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Kevin: Yes indeed very nice bits from Amati as well as vintage Sergal – and regarding Doris – beyond genius work – I’ve called her the Michelangelo of this hobby. Oh and thanks so much for following this log as well – you were more than kind with your comments on my Vasa log back in the day…. Robp125: So encouraging – thanks so much – Indeed a beautiful ship in its first iteration. SO appreciate your interest Ulises: The complete Amati kit can be purchased as a set or piece by piece. Got mine from: https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?WD=amati seas sovereign&PN=1831-Sovereign-of-the-Seas-Cast-Decoration-Set-A1831.html#SID=353 You can also buy the Amati plan sheets as well as the Flag sheet (their flag sheet is excellent) Ok Ulises you asked lol – for the 144 individual pieces by their part numbers I will send you a PM – If other members are interested let me know I will just copy and paste the item numbers on this log…… It will just be a sea of Amati part numbers with no reference to what the bits actually are - once the part # is copied and pasted to Cornwall (or other Amati retail provider) it with return with an image as well. PS: I tried ordering several fittings directly from Amati in Italy -the purchase was rejected in the USA - I needed to order from a retailer. Here is one last image of Amati bits FYI Here are images of Amati and Sergal flag sheets FYI: Amati - double adhesive sided Sergal Vintage Sergal after so many years in box looks perfect on both sides
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Ulises, IMO!!! toss the instructions - I also had big problems at the onset. If I might be so presumptuous - you will have much better luck if, at this stage, if you were to look at my log - and just follow my detailed lead - took me a while to figure it out - Also DON'T follow the instruction book for placement of the upper and lower canon templates IMO! - you would have to sort of guess where you just positioned those too small dummy cannon vertical anchoring wood bits, to cut the square openings for the canon openings.. Up to you, but for this part of the build - I knew it would cause me grief later on had I followed the Sergal booklet Oh can you imagine it also wants you to glue on all the gilded bits BEFORE even adding second planking hmmm??? Regards,
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Thanks for your interest in this ironic dilemma. From what I had read, Sergal some years back was sold, or went to new management for cost cutting measures. They then revised some of their products; one of which was their SotS. They “improved” the new release by including pre-scored decks, laser cut gratings, a build booklet as well as other pre-ready bits. Then, it was also decided to delete the expensive solid bronze castings with cheaper white metal electroplated substitutions. The resulting castings lost some details. I have no information regarding casting molds. That said the blister packs showing the exact location of the many 100s of castings is indeed excellent. Also solid wood pre-cut bits (carriages, deck vertical railings, etc), were replaced with laser cut non solid wood sheets. When I chose to build this one – having wanted to for many years – I hesitated after learning about the loss of casting details given, as well, the price point for this expensive kit. I then queried here at MSW and, as I had mentioned in my first post, found a seller who had a vintage kit available. I subsequently also received the current kit for Father’s Day in 020….. I am very satisfied with the solid bronze castings. Then adding to this silliness also purchased the still available Amati complete SotS castings set – those are really something. I will blend Amati and Sergal bronze decorative castings onto this project. PS: Amati diff. scale but for decorative bits not important.... Thanks for following along – bit too much text this time around lol Finishing this thread topic - a few more images, then back to build log....
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Hi, Minor update – still working on forward keel, beakshead and stem areas; adding details that have taken some time, and of course some areas don’t come out right on first attempt, or areas also have to be redone 😬 --- Thanks for dropping by, likes and any comments or suggestions…
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Ulises: big thanks so kind of you - you are a master builder it will be fun following your log. PS: the kit has "fit" issues with initial framing parts when locating pre-formed decks - also when adding the hull walles I did a lot of custom strengthening inside hull - did not post any of these issues in log - PM me at any time will be happy to assist E.J: as always thanks as well - Also when you get around to the SotS - any issues please don't be shy - We all learn and get better by sharing techniques with each other....
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I have both kits - this one (green box) is current kit packaging - Vintage kit had a blue box, and all metal bits were in packet trays. Current kit includes eight blister packs - along with excellent part locations images within blisters for actual bit locations. Also all plan sheets were 1:1 with vintage kit - the image looks to be reduced size sheets from curent kit based on how sheets are folded.
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Marc, Everytime I drop in I get even more amazed Wow! -hardly an in depth post - your write and get those lol
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Ulises, OK - glad you set up a log - I'm on board - Good luck. PS: The McKay book is excellent - though it has some critics that make good points, otherwise superb, and great plates within - very useful source. The Sergal instructions are IMO almost useless lol.......
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Ulises, Yes it has been a while indeed - she came out just beautiful - You were always a master with rigging - years ago you helped with my Vasa - Your example Vasa came very Perfect - So your next build will be the Sovereign - nice choice. I started this same kit last year (a Father's Day gift from my family) So I'm a bit ahead of you this time. I'm making a lot of changes from the "out-of-the-box" kit - Please drop by and take a few looks. I will follow your new build when you get started. Te veo luego mi amigo
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Very nice indeed, Lot's of fun following your log. You are also exploring historical accuracy - certainly helps that the Vasa is "alive". 👌 PS: are you planning to also include the needed tools for cleaning, loading and so on. I don't remembers seeing those bits on display at the museum.
