Canute Posted October 8, 2022 Share #31 Posted October 8, 2022 The "Not Invented Here" syndrome. Seen it a lot in my flying career.😒 mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 8, 2022 Share #32 Posted October 8, 2022 To be fair, there are some compelling reasons to manufacture your own weapons systems. Doesn’t necessarily mean you will do it better but it does give some better control of the supply chain. No one has a monopoly on intellect, but resources and finances are another matter. king derelict, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share #33 Posted October 8, 2022 19 hours ago, Egilman said: Yep, The Dornier Do 31.. YES, you came up trumps as always Egilman. Thats the one I was reaching for. Its a shame it didn't make it into service. Alan Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Egilman and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 8, 2022 Author Share #34 Posted October 8, 2022 11 hours ago, Canute said: The "Not Invented Here" syndrome. Seen it a lot in my flying career.😒 The bane of cooperative ventures. I spent some time at McDonnell-Douglas St. Louis back in the 90s (when corporate budgets allowed office supplies with company names and logos) and there were die-hards who would cut the "-Douglas" off the end of their pencils. Rolls-Royce Derby went out of their way to ignore what was done at Rolls-Royce Bristol. As for Joint European ventures.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Alan mtaylor, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 9, 2022 Share #35 Posted October 9, 2022 I was at a Red Flag flying exercise at Nellis back in the 70s and called an A-4 Sky Hawk a McDonnell Douglas product. They about took my head off. So my beloved Phantom is a McDonnell only product. Mr McDonnell was into the occult with respect to his aircraft. Phantom I & II, Banshee, Demon, VooDoo. Happy Halloween and Samhain. king derelict, Edwardkenway, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 9, 2022 Share #36 Posted October 9, 2022 Mr. McDonnell was a character to say the least and actually acted like a human being around the workers. Canute, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share #37 Posted October 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Canute said: I was at a Red Flag flying exercise at Nellis back in the 70s and called an A-4 Sky Hawk a McDonnell Douglas product. They about took my head off. So my beloved Phantom is a McDonnell only product. Mr McDonnell was into the occult with respect to his aircraft. Phantom I & II, Banshee, Demon, VooDoo. Happy Halloween and Samhain. And then along came Boeing. They have out a welcome package to St Louis employees including a Boeing pin. A lot seemed to end up in the car park. The names live on a bit though The call sign for the X-32 at flight test was Phantom 1 (may not be the best inheritance for the wonderful F4) and the St Louis advanced projects is the Phantom Works Alan Egilman, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 9, 2022 Share #38 Posted October 9, 2022 I knew the St Louis facility was the Phantom Works. Nice way to commemorate the jet. Luckily, there are a number of preserved Phantoms around the US. The one we got at McGuire is a MiG killer; I think USAF wanted to preserve them, rather than expending those as drones for missile testing. And a town near that base got a Thunderbird F-4. Boeing has some good planes, just not any fighters in a long time. Calling an Eagle a Boeing product my be technically true, but Micky D designed and built the bulk of them. I got to pick up new, factory fresh Phantoms, with one or two hours in the log book. Delivered one to the Shah, back in 75. Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share #39 Posted October 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Canute said: Boeing has some good planes, just not any fighters in a long time. Calling an Eagle a Boeing product my be technically true, but Micky D designed and built the bulk of them. Yep. It goes around. There used to be a sign outside the St Louis AV-8B engineering building that said "Home of the Harrier" Used to upset the BAe people something rotten. Alan Canute, CDW, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 10, 2022 Share #40 Posted October 10, 2022 I'll bet. "noive o' some people", as Bugs Bunny would say. 