Sjors Posted January 20, 2016 Author #1201 Posted January 20, 2016 Sam, you make me smile....... "As if we expected any less....." Are you sure you are looking at my build ??? Sjors mtaylor, GLakie, src and 1 other 4 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Ulises Victoria Posted January 20, 2016 #1202 Posted January 20, 2016 Sjors: I absolutely concur with Sam. Best wishes, my friend! Piet, src, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
Sjors Posted January 20, 2016 Author #1203 Posted January 20, 2016 Thanks Ulises !!!!! Sjors GLakie, Piet and mtaylor 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Sjors Posted January 25, 2016 Author #1204 Posted January 25, 2016 The masts are complete ! Make all the platforms, painted, rope around it, blocks on it, deadeyes in place,and more of that funny stuff. Bowsprit also complete and on it. And of course everything is dry fit as far that it is possible. Also make the catheads ( forget that totally !! ) Next thing to do a few things that I forget on the hull and stern . The I will start making the shrouds. I know, I have to put the hammock braces and netting on it. I will do that later because I let the netting white. And I'm afraid that they are dirty when i put them on at this moment. And I make the hammock netting on the table and will place them in one piece....... So Piet, you see that I have done a little bit more. I have to work for a living and not retired yet ! That will take 7 years and 9 months from now...... Sjors gjdale, coxswain, gieb8688 and 23 others 26 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Ulises Victoria Posted January 25, 2016 #1205 Posted January 25, 2016 As usual Sjors. I can not say something that have not said before... Simply outstanding. Best regards, my friend. Piet, mtaylor, GLakie and 2 others 5 Quote There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT. Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina. Last finished projects: Royal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90; Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models. So much to build, so little time!
JanV Posted January 25, 2016 #1206 Posted January 25, 2016 Sjors, now the "nicest" job starts with the rigging Sjors, mtaylor, Angarfather and 2 others 5 Quote Jan V. current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart, previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard
riverboat Posted January 25, 2016 #1207 Posted January 25, 2016 Looks like you've been real busy...... She's looking real good Sjors, .... like the shelf too!! Frank Piet, Sjors, edmay and 2 others 5 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk)
Burroak Posted January 25, 2016 #1208 Posted January 25, 2016 Sjors your ship is magnificent. Great job as usual Greg H. GLakie, Piet, Sjors and 1 other 4 Quote GREG H.
Angarfather Posted January 25, 2016 #1209 Posted January 25, 2016 Hello Sjors! Nice work, and great progress in modelling the Aga. The goal? HMS Agamemnon on her place. Cheers Hartmut Piet, popeye the sailor, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
betamale Posted January 25, 2016 #1210 Posted January 25, 2016 Beautiful build Sjors. I need to study your posts closer. GLakie, edmay, Sjors and 3 others 6 Quote
mtaylor Posted January 25, 2016 #1211 Posted January 25, 2016 Lovely work, Sjors. She has her teeth and now gets her sails. texxn5, edmay, Sjors and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
popeye the sailor Posted January 26, 2016 #1212 Posted January 26, 2016 nice progress Sjors! masts are looking excellent!.....time to call the spider brigade! texxn5, edmay, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Piet Posted January 26, 2016 #1213 Posted January 26, 2016 Nice looking masts Sjors! Shrouds and - - - drum role please - - - rat lines!!! Yeah Sjors, 7 years and 9 month, it'll go fast, trust me. But you'll still be a young man at that time. I was already 75 when I retired. Be good, stay healthy and say hi to Anja, we miss her Halve Maan. Cheers, GLakie, Sjors, edmay and 2 others 5 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
rafine Posted January 26, 2016 #1214 Posted January 26, 2016 That looks just great Sjors. I'm really looking forward to your rigging. BTW, much as I enjoy retirement, there is still a lot to be said for making money. Bob texxn5, GLakie, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Sjors Posted January 26, 2016 Author #1215 Posted January 26, 2016 Thank you all for your comment !!!! And the likes @ Ulises, You can not say it enough @ Jan, Yep, almost rigging time I hope that my drawings for that are better then those from OcCre ! @ Frank, Thanks but that shelf is not the final place for her when she is finished. There is another shelf on the other side of the room and that will be her place. @ Greg, Thank you very much !! @ Crackers Thank you but can you make it 70 % instead of 100 % ???? @ Harmut, Thank you Nice picture between the leaves of your Aggy !!!!! You can use that as a screensaver !! @ Betamale, Welcome on board !!! Take your time to read everything.....you will need it ! @ Mark, Thanks. She has her teeth but not her sails....there are no sails ...... @ Popeye, The rigging spiders are all ready running in the workshop. They can not wait till I start rigging but they have to ! First work.... @ Piet, Yep, the fun begins ! For the Halve Maan of Anja you can wait for a very long time..... Unfortunately when we are moving a few months ago, there was a misunderstanding with one of the guy's who help us. We had a few boxes that has to go to the new home but accidentally the box with the Halve Moon was on the wrong side of the room..... You can guess what happened........ @ Bob, Thanks. We will see how the rigging goes. I know how to tie ratlines....done a few a while back I want to make money but I don't want to work for it Illegal maybe ???????? Sjors edmay, Piet, Ulises Victoria and 3 others 6 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Moonbug Posted January 26, 2016 #1216 Posted January 26, 2016 Great work Sjors - she's a beauty with the timbers up! - Bug Sjors, GLakie, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard
