The Mayflower by Knocklouder- FINISHED - Amati - 1:60

[David Lester]

All the best Bob!

[AJohnson]

Good luck Bob and get well soon. 

[Knocklouder]

Thanks so much everyone  😊.  Heart felt.

 My apologies for rambling on about my situation  but it kinda makes you gulp a few times when the Dr. tells you what you got and what happens  next. I can only say I have been heavily medicated  and plead the 5th lol.

  So with that out of the way let's tie up some loose ends. 

The first picture shows all the shrouds installed but needs tieing.  After teing CMSI gave me the ok to move on to ratlines yeppiy, I think he is being kind to many mistakes  but for me it's passable. 

Trying to figure out my next steps  I thought I would have a look at the upper shrouds and deadeyes  Holy I thought regularl deadeyes were small look at these they are only 5mm wide  lol not today to much to figure out. I am going start the ratlines. 

I broke the Buttafuori or outrigger off the stren but it's wood so I can fix or replace we will see.

 As I look apon my ship it really looks kinda bare, just the ship boat that's all. So I put the word out to buddy @Gabek and he might get me some figures to help fill it in. 

I hope the prices for the figures is the same as last time. 25 lbs potato, 25 lbs tomatoes, corn depends on the quality lol. He really does great work, he made my stove and cannons for the Pegasus. And I could not be happier.  Thanks Gabek 😊. 

 So this is how she looks today.

Ok till next time. Off to do rat lines, how does that song go oh ya 99 ratlines on the wall  99 ratlines on the wall. lol 😆 😂 

Bob M.

 

 

 

Edited March 23 by Knocklouder
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[Paul Le Wol]

Good stuff Bob! Very happy to see that you’re back on track.

[Keith Black]

 Bob, your Mayflower is a peach, she's beautiful. You've come a long way and it's been a pleasure to watch. 

[Baker]

Nice work. 

Only 99 ratlines to do...? Haha  😉

[Knocklouder]

⁰Thank you very much everyone for the likes and comments 😀  Well it seems like my head still not

in the game but fixing my mistakes is part of the fun .lol.

In my haste to get started on the ratlines, I am half way up the Mizzen mast 

When I reliesed that the shrouds were tied on wrong at the top. You guessed it, one cut with the scaple blade and she came down.I only wanted to cut one rope. So this is what I came up with, a rope ladder.lol looks fine to me. You can see why I stoped  the Pegasus build lol, rigging skills are not ready for it.

 Lol  Let's move on too the Main mast . At first glance I thought ok. But just noticed the channels are on backwards.  

The bigger end should be at the back I hope this doesn't make too much of a difference to the shrouds  and ratlines  we will see , it is to far along to turn back now. I will just have to mark it down as "on the next build I will do better".lol

I am going to add shear poles , The plan doesn't  call for them but I like the way  they  look  and it helps straighten things out as well. So I will lash this one on and do some more ratlines.  @Baker Patrick the song 99 ratlines on the wall  is on auto loop it goes on forever  and ever. Lol I can't stop signing it. And wonder how many crew members  hum this tune lol.

So lots of ratlines to do , I am in my happy place. Lol. Very glad there is no actual plan for the Mayflower because it could have been built this way lol but most likely NOT lol.       It's moving along well, tons of errors but live able.  It's all practice  now  and practice makes perfect  they say. Looks like I will need a lot more practice lol  😆 😂  

 

Bob M.

 

Edited March 26 by Knocklouder
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[Glen McGuire]

Adding the shear poles is a nice touch!  

[John Ruy]

Good progress Bob… You will be ready for Pegasus, before you know it. Nice work. 🍻 

[LCdr Dave]

Looking great! I too, have some errors that I am hoping will get buried in the mass of detail thrown at the viewer. LOL. 

 

Dave

[Knocklouder]

Well putting the channels on backwards does seem to pose a problem.  I need to put two eyebolts  and some rigging for the mast , time will tell but I will have to come up with some thing. Lol.

You can see how much room there is at the front. Oh well at least I made small steps on the last of the deadeyes.  Lol

These tiny deadeyes are almost impossible for neanderthals. And thee right hand shakes too,  lol. But I am happy with it.  Ok so I just have to finish the rat lines on the main mast then on to the foremast. 

I wished I had not cut those shrouds  but what can you do . Thanks everyone  for saying my ladder looks good.  You are too kind.lol The First Mate  likes  it , then I told her what I did different.   S he says no one will know if you don't say anything about it lol.  Humming  a tune lol           9 

Bob M.

Edited March 26 by Knocklouder
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[Knocklouder]

Today I finished the ratlines on the main mast, starboard side. C.  Marvin  says that I am a little rusty , but after a dozen or so Clove hitchs  they were rolling off my tweezers. Lol.

I think I discovered why I like ratlines, I think it's because  if I am doing ratlines  that means the shrouds and deadeyes are done and installed lol. Well at least I only have 9 more upper shrouds to do . They are very small  but esay to do. And they're  only 9 left  to do lol. CMSI has told me to straight up the deadeyes on the  foremast, and get those anchors on  as well. Chop chop. 