😉 Edwardkenway, king derelict, mtaylor and 2 others 1 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #41 Posted October 11, 2022 Apart from reflecting on the happy days in aviation I actually have been doing a bit on the Westerflug. I air brushed the light grey paint onto the upper half of the model and had a bit of an unexpected result. The paint went on well but maybe because of the addition of too much thinner or because the panel lines are a bit deep the panel lines came through in the black primer even after two light coats of grey. I was trying to vary the depth of colour across the wings to make the aircraft look a bit used. I suspect the addition of the blue violet leopard spots will pretty much make it worthless. So I seem to have got the panel lines for free. I masked up and sprayed the matt black on the underside and completely forgot to take photos. It came out quite nicely and needed very little touch up. The wheel wells were busied up with some plastic rod hydraulic tubes and brake lines on the gear legs. I forgot those photos too. Then it was time for the scary bit - the leopard spots. I trialed sponge pieces and tried to make a cardboard mask and didn't like the results on a few test pieces, Eventually I settled on using a cotton bud with just the tip wetted with paint and then the excess dabbed off. I found it harder than it seemed to try to get a random pattern but I found that working the dabs over in about four layers got something that I think is acceptable. Possibly the spots are too big but I think teh overall look is okay. A gloss coat was added and the decals went on very nicely. The naughty insignia on the tailfin was a nice two piece decal that was easy to line up I put the rotors on - and they spin - although twiddling by anyone else is banned, The canopy has been masked and painted. Some basic touch up to follow The kit instructions list a raft of Mig weathering products but I'm at a bit of a loss to know whether it really makes much sense. The engine exhaust are in the matt black part of the paint scheme so sooting is not going to show. I've added a bit of bare metal around the wheel wells and gear but I don't see much scope beyond that. Any thoughts would be very welcome. Thanks for all the interesting input and the likes and for stopping by. Better photos tomorrow I hope Alan yvesvidal, Ian_Grant, Landlubber Mike and 11 others 6 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted October 11, 2022 Share #42 Posted October 11, 2022 Wow, that’s eye popping Alan. Camo looks great as does the entire model. Very interesting conversation piece of aviation history. Canute, Old Collingwood, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 11, 2022 Share #43 Posted October 11, 2022 Alan, I think soot would be appropriate in the exhaust. You could dust Pan Pastel chalks for that. The paint scheme turned out well. That's a pretty standard night fighter scheme with Lichtblau over Schwarz with Grauviolett mottling. 👍 Jack12477, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #44 Posted October 11, 2022 Thank you very much Craig. Much appreciated. I think its given me a bit of confidence to try another aircraft soon. This is a great kit for fit and detail. Their interpretation of the concept is quite good. It would be interesting to know if it was ever expected to make a conventional take off. Once the tail comes up those rotors get very close to the ground. Alan Egilman, Edwardkenway, Jack12477 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #45 Posted October 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Canute said: Alan, I think soot would be appropriate in the exhaust. You could dust Pan Pastel chalks for that. The paint scheme turned out well. That's a pretty standard night fighter scheme with Lichtblau over Schwarz with Grauviolett mottling. 👍 Thanks very much Ken I'll try some sooting while I'm finishing the details. Alan Edwardkenway, Egilman, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 11, 2022 Share #46 Posted October 11, 2022 That is truly a one of kind model it will draw attention. Beautifully done. Old Collingwood, Canute, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #47 Posted October 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, mtaylor said: That is truly a one of kind model it will draw attention. Beautifully done. Thank you very much Mark. Maybe I need to build a V-22 to park next to it Alan Edwardkenway, Jack12477, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 11, 2022 Share #48 Posted October 11, 2022 Splendid work mate. OC. Edwardkenway, Canute, Egilman and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted October 11, 2022 Share #49 Posted October 11, 2022 What an interesting subject Alan! Great job on the camo too - this is really cool, certainly a conversation starter! Egilman, Edwardkenway, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted October 11, 2022 Share #50 Posted October 11, 2022 Cool looking contraption🙂. I love the camo paint job! Very nicely done Alan. Egilman, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #51 Posted October 11, 2022 22 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: Splendid work mate. OC. Thanks a lot OC. There are a lot of good ideas that I learnt from this site in the model Alan Old