BANYAN Posted July 9, 2013 Share #241 Posted July 9, 2013 Hi Mark, I have been absent from the forum for quite a while on holiday. I have just had the pleasure of reading your updates (and significant life events ); great progress at your usual high standards. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 9, 2013 Share #242 Posted July 9, 2013 Thanks for the birthday wishes. Beer-o-clock, wine-o-clock, drink with an umbrella in it-o-clock... works for me today. Greg, actually I'm not counting those days at all... I'm counting the days until I can retire. Hmm.... I wanted to "like" all your posts, but I got this (direct quote from the error message) "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day".. strange... didn't know we could do that. Yes, I believe the limit is about 30 likes/24 hours. I surmise the likes/friends aspects come from the social media world which I avoid like the plague. It does have it's uses though ---- heck, I even like Sjors mtaylor and gjdale 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Salomone Posted July 9, 2013 Share #243 Posted July 9, 2013 Hello Mark, Finally, I found some time to start browsing some logs. First of all - WELL DONE - nice piece of timber work indeed. As I always say, I am not into period vessels. I once started off with the Billing's Wasa, and stopped half way through, as I would like to detail the interior. But I can surely recognise good work, and you Mark, are a master in the making. Secondly, I wish you a delayed Happy Birthday, and many happy returns and lots of ship modelling sessions. Quote Cheers Paul NEVER RETREAT - NEVER SURRENDER JUST DO IT YOUR WAY AND NEVER LOOK BACK Current Build: 1:72nd German WWII Heavy Battle Cruiser DKM Scharnhorst http://modelshipworld...1:72ndDKMScharnhorst/ Future Build Logs: German WWII Captured Flower Class Corvette. German WWII Armed Trawler. German WWII Aircraft Carrier - Graf Zeppelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share #244 Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks gentlemen. I hope to have a real update in the near future. Augie, You might be right. I managed to miss Myspace and am diligently avoiding Facebook. I do like the "like" button here though. popeye the sailor, Salty Sea Dog and augie 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 10, 2013 Share #245 Posted July 10, 2013 looking forward to the next pictures - your build log is worthy of my 1000 th post all the best mtaylor and augie 2 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #246 Posted July 27, 2013 Boy... am I ever slow. Life, work, and getting things set up to retire have all taken their toll. One of the first things I had to do was make a new zero tolerance insert for the table saw. The old plastic one finally gave up the ghost. So... after some fiddling with metal and plastic, I grabbed some scrap wood and had at it. Then it was back to cutting planks and planking. I have only one side and small part of that done. From the wale line up to the channel wale on the port side. Needs to have the channel wale added and then sand like crazy and finish opening and tidying up the gunports. Padeen, avsjerome2003, WackoWolf and 7 others 10 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted July 27, 2013 Share #247 Posted July 27, 2013 that's not your optical illusions.....that picture is right side up nice to see her above it jig line! it may look like a small step, but compared to all you've done so far......it's huge. planking's looking good, and looking forward in seeing more Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted July 27, 2013 Share #248 Posted July 27, 2013 Good to see you making progress again, Mark. The planking is looking good. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 27, 2013 Share #249 Posted July 27, 2013 Wow, thats looking great! /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted July 27, 2013 Share #250 Posted July 27, 2013 Mark, Well your finally getting there. She is looking Beautiful, glad to see things coming together for you. Keep the pictures coming. Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 27, 2013 Share #251 Posted July 27, 2013 Great to have you up and running again. Very nice indeed. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted July 27, 2013 Share #252 Posted July 27, 2013 Glad you've finally found some time for yourself in the shipyard Mark. She's looking great! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 27, 2013 Share #253 Posted July 27, 2013 just lovely, one day - im going to have a go at that, and if it only looks 1/2 as good as that ill be a happy wabbit Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share #254 Posted July 27, 2013 Thanks for the warm words. It's good to be able to spend some quality time in the shipyard. I've hit a bit of a dilemma.... chain wales, sheer strake, and gunport linings. The plans show the chain wale and by inference, the sheer strake as being contoured (red arrows). The photos of Hahn's build show them as being more of a square cross-section. Also, the pictures of the build show the gunports as being unlined (blue arrow). I've looked at other French ship models and I'm seeing a mixed bag here. No consistency. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Paul Salomone and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted July 28, 2013 Share #255 Posted July 28, 2013 Do you mean that the plan (pic 2) doesnt look like the photo (pic 1)? If so, they look right to me. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted July 28, 2013 Share #256 Posted July 28, 2013 Fantastic job Mark she looks great,it'll be a big day when you take her off the jig,Happy retirement and b/day,wish i could as well but not yet for me.Ron. mtaylor and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted July 28, 2013 Share #257 Posted July 28, 2013 Excellent planking work, Mark, she's looking great Regarding the sheer strakes/chain wales, I would personally go with the contoured shape shown on the plan since contemporary plans are sort of my "default reference", plus majority of contemporary models I've seen ( of mostly English ships unfortunately) show them contoured, and most importantly, I think they look cool that way : http://s3.amazonaws.com/magnoliasoft.imageweb/nmm/supersize/l2414-007.jpg Sorry I can't be of much help on the gunport linings, my references also show mixed pictures on this one mtaylor 1 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted July 28, 2013 Share #258 Posted July 28, 2013 Hi Mark, I'm inclined to agree with Aldo. Plus, if there is not a definitive reference, then "Captain's Choice" is automatically invoked! augie, captainbob and mtaylor 3 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share #259 Posted July 28, 2013 Thanks guys. Aldo, the pic shows a square section chain wale.... I think. And French ships had their differences.. <sigh> which is both wonderful and an aggrevation. It was pointed out to me here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3032-chain-wales-and-gunport-linings-french-ship-question/ That others have seen the same thing... sometimes square, sometimes profiled. I'm pretty much decided on square-ish instead of carved for this wale. Meantime, back to sanding and squaring away the gunports.... rdsaplala and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted July 28, 2013 Share #260 Posted July 28, 2013 Looking very, very nice Mark. The nice thing with these variations on the French ships - it gives you a choice. If there's no concrete evidence in either direction, then I think you should follow the advice I've seen you give to others - you're the captain, it's your call. mtaylor and Padeen 2 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share #261 Posted July 28, 2013 Thanks Sherry for reminding me.... Caught by my own advice... Sjors, newbuilder101, rdsaplala and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted July 29, 2013 Share #262 Posted July 29, 2013 Yep, captain has the last decision. Ben mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #263 Posted July 30, 2013 Sanding, touch-up filling, and re-opening the gunports is just starting move along. I've hit it with 220 grit and I'll follow up with 320 and possibly 600 once the gunports are proper. I'm pretty happy with the planking so far. Photo is without flasha and colors look pretty close to what I see. hamilton, NAZGÛL, Ferit and 5 others 8 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted July 30, 2013 Share #264 Posted July 30, 2013 Mark the planking looks nice and tight. Michael mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 30, 2013 Share #265 Posted July 30, 2013 (edited) Mark - how much external frame work are you going to leave exposed - if any? Edited July 30, 2013 by Kevin mtaylor 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #266 Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks Michael. I'm pretty happy so far since this is first single-planked hull I've done (and first scratch). Kevin, She's going to be completely planked by Admiralty Directive. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafi Posted July 30, 2013 Share #267 Posted July 30, 2013 Great to see things moving!!!Love it, Daniel mtaylor 1 Quote To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted July 30, 2013 Share #268 Posted July 30, 2013 That planking looks very sweet Mark. It seems a shame to cover up ALL of that lovely framing, but one doesn't often get far in challenging Admiralty orders! mtaylor 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted July 30, 2013 Share #269 Posted July 30, 2013 Splendid planking work, Mark, the plank edges fit each other perfectly and I love the grain of the wood you're using mtaylor 1 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted July 30, 2013 Share #270 Posted July 30, 2013 Nice looking wood and very nice work. mtaylor 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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