  I am hoping to get this ship done by mid July, it will be 3 years that I have terrorized  MSW, lol . I know I have way to much fun building  models, and most definitely  not the way it should be done but they are starting to look like ships ha ha . 

  Now I wished I never got so excited  when I finished my Santa Maria  and bought 7 more ship that I thought I like to build. I still can't convince the First Mate  😪 to let me buy a Vanguard model, I told her the price to get a fully deck out Indy shipped here and in Canadain funds lol. 

  I can not repeat what she said lol. 

On to the fore mast. Then the starboard side will be done.

 With Easter coming up and  medical updates, just to set my next surgery, so it may be awhile,  right after Easter   I  am knot sure how much I will get done.  I will update the log after the foremast is done. 

Thanks for stopping by  looking at my Mayflower, look but don't try copying my historical correct Mayflower  lol I may have changed a few things here and there lol.😅

Take care my friends, 

Bob M.

 

 

Edited March 29 by Knocklouder
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[LCdr Dave]

That is looking great! You are whipping off those rat lines like nobody’s business. 
Dave

[Knocklouder]

Thanks Dave, I learnt how to tie ratlines on  @Katsumoto log for his Santa Maria.  I was floored by his skill. And he took the time to show how to make shrouds and deadeyes, and most of all he help me with ratlines.  Thanks again  Katsumoto.  It's worth the trip to go look at his log, gave me great idea on rigging.  

Bob M..99

Edited March 29 by Knocklouder

[Bryan Woods]

Bob, I’ve been scanning your photos, since I have little knowledge of nautical part names, it’s like finding Waldo:-) Everything looks great! You’re counting how many rat lines to got to do? Are you forgetting you have a lifetime of them to do:-)

[Knocklouder]

Happy Easter  everyone. 

Hey @Bryan Woods I know what you mean  there is just too much terminologies  to learn and if it were not for spell check I wouldn't know how to spell terminologies  lol.

 I got a little  time today so I decided to show you all  how I make my rat lines. There are many ways to do this and people have different types  . This is how it works for me.

Rat lines  one of my likes about modeling. 

Captain Marvin says " this I got to see" lol 

Frist thing is make a loop over the shroud and under and grab it with my  neanderthal fingers  then pull tight then over and through. 

 Pull all this tight then make sure it in the right place, and glue it on  Just the frist one gets glued  then you make the rest of the row then glue the last one after you have accurately  measured it in place. 

I was told not to glue every single Clove hitch  just the first and last it keeps your shrouds and ratlines from becoming to stiff. So that's what  I do lol.

Then just cut the ends off and straight tin  out the line. And then move on to the next one.

And you just keep going till you get to the top.  All this I learnt from  MSW logs and having someone post a picture  so I can see how  they did it. 

 I have lots of ratlines to keep me happy just on this ship. And I have so many to look forward to on the Pegasus lol.  

 I can't thank everyone enough for helping  me along , and I like the way my models look, and can sea were I need to improve too lol.

 Hope this help someone else to make the light switch come on lol. Ok

 Many ratlines to go so we shell see you when we can .          

Bob M. 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 1 by Knocklouder
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[Keith Black]

 Happy Easter, Bob. Great job on the rats. 

[Knocklouder]

Well I am keeping a log on all who I have to Thank. Tieing ratlines keeps my mined off things. It seems I have more ratlines than mine  lol.

This morning  I finished up to crows nest 

then made the upper shrouds and deadeyes. 

I believe  they went ok. I given myself some  slack because this side will not show in the display case. 

CMSI  says the middle deadeye is to short. Glad this is the practice  side lol. On to the display side, or port side. 

Well on we go to the display side  lol. No more  short cuts. We'll maybe just a little  around the Mizzen mast lol.

  This Mayflower  Amati  model is alot  of fun. It has great wood, and you don't really need to add anything.  Unlike another  one I am doing you  have to replace what's in the kit, so it looks half decent, and it's a long list. You pay enough for the kit and then you have to decide which way you want to make it because  they don't send enough parts they say so right in the manual.  Was not impressed.  I told all  this to the First  Mate, she said sorry for my troubles  but I still Can't  buy a Vanguard model, then she played a little  tiny air fiddle. LOL. 

So now I have about 340 Clove hitches to tie I am in my happy  place. So happy I might buy myself  a early  Christmas  present. Lol 😆  

 Thanks all my friends.  I need to tie some ratlines  lol.

Bob M 

 

 

[Glen McGuire]

It's a shame you killed all those rats in your shop last month.  Maybe they could've helped with the ratlines!  🙄  

[Baker]

9 hours ago, Knocklouder said:

I finished up to crows nest

Nice work 👍

Mast top, not crows nest 😇.

 

[LCdr Dave]

Looking great Bob!

Dave

[Knocklouder]

108 clove hitches  to go . I have done the foremast and main mast up to the mast top on each. Going to do the Mizzen mast soon.

