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Congrats on reaching this milestone, looking very nice Mike, especially mounted on her stand.
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Flag lockers are a great addition Mort, all looking very nice indeed.
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Time to clear away the cobwebs and dust from this buildlog and play a little catch-up. Have been grabbing a few moments here and there to on some items that aren't really that interesting, and especially mulling over the approach to take on a few things. The quarterdeck and forecastle decks are in place, this is a very large piece so these were cut into more manageable sections which works better for me, otherwise I find that the PVA glue has set too much by the time all surfaces have been glued up. Cutting sections at points where there is support from the beam underneath makes this a much more manageable exercise and allows the sheer of the deck to be maintained. Once installed, glue was forced into the gap at the edges of the deck to prevent any future flexing, and then filled and faired to get as smooth a run as possible. The stern fascia has also been finished with some interior planking and a preliminary coat of paint, a margin deck plank installed and the rear gun ports finished. The strips on the stern fascia were shaped by steaming longitudinally first, otherwise the two compound curves would make this very challenging. One feature that I've been obsessing over is the quarterdeck skylight. The kit provides a structure that reminds me a lot of a small greenhouse enclosure, and this is a feature that I found hard to find many suitable examples of on contemporary frigate models. The various Artois models show both an exaggerated grating or the 'greenhouse'. Somehow I mislaid some of the pieces so scratching something myself was always going to be a requirement. Like many features, this seems to be a transitionary period, moving from the skylight being an addition to a existing companionway (e.g. clerestory style top that is wider than long - the example BE put on his Pegasus being excellent example), to more modern structures that are longer than wide and form the more typical shape. Interestingly, some slightly later plans (e.g. the very slightly later Leda class) show this feature on the plans suggesting it being a more permanent or standardized feature, but none of the Artois plans show anything beyond a small coaming. In the end, I decided to take some inspiration from HMS Trincomalee, and build a structure that has side lights similar to the cleristory top, but with solid wood roof. In the main, the was driven by the fact that glass at this time period was still realistically only available in smaller panes, and that a solid top just seems a little more utilitarian and cost effective. Once that decision was made, I needed to figure out how to execute... Firstly, a very simple jig was made up with blocks the size of the needed glass panes, this would allow the narrow strip to be secured while being glued to what will be the lower part of the structure. The method of assembly required that at each end, a wider 2mm piece is needed to simulate what will be the corner structure. Once dried, the supports can be cut back to th e necessary height before removing from the jig. The upper structure can then be attached out of the jig either a strip for the side wall or a shaped 'end'. The end of the left and rigt supports are approx 1mm wide so that when joined with the sides the corner support will be of consistent dimension. When fully glued, the structure is stronger than I expected, but still clearly very delicate. The end pieces were cut back as close as possible flush to the last support with a knife, but the last effort had to be with a sanding stick. Clamping the structure between some ply offcuts allowed the ends to be carefully sanded relatively safely. The structure could then be assembled, lego blocks were used to keep everything as square as possible. Once fully cured, a rectangular section was inserted to introduce some additional strength (forgot to take a photo) before the side were carefully sanded back flush. A profile was introduced into some 1x1mm strip for the upper molding which was attached prior to installing the sloping roof pieces. Not finished yet, but this is sufficient to allow for some planning of the deck planking. And finally, the various coamings and capstan partners have been made up to give a sense for the layout. These items will be attached to the subdeck so deck planking will butt up against them as was actual practice which I suspect will prove to be a little challenging, but more to come on that hopefully. One compromise that I saw as being unavoidable is that the 3 hatchways directly aft of the capstan should taper slightly. In practice I believe that the battens in the gratings themselves would taper as well, but that is just not an option. Given that it would look very odd to my eye to taper the coamings but not the gratings, the decision was made to not taper. Don't think this will be noticeable, and a compromise I can happily accept.
