mtaylor Posted November 19, 2015 Share #331 Posted November 19, 2015 Jesse, Testor's used to make a "wood" color that worked well as a base. Then with dry brushing you can some detail to give it a wood appearance. I haven't seen it but then again, I haven't been looking for it. Canute, Jack12477, JesseLee and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted November 19, 2015 Share #332 Posted November 19, 2015 Your wood simulation on the decorative trim looks very convincing! As far as I remember Chuck published once in his original Syren build log how he did the wood simulation with paint. There were several layers involved and I think he also used the Golden Oak wood stain as a "wash". Thomas Canute, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share #333 Posted November 19, 2015 Thanks Mark, I actually have a bottle of that. Thanks Thomas, hadn't thought about using the stain as a wash. I'll give it a try. Jesse mtaylor, Jack12477, Elijah and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrangus Posted November 25, 2015 Share #334 Posted November 25, 2015 It's looking really good Jesse! Piet, Jack12477, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share #335 Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) Well, after multiple tries I got the paint to match good enough. Thanks for the tip Thomas. The Golden Oak stain wash did the trick. The pieces are not cast very well. None of the window pain squares are the same shape or size. I tried to make them look as close to the same as I could with the paint. They don't look as nice as I would like but may go with them anyway- still undecided........ Jesse Edited November 26, 2015 by JesseLee GaryKap, popeye the sailor, Beef Wellington and 15 others 18 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted November 26, 2015 Share #336 Posted November 26, 2015 Looks great to me my friend GLakie, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryKap Posted November 26, 2015 Share #337 Posted November 26, 2015 Hey Jesse - Your quarter badges look good to me. I don't think you could get a closer color match. What was your "recipe"? I know you said you used the Golden Oak stain as a wash, but what color and brand of paint did you use under it? And Happy Thanksgiving. <<Gary>> Elijah, GLakie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote current build: SYREN nearly done: Fair American, Benjamin W. Latham future builds: Emma C. Berry completed builds: Rattlesnake, Newsboy, Sultana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share #338 Posted November 26, 2015 Thanks guys, I guess I'll go with them rather than try to build copies out of wood Gary, I painted an undercoat with Testors Wood color enamel paint. This gave a good base color but was too glossy looking even though it is flat paint. Over that I did some washes with acrylic Teddy Bear Tan & Tan colors. Over that I did some very light dry brushing of brown to try to give some appearance of wood grain. Did a little bit of dry brushing with a tan color I blended up myself. Over all that the wash with the Minwax Golden Oak Stain (that I forgot to put in the picture). The stain gives a shiny look at first but after handling it some & dabbing it with a dry brush that sheen sort of rubs down & it looks more flat. It looks a lot like wood before you rub it down but it just looks too glossy. Flat matches the wood on the ship where it will be attached better but it does take some of the wood grain look away. Couldn't figure out a way to keep that wood grain look without it looking like glossy wood. CaptainSteve, cog, _SalD_ and 9 others 12 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted November 26, 2015 Share #339 Posted November 26, 2015 They look convincingly like wood to me Jesse. Nice job! Piet, Salty Sea Dog, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted November 26, 2015 Share #340 Posted November 26, 2015 They look perfect to me. It always amazes me what you can do with paint. David B Piet, CaptainSteve, Elijah and 4 others 7 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gahm Posted November 27, 2015 Share #341 Posted November 27, 2015 Very nice job, Jesse! Your wood simulation looks great! Thomas Elijah, JesseLee, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted November 27, 2015 Share #342 Posted November 27, 2015 Nice painting Jesse. Happy Thanksgiving CaptainSteve, GLakie, Elijah and 4 others 7 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share #343 Posted December 4, 2015 Thanks for the comments about the paining on the quarter badges. Haven't glued them on yet. Was still toying with the idea of remaking them with wood but I'm thinking I'll go with these. Real life problems have been keeping me away from the shipyard way too much but I've been squeezing in every minute I can. Been working on the port lids. It's been going painfully slow. Just got the port side ones done tonight. Now to start the starboard side ones. Piet, Dubz, GaryKap and 19 others 22 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burroak Posted December 4, 2015 Share #344 Posted