 I have to go help the daughter paint her house this weekend, so not much will get done , but at least I will have a 108 clove hitches for me when I return. 

 

 I will make the sails next week, hopefully even get a few on, we will see.

 Thanks for looking and helping. 

Bob M

 

 

[John Ruy]

She looks Great, Bob. Nice work…

[HardeeHarHar]

Yes indeed, she is looking good.  Even Captain Marvin must be impressed by now.  We should set up a GoFundMe site with all proceeds going towards your purchase of a Vanguard Model.  😃

[kirill4]

Good day,

Dear Bob,

She Looks very nice,  it is very accurate job!, I like it very much !!!

However I have some doubts/remarks regarding thickness of the stays and other standing riggings proportional rigging ... how did You calculate them? Thickness of the standing rigging? It shouldn't be the same as thickness of the shrouds?

Main stay is the biggest one on the vessel ,exept perhabs anchor rope , all other standing riggings should be proportional less in sizes.

There are a few perfect  exell tabels , free download,  easy to calculate thickness of all standing and running riggings depends on diam. Of main mast...

Another question - securing/ lashing of the boat on deck and how it is positionedcon deck , is a little be doubdfull how You made it, it should be placed upside down from current position and lashing should be passed from side to side, but not crossed  from side to side as You shown...It never be done like this on the vessel :)... I don't know why many times we could see this wrong way of securing boat on deck made by our colleques ... it is absolutely wrong way to do it like this:)

I noted spaces between deadeyes looks too short... norm it should be spaced approx 2-3 -or even 4 times of  deadeyes diam... all those small but devil important details very nicely and clear explained in R.C.Anderson book of 17th vessels  rigging... do You have it under your hand? If not,  I would be strongly advised to download this priceless book , there is all and even more, we need for building galleon models rigging and models of 17th century ships rigging..

I meant, regarding all said above, it is matter if we would like to make some historic accurate job and make some improvents to the kit we are working with, but it is just my private point of vew, and if You don't agree and have your ownn ideas how things should be performed,  just discard all I said above

Wish all the best!

Kirill

Edited April 10 by kirill4

[kirill4]

May be You already have it, but just for the case, there is great  and just briliant book about MF replica , written by its author with a lot of very important information including rigging questions as well...

[Knocklouder]

On 4/5/2024 at 9:29 AM, HardeeHarHar said:

Yes indeed, she is looking good.  Even Captain Marvin must be impressed by now.  We should set up a GoFundMe site with all proceeds going towards your purchase of a Vanguard Model.  😃

@HardeeHarHar Brian thanks so much, But I am sure there is someone more deserving, but I have been eyeing  Vanguard, Dutchess of Kensington, that one looks  great  lol.  As for Captain Marvin  

He is not to impressed by my ladder addition, but a Stow away says it looks good from here and the ladder was easy to use

krill4  thanks for liking my ship, yes your right I am following the plans . My dead eye look good to me just like the plan says. @krill4 . Buying this book wont help, I cant read lol. But thank you.

It is unbelievable how much work there is on Just this part of the plan  wow  But I learnt alot for the next ship .

 So now , got to figure the next step. Rigging is  coming along, parts are tuff because the plan only says rope. Not what size or color.  The one place they make a difference  is the instructions say black rope lol. I will figure it out  lol. 

 So I am straining with coffee, my sails, the yards are made. Bitts are ready to go just have to put it all together.  

 

So time to hang the yards, and shape the sails for that wind look . 

 Got a few Stow aways from the Darkkar  but Captain Marvin Got them to leave. Last I saw of them they stole the Pegasus boat and they were headed home lol. 

A few more pictures of Captain Marvin in action lol. Latter my friends, Still having way to much fun making models lol But thanks all for your help and thoughts.  I got some ruff days ahead but the  Captain  will keep me in shape lol. Thanks everyone, on to the sails lol 

 

 

Edited April 12 by Knocklouder
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[John Ruy]

Nice progress Bob! Steady as she goes. 
 

Cheers 🍻 

[LCdr Dave]

Bob, I think your ship looks great. 
Cheers,

Dave

[Knocklouder]

Thanks so much for the likes.  I just had to pin up the sail the peek. Aawww she going to be grand. Lol.

  Making the sails is time consuming  but great fun.   I just started them so it will be a bit. I going to use GAC 400 to  stiffen the sails, a tip of the hat to @mrcc for pointing to it. It great stuff I love it. It does what I want  😌. 

 Sew back to the sails. I get to sew my own sail, the First Mate  is away for awhile.  So Neanderthal sewing 101. 

 This is a great hobby . I still am in awe  about how much fun this is.  I for one can't thank NRG/MSW  enough for helping me.  I wanted to learn how  it was done. I have been trying to learn how to build ships right ever since  lol 😆  Going to make some sails. Then RIGGING.  😆 

There is only six sails, how long can that take lol. Thanks again everyone. 

Bob M.

Edited April 13 by Knocklouder
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