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Ziggy, Just found your log on the right side-bar --- Very cool idea will follow along as well. Great start - boilers are great! PS: I'm sure that you know there are some awesome Titanic (super large) wrecked models on that site as well - This kind of work requires huge creativity - kudos to you....
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Hi all, Very minor -- almost back-to-back “fix” update As I was reworking the fix for the forecastle deck knightheads, grating and staircase framing, I came to the realization that my main deck gratings were so wrong – In retrospect I should have done the same type of framing as for the forecastle, and main deck near mainmast openings. Removed and attempted to “fix” main deck gratings - still not 100% but better.....here are some images. Thanks for looking in..... Cheers,
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Johann, I (we most certainly all have) learned SO much from following your beyond superlative work - no! art really - as always thanks for also posting superb build logs - I have attempted to emulate - well sort-of attempted to copy some of your work details in part of my current build - (many images from your work are in my files - yet to be attempted) That said, It's also been a wonderful way of trying to improve my work in this hobby - A big thank you And the pleasure of admiring your work is such a pleasure to the eyes and senses. Regards,
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Hello, Thanks so much for your likes (;-)) After some very good advice from E.J. – made some changes. Left off, his suggested, two broadside cannons. Then made the needed changes to the forecastle deck removing cathead holes just aft of mast. Added a cut for the lower halliard. Those catheads as I noted in an earlier post would have had no space to anchor to main deck given the inner two forward carriages. Instead decided upon halliard block; same as for main mast. And finished deck inner framing for grating and open area for stairs leading down. Kirill4 – had offered that very good advice along with some contemporary images of SotS’s foremast fitted that way (see post #69 – if interested) --thanks Kirill! Finished up installing and adding partial carriage riggings as well. All of this work will mostly be totally hidden from view, but that’s ok. I used the guns from the current kit, not from the vintage edition – only adding recoil rings Next up; upper hull sides and forward bulkhead timbers to mostly complete this area. It will be tempting to also add the many bronze decorative bits as well….and keel/stem work need completing as well,,,,,,, Regards,
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Kirill, Just found your log for this project WOW !!!!- -- will go back and visit - All the details are so perfect, sails, flags, fittings.............every part is so well thought out and executed. Beautiful indeed.
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Hi Mates, Thanks so much for your continued interest, and likes - so encouraging indeed. Work in progress update; used McKay as a guide. Did look at several awesome logs in the Scratch Build Projects, and what I did notice was that the really great forward stems were cut, and caulked from large single bits of wood, then properly scarphed together. (PS: I’ll never be that good - lol) Working from a kit, and wanting to add better forward keel detail (first attempt at this) created some conundrums. I had to, obviously, use thin “cover” pieces on each side of the kit provided keel to get the right looking details. Here are some images of how I worked this out so far after having cut cardboard patterns of one side.
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LFN, So glad that you have taken some inspiration from my cross-section of the same kit. And very, very kind of you to note as much in your log. I was also a member that very much enjoyed following your Santisima that was weathered to the point of being un-seaworthy haha You are also "aging" this project...I'm on-board and will follow along. Very good start indeed. Again thanks for mentioning my build. Cheers,
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Siggi, Just discovered your brilliant log - Wow! superlative work. Spent an hour going through - thoroughly enjoying every post and image. I saved some of your images to inspire me to attempt to add some of your brilliant details to my current project - certainly not close to your level of work, but it will be a good challenge. Again amazing work - oh yes and your lion - as has been said - "over-the-top" amazing Respectfully,
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One last thought - per you question how to fix lines that don't go to pins? cathead with rails and or blocks on deck - loop and knot the line leave extra per what would be needed for a specific line. Yes needle threader is also good - remember that line would double in width as you pull the threader out - then return to a single width - sometimes making the result too small and "out of scale" Didn't mean to take over this thread - but I learned all of this from other members (especially images) - helped me a lot with the Vasa. Regards,
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Patrick. Yes - very unfortunate indeed - Here are comparisons of one of the stern lanterns - this one being the large one that is attached to the poop deck Now working on patterns for keel - I can't believe that this took the entire morning - at least they are mirror images on each side. Will cut the wood bits this week...matching the bits perfectly will take time as well - enjoying this part of the project.
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Yes and no - a technique I use; at the tip of any line for about 1/4" or so, wet the end of the rope with Gorilla Gel CA - then wipe away the excess with a cloth (thumb and index finger) the result will be a very hard straight tip - easily inserted through the bottom of a pin rail - or anywhere else for that matter.
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Peter: As always thanks so much for your overly kind posts - thanks as well for following - PS: your current build is a jewel re: scuppers - no I have not drilled them through - I only painted the insides black - I will however add to the outside of the hull drains for those as well as drains for the gun decks, only as visual perspectives - On my list 👌 E.J., Brilliant suggestion!! Yes, I will do just as you suggest - yikes never occured to me - this way I can also install the four chase cannons - And you are also certainly right in regard to the overcrowding and recoil issues. Leaving two forward broadside ports empty is perfect!! big thanks Peter - thanks as well for your concurring thoughts regarding too many cannons - this will work out Just Fine!! Cheers Mates,
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