mattsayers148 Posted May 10, 2016 Share #1 Posted May 10, 2016 Welcome to my newest build log my friends. I picked the Benjamin W Latham because it's the largest model I have. It a 1:48 scale so I should have ample room for details. With my Ranger bash there was virtually nothing left of the original model. With this bash I'm going to build most of everything, but leave it the same ship. I'm also going to take this one as far as I can with the details, adding any/everything that was on this fishing schooner. I like the look of real wood so I'll be staining, not painting, this model. Launched on Oct 30, 1902, she was designed by Thomas F McManus(Boston) and built in the shipyard of Tarr & James(Essex, Massachusetts) for Captain Henry Langworth(Noank, Connecticut). She was built as a sailship and fitted with a 48-horsepower engine sometime during her 2nd or 3rd season. A 72 ton mackerel seiner, she had in tow one seine boat and accommodations for a crew of 15. As with most fishing vessels, most of her career was undocumented, finally lost off San Juan, Puerto Rico in 1943. So take a seat and buckle up, we're going on a journey. I will attempt to make this build an intriguing one. Thank to everyone for all the help and encouragement I received on my previous builds, I welcome you all back again. Elijah, mtaylor, Canute and 12 others 15 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted May 10, 2016 Share #2 Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) CaptainSteve pulls up a barrel and takes out a large pack of Nutz to snack on ... "If this one is anything like yer Ranger, then I be sure not wanting to miss it !!" Edited May 10, 2016 by CaptainSteve Canute, Salty Sea Dog, mattsayers148 and 2 others 5 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 10, 2016 Share #3 Posted May 10, 2016 Barrel? I'm grabbing a stool near the workbench. Elijah, Salty Sea Dog, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted May 10, 2016 Share #4 Posted May 10, 2016 I'm hanging from the ceiling above the bench in my Tom Cruise harness! Elijah, CaptainSteve, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 10, 2016 Share #5 Posted May 10, 2016 Think I'll plop down on this here rope coil and open my box of popcorn. This will be good. CaptainSteve, mattsayers148, Salty Sea Dog and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted May 10, 2016 Share #6 Posted May 10, 2016 I like this boat, I hope you don't mind me following along. I'll have to find somewhere to sit or hang out . mattsayers148, Canute, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share #7 Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) Welcome a board CaptainSteve, Mark, Buck, Ken and Elijah! So we're off! Thankfully after a couple builds fairing ain't so bad. I got the keel-stem assembly(yep, that's the term they use) and bulkheads together squared and true. Transom turned out well, after a soak and steam. I got an idea from my son and used an old hair iron for bending. This worked surprisingly well. So instead of jumpin right in I'm going to study up a bit and take my time on planking. I really like how the double planking turned out on my pirate ship so I may do this again. Since I'm staining. I'm considering using several contrasting woods to get a contrast. So I'm off to start this process. Edited May 12, 2016 by matt.s.s. src, riverboat, russ and 11 others 14 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted May 12, 2016 Share #8 Posted May 12, 2016 This makes into a very nice model and a very large model, when I made it all those years ago. Have fun, and a really good start to Matt. Elijah, mattsayers148, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 12, 2016 Share #9 Posted May 12, 2016 Great start, Matt. Looks like the rabbet was neatly built in with the way the keel-stem assembly attaches. CaptainSteve, mattsayers148, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted May 14, 2016 Share #10 Posted May 14, 2016 She sunk in 1943? Must've been one desperate U-Boat Kapitan. Canute, mattsayers148, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted May 14, 2016 Share #11 Posted May 14, 2016 The Benjamin W. Latham makes into a pretty model. And leaves much to the imagination on the amount of detail you wish to do. I found that Chappelle's American Fishing Schooners invaluable in building her. Have fun. David B MikeB4, mattsayers148, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted May 17, 2016 Share #12 Posted May 17, 2016 I bought a Benjamin W. Latham kit almost 20 years ago and never finished it. It was the second kit I purchased - the first being the Phantom. In the course of moving from Virginia, to Iceland, to Hawaii, and then to Florida, I'm not sure i even have all of the pieces anymore. I made a lot of mistakes in construction, as resources like this were less available back then, but I've learned a lot looking though these build logs, and i plan on picking it up again and finishing as much as can be done before moving on to the other kits I have in waiting. I'll be very interested in following your progress! Stubby Elijah, mattsayers148, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote "They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and his wonders in the deep."