Piet Posted January 28, 2016 #1217 Posted January 28, 2016 Oh Noooooo !!!! That made me really sad. So sorry to hear that her beautiful Halve Maan went to the breakers. I hope she'll be getting another kit to complete. My condolences. Cheers, GLakie, texxn5 and mtaylor 3 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
texxn5 Posted January 28, 2016 #1218 Posted January 28, 2016 Hello my friend, I am sorry I neglected following your log and got involved in my Morgan. I am finished now and can devote time to catching up with my friends. I am sorry to hear about Anja's loss...my deepest regrets. You Aggy is amazing and I would expect nothing else. Keep it up and someday retirement will be here. Just ask Piet...my other crazy Dutchman friend...lol to both of you. Take care my friend and give Anja a hug! John GLakie, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com
mtaylor Posted January 28, 2016 #1219 Posted January 28, 2016 Rats... I missed that about the Halve Moon. I'm sorry to hear it. I hope Anja will think about another model as she has a talent for these ships. GLakie and Piet 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
gjdale Posted January 28, 2016 #1220 Posted January 28, 2016 Sorry to hear about the Half Moon, Sjors, but do I recall correctly that Anja has a scratch build Hannah package waiting in the wings? Could be just the excuse needed to start on it! mtaylor, GLakie and Piet 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Sjors Posted January 29, 2016 Author #1221 Posted January 29, 2016 Ok, No update , only a answer to the things that has been said about the Half Moon...... She will NOT make a new model again..... Anja is to busy with work and other things..... Maybe somewhere in the future but not at this moment . The Hannah is still in the box and she will stay there for a long time. When I have the feeling that I'm capabel enough to make her I will do it. But first a few other projects....... That brings me to the next question. I'm almost ready to start the rigging of my Aggy. What should I do first.... Shrouds or stay's ? And when I make the shrouds , what's the best way. Foremast and then to the back or Mizzenmast and working to the front ????? Let me know what you are thinking. Sjors GLakie, mtaylor, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
GLakie Posted January 29, 2016 #1222 Posted January 29, 2016 From what I've observed by following other builds Sjors, is usually they do the shrouds first, and do them "off" the ship until they're all done. Sorry I can't be of much more help than that. mtaylor and Piet 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
rafine Posted January 29, 2016 #1223 Posted January 29, 2016 Sjors, I know that everyone has a way that they think best, but for whatever it's worth, my way is this: I do the mizzen shrouds first, then the mizzen stays, then the main shrouds, the main stays, the fore shrouds and lastly, the fore stays. I have found that moving from the mizzen forward gives better and easier access to the stays than working the other way. On the lower masts, the stays lay over the shrouds at the masthead and should be done after the shrouds. I'm sure that you will get other opinions. Bob Beef Wellington, Piet, gjdale and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Beef Wellington Posted January 29, 2016 #1224 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Sjors - As you know, I'm far from the experienced hand here....but I'd start with the shrouds. And I took the same approach as Bob... Edited January 29, 2016 by Beef Wellington Sjors, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
Angarfather Posted January 29, 2016 #1225 Posted January 29, 2016 Hello Sjors, I work in the same way as Bob. Regards Hartmut Piet, Sjors, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
gjdale Posted January 29, 2016 #1226 Posted January 29, 2016 I'm with Bob on this one too, Sjors Sjors, mtaylor, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
dafi Posted January 29, 2016 #1227 Posted January 29, 2016 (edited) Easy ;-) As the stays lay over the shrouds, the shrouds come first ... ... but after the pendants! XXXDAn Edited January 29, 2016 by dafi mtaylor, GLakie, rafine and 2 others 5 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html
Sjors Posted January 30, 2016 Author #1228 Posted January 30, 2016 Thank you all very much !!! Bob, I will do it your way and if it is not working...........I'll be on your door step Dafi....first the pendants....then the shrouds and then the stay's !!!! Next question...... The first shroud has to be totally ( how do you call it ) seizing ?????????? The rest of the shrouds only to the caterpillars ???? Is this making sense ???????? It looks if I 'm rigging for the first time Sjors rafine, GLakie, src and 3 others 6 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Beef Wellington Posted January 30, 2016 #1229 Posted January 30, 2016 Do you mean 'served' rather than seized? The foremost shroud was served to help prevent chaffing, although I'm not sure if this was also done on the mizzen. GLakie, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
Sjors Posted January 30, 2016 Author #1230 Posted January 30, 2016 Yes Jason, I'm meaning served...... I have take a look at the book Rigging period ship models by Lennarth Petersson and from what I can see is that the first shroud is served. I have the book in front of me now and you are right, not the first shroud on the mizzen...... I can see it on the mainmast and foremast I know that I have make a few mistakes on the San Ildefonso, I want to avoid that. Now I'm also seeing that I start on the right side with the first pair and go to the left. Sjors Beef Wellington, trippwj, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
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