December 4, 2015 Jesse your ship looks amazing. I've learned a lot from you and others on MSW. Thanks for teaching us. Greg H. Omega1234, mtaylor, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote GREG H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenPink Posted December 4, 2015 Share #345 Posted December 4, 2015 Nice work Jesse well done. Denis Omega1234, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Complete: Sovereign of the Seas - Mantua 1:78 scale Current build: Euro Model "Royal William" Scale 1:72 HMS "Revenge" Victory Model (Amati) Scale 1:64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted December 4, 2015 Share #346 Posted December 4, 2015 Nice work my friend the quarter gallies look great and the port doors look convincingly real I want your talent JesseLee, mtaylor, GLakie and 5 others 8 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 4, 2015 Share #347 Posted December 4, 2015 Hi Jesse I agree! Definitely really nice work, there. Nicely done Patrick CaptainSteve, GLakie, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share #348 Posted December 4, 2015 Thanks guys. Got a question. The port doors have eyebolts on them. Did they grab the eyebolts by hand to pull the doors up or were there lines tied to the eyebolts? The plans show no lines. Jesse GLakie, maddog33, Piet and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piet Posted December 5, 2015 Share #349 Posted December 5, 2015 Nice work JesseLee. I would imagine they tied a rope to the doors to pull them up and let the top ones down. Too long a reach over board and besides these doors must weigh enough to make it awkward otherwise. Cheers, BETAQDAVE, Omega1234, GLakie and 4 others 7 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 5, 2015 Author Share #350 Posted December 5, 2015 Wonder where they would go to & tie off at? GLakie, Elijah, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 5, 2015 Share #351 Posted December 5, 2015 They may have had some tackle and a tie off cleat in the overhead, between the deck beams and carlines. I have battle station plans and that's where the gunport door operating mechanism "resides". A couple of single sheave blocks is all. Piet, BETAQDAVE, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jparsley Posted December 5, 2015 Share #352 Posted December 5, 2015 I have absolutely no idea but from listening to y'all I am learning more and more Not sure if I'll ever get good enough to use the information but I do enjoy watching y'all perform such detailed work mtaylor, Piet, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote USF Constellation 1/85 AL Jparsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share #353 Posted December 6, 2015 I'd like to see a picture of that Ken GLakie, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 6, 2015 Share #354 Posted December 6, 2015 Here you go, Jesse: The notes are mine, sizing the blocks. This plan is part of a practicum over on the MSB site as a Battle Station practicum. It's done in 1/32 scale. UpstateNY, Piet, Elijah and 7 others 10 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 6, 2015 Share #355 Posted December 6, 2015 Jesse, What Ken shows would be for the top half of the port. The lower door hung open. When they needed to be closed, a hook and rope would have been used to catch the eyebolt and then pulled up. As I understand it, on some ships, the ropes would have left attached (Captain's choice) and tied off at the breeching ring. To secure them, they would have been tied up from the lower lid to the rings in the upper lid. On some ships, the securing ropes when to an eyebolt. I'll see if I can find picture. I wondered the same thing when I did the spilt lids on my Constellation and it took a bit of research to find out. JesseLee, GaryKap, CaptainSteve and 6 others 9 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share #356 Posted December 6, 2015 Thanks Mark. I tried to look it up but couldn't find anything Elijah, Canute, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 6, 2015 Share #357 Posted December 6, 2015 I'm looking through my notes and I'll do some more looking. Maybe... zu Mondfeld has something... or not. Piet, Canute, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrangus Posted December 7, 2015 Share #358 Posted December 7, 2015 Jesse just caught up to your build, looking great, the colors look outstanding. I really like the look of the treenails - very authentic looking. Canute, Elijah, JesseLee and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted December 20, 2015 Share #359 Posted December 20, 2015 catching up Jesse.......really coming along nicely making good progress too! GLakie, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share #360 Posted December 22, 2015 Shaped the Boarding ladder steps. Added brass pins so they would hold better. Used thread to line them up straight. Glued the Quarter badges on. Added the Fenders, Chesstrees and Channels. rschissler, GLakie, dgbot and 19 others 22 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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