- Psalm 107:23-24 (KJV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share #13 Posted May 19, 2016 Thanks Mario, Ken, CH, David, Stubby and to everyone for the likes and encouragement. I'm definitely going to double plank, but I'm taking my time doing a decent first plank for the practice. I decided to hack off the bulkhead/stanchions points since I'm staining and they are ply, which doesn't look good when stained. I'll build all the stanchions and install them later on. The next step was making a solid plank sheer since the models piece had cutouts for the stanchion points. It took a minute to visualize how the plank sheer met up to the transom. Next was to divide the planking into belts and lay them out with battens. Measurements were taken at each bulkhead and evenly spaced ticks were drawn on. The top six planks (7 at aft deck) were fairly simple to install since they were all close in size. I only had to spill a few of them. Now I'm off to the next belt of 6 planks, Salty Sea Dog, Cathead, CDW and 13 others 16 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 19, 2016 Share #14 Posted May 19, 2016 Matt, I like the look of the "to scale" planking. mattsayers148, Salty Sea Dog, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stubby Posted May 19, 2016 Share #15 Posted May 19, 2016 Matt, Wow! You're moving right along. I'll be interested to see how the double planking works; I didn't do that on my build. I also like the idea of hacking off the stanchions. They were a pain to shape and match to the rest of the non-bulkhead stanchions when they were added. Stubby Canute, mtaylor, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote "They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and his wonders in the deep."- Psalm 107:23-24 (KJV) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted May 20, 2016 Share #16 Posted May 20, 2016 Once again I find myself late to a build and a crowded room before me. Setting up a step ladder to watch and take notes. Sam CaptainSteve, mtaylor, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Thanks Ken, Stubby, Sam and everyone for the likes and words of encouragement. I know, I know...I broke the rules and used CA for the first planking. However, the lines of this ship are smooth and gradual. That, and making the planks more true to scale, made things so much easier. Now I'm left with a very nice, smooth and flowing surface to double plank. I've been reading MS's book 'Planking the Built-up Ship Model', and I highly recommend it. Made my first stealers which turned out ok, except I should have done one more(note the sliver). But hey, that's what practice is for. As I mentioned previously, instead of painting, I plan on leaving finished wood instead. I would like to use different materials to accentuate where these color changes are made. Next up, the decks. Edited May 22, 2016 by matt.s.s. src, Elijah, Cap'n Rat Fink and 16 others 19 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 22, 2016 Share #18 Posted May 22, 2016 NIce planking, Matt. It looks good enough to just finish it and not add the second layer. CaptainSteve, MWerth, riverboat and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted May 22, 2016 Share #19 Posted May 22, 2016 Looks beautiful so far. Very neat and clean workmanship. Canute, Elijah, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share #20 Posted May 22, 2016 Thanks Mark. I think my main reason to double plank is for coloring. But, as with my other builds, things could change at any moment. Canute, Elijah, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 22, 2016 Share #21 Posted May 22, 2016 What are your thoughts on the 2nd planking? Walnut, cherry or some more exotic hardwood? CaptainSteve, Elijah, mattsayers148 and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted May 22, 2016 Share #22 Posted May 22, 2016 Looks great. I really like the shape of that hull. Canute, mattsayers148, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elia Posted May 22, 2016 Share #23 Posted May 22, 2016 Matt, Very nice planking job. That looks great as isand should provide a very good base for your second planking. Elia mtaylor, CaptainSteve, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted May 23, 2016 Thank you daddyrabbit1954, Ken, CH, Elia and all those who've pushed the like button. Well Ken, no clue yet. I have piles of veneer, and no clue what most of them are. I've been spinning ideas through my head, maybe split the hull on the waterline with two colors, same thing on the deck. I have to go through my supply and start cutting strips to see how workable they are. I want to make this one lighter than the ol pirate ship. CaptainSteve, Elijah, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted May 24, 2016 Share #25 Posted May 24, 2016 I want to make this one lighter than the ol pirate ship. Great looking planking Matt. So, no paint wood only then. A more refined finish? Sam Canute, mtaylor, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 25, 2016 Author Share #26 Posted May 25, 2016 Thanks Sam. I've painted a couple of boats in the past and I'm starting to like the look of wood. Kinda makes me take longer to make it look good. dgbot, mtaylor, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 25, 2016 Share #27 Posted May 25, 2016 Beautiful! job on your first planking, like Mark said ..."good enough to put a finish on" nice work Matt frank src, Elijah, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Sea Dog Posted May 27, 2016 Share #28 Posted May 27, 2016 Great job with the 1st planking Matt! Love the lines of this hull. mattsayers148, Canute, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted June 1, 2016 Author Share #29 Posted June 1, 2016 Thank you Frank and Buck. I always enjoy hearing from a couple of master-craftsmen. So I decided on these two woods(cherry and yellow poplar I think) and will split these on the waterline. Got the keel/stem and stern post covered as well as a portion of the planking below the waterline. More to come soon. Stubby, Elijah, Elia and 19 others 22 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted June 1, 2016 Share #30 Posted June 1, 2016 She should look real good with your choices of wood Canute, CaptainSteve, mattsayers148 and 3 others 6 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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