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Loving the progress and especially the figures. I'd definitely be tempted to continue working with the Royal Watermen, a full compliment would be a really striking addition to enhance the model. Think if you can get a little more 'flounce' to the bottom of the jacket to differentiate from the breeches they'll look great.
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Looking at the picture of the barrel and the carriage, think your problem simply comes down to the supplied parts. The carriage looks a little big for the cannons provided which may be contributing to the problem you're seeing. The common consensus seems to be that the metal Amati carriages are not the most authentic. If you're set on keeping these items, my suggestion would be to add some additional wood quoins (on top of the simulated molded one) to raise the level of the rear of the barrel.
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I hope you enjoyed a "Dunnock's" Tea Cake while you were there (boom boom!..sorry couldn't resist). Yes, sadly Unicorn has seen better days, and rapidly approaching the point where her situation needs to change, either major work or dry docking, if she isn't to deteriorate beyond redemption (she's hogging badly). Despite her less than impressive condition, she is far more 'original' than her sister Trincomalee and an fascinating way to see the evolution of building techniques from the same design. I find it amazing that there isn't an AOTS Book on the Leda class, given the surviving evidence and likely modeling interest considering the historical significance. I think Chris Watton was/is contemplating a future kit design of this class, so hoping that does come to fruition. BTW - The roof which was installed shortly after her completion is also original, and is the only surviving example from when a ship was placed in ordinary - and so is somewhat almost as historically significant as the ship herself.
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I don't believe it! Well done indeed sir, you've done her proud and she's looking mighty fine. Really fine model Eamonn.
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
Beef Wellington replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Love the way all the details are coming together in such a detailed, authentic and harmonious way!- 993 replies
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Hi ECK, I always hate to make observations on other peoples work (but always hope people help identify my mistakes!) so forgive me, but the wale looks to be too wide. Hard to tell from the angles of the photo's, the top seems to sit abut right but the bottom extends lower than I would have expected which may result in the top of your coppering being too far down the hull so may be worth double checking.
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Great solution Rob. I think you state some very wise words, important to understand the various sheer lines that features that follow, either the sheer of the deck or the sheer of the wales.
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Have you truly been away? I think we all have periods when other activities are the focus. Keeping my eyes peeled for a new build log 🙂
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Nice progress David! Sure you've thought it through, I'd be tempted to simplyinstall another layer (or 2) of planking above. Given that these would terminate at the sternpost and below the waterline I suspect it would be very hard to see once sanded. I had to use a similar fix, albeit on the first planking.
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Glad to see you have started this BE, keel section is looking very nice. I've jumped back in myself and trying to figure out where I was a year ago...
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David - you can rest easy, there is plenty of historical latitude at this specific time period when these ships were designed and built, which was a great period of change to really do what you want. Built up bulwarks were the fashion, then moved back to open bulwarks, and then finally built up again. Armament wise, carronades gradually added to, and final replaced the quarterdeck and foc's'l cannon. Available plans are not consistent for specific ships, probably because of the factors above and depending on when they were drafted and what they represent (as designed, or built, or when in service).
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Photos look great. That could be an interesting way to go Mort, and obviously personal choice. Would you need to add or adjust any of the f'c's'l sdeck beams as these would be much more visible? Also meant to ask you, what did you use to simulate glass in your pics of the side galleries.
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Hi John, your Pickle is looking very nice. My suggestion would be to redo the mast, and instead of using a joining a separate section, just file down the dowel to the appropriate size. Aside from visually wanting the mast and topmast to be parallel, I suspect that this would be a potential area of weakness that may prove to be a problem when you come to rig the backstays.
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They are still used today as a command flag for officers of flag rank and for Commodores. As shown above, the flag for a Vice Admiral is reversed as the red spot (or 'ball') should be on the same side as the hoist. A Rear Admiral would have an additional ball in the quadrant below below, and an Admiral would have none (!). A Commodore would have a broad pennant (meaning 2 points) of the same design as above with a single ball.
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