 2022 Unfortunately the cockpit gets closed up, but you did a nice job beating up the details in it. Typical of a aircraft used hard, with so-so maintenance. Old Collingwood, Egilman, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share #29 Posted October 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Canute said: Unfortunately the cockpit gets closed up, but you did a nice job beating up the details in it. Typical of a aircraft used hard, with so-so maintenance. Thanks Ken It looks a little better closer to actual size 😃 I imagine there were some fast grabs for the controls in this one at times Alan Canute, Egilman, CDW and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 8, 2022 Share #30 Posted October 8, 2022 3 hours ago, king derelict said: I have a nagging feeling that there was a German tilt wing post war Dornier maybe? Yep, The Dornier Do 31... in all respects to the extent they tested it, it surpasses the Osprey... (it was never flight tested to it's full capability) They simply ran out of money and when they tried to sell it to the US Navy for onboard replenishment, they Navy wasn't interested... The first truly successful V/STOL aircraft... And one that most know nothing about... It was actually capable of doing an aileron roll, or what would pass for one in a conventional airplane.... (demonstrated in public, and the test pilot was told to never do it again) It was definitely an example of forward thinking, and of others without that capability deciding what to do... Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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