Collingwood, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #52 Posted October 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Landlubber Mike said: What an interesting subject Alan! Great job on the camo too - this is really cool, certainly a conversation starter! Thank you so much Mike. I was very nervous about the camo. Now I can dust off the Me262 kit. Its definitely an interesting subject. A STOVL collection would be an interesting project with this at one end and the F-35B at the other. So many models out there Alan Landlubber Mike, Canute, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 11, 2022 Author Share #53 Posted October 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Edwardkenway said: Cool looking contraption🙂. I love the camo paint job! Very nicely done Alan. Thank you Edward. It was a lot of fun to build Alan Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share #54 Posted October 12, 2022 I added the wheel well doors and the canopy after a dip in clear coat to get rid of the scratches. I used some Mig streaking wash to add a bit of leaking oil from the gearboxes at the wing tips. Some sooting around the exhausts and I think this one is finished. Photos aren't much better. I need to work on the lighting but at least the canopy is in place. Thank you for all the kind comments and the Likes and for stopping by. Alan ccoyle, Jack12477, lmagna and 12 others 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 12, 2022 Share #55 Posted October 12, 2022 Would love to see you do a Harrier to go with your scheme. OC. Egilman, Landlubber Mike, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 12, 2022 Share #56 Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 5:57 PM, king derelict said: Thank you very much Mark. Maybe I need to build a V-22 to park next to it Alan A V-22 would be bit of icing on the cake. Egilman, Jack12477, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share #57 Posted October 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: Would love to see you do a Harrier to go with your scheme. OC. I have a real affection for the Harriers. I spent five exciting years supporting the AV-8B, GR7 and Sea Harrier when accident and maintenance issues were getting us a lot of unwanted attention. It was great project to work on. The USMC really wanted to keep the aircraft viable and the airframer, engine company and customers all really pulled together. I would really like to do a Sea Harrier, GR7 and AV-8B. Alan Landlubber Mike, Egilman, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king derelict Posted October 12, 2022 Author Share #58 Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, mtaylor said: A V-22 would be bit of icing on the cake. So many kits - so little time. 🙂 I contemplate building "my" STOVL birds. I have the X-32B, F-35B (Green Knights) I need to add the Harriers and the V-22 Alan mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egilman Posted October 12, 2022 Share #59 Posted October 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, king derelict said: So many kits - so little time. 🙂 I contemplate building "my" STOVL birds. I have the X-32B, F-35B (Green Knights) I need to add the Harriers and the V-22 Alan You could also acquire a Glencoe #05201 which is the McDonnell XV-1 convertiplane... In a yummy 1/32nd scale, price looks quite reasonable as well... We could do a dual build on her.... {chuckle} she would be perfect for the Rub-n-Buff treatment.... This one is mine... they are not hard to find and are still reasonably priced... Or perhaps a Bell XV-3 Convertiplane.... can't get anymore STOL that these... I just acquired one myself, there are several still available but they are becoming hard to find so the prices are going up.... It's only 1/43rd scale so it won't fit my collection unless I upscale her... I've got lots of projects as well, just not enough time for them all... {chuckle} EG Edited October 12, 2022 by Egilman mtaylor, king derelict, GrandpaPhil and 6 others 9 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted October 12, 2022 Share #60 Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, king derelict said: I have a real affection for the Harriers. I spent five exciting years supporting the AV-8B, GR7 and Sea Harrier when accident and maintenance issues were getting us a lot of unwanted attention. It was great project to work on. The USMC really wanted to keep the aircraft viable and the airframer, engine company and customers all really pulled together. I would really like to do a Sea Harrier, GR7 and AV-8B. Alan A very underated Jet with so much style, Kinetic do some really nice 1/48 kits of Harriers and I think Hasegawa do some AV-8 kits. OC. Canute, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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