HMS Tiger 1747 by Siggi52 - 1:48 - 60 gun ship from NMM plans

[Siggi52]

Hello,

now the coamings for the gratings and the stairway are ready. The carpenters preparing all for building the ladders tomorrow. 

[Mirabell61]

Nice work Siggi,

the painters are doing a good job

 

Nils

[Siggi52]

Thank you Nils, I tell him.

[Siggi52]

Hello, and thank you for your likes

 

The ladders now are ready and installed! That was not my week. I don't know how often I build at least the planks until they fit and new jig's for the saw. But that is snow from this morning. When I haven't forgot anything, planking the QD my next big thing at my list.

 

Here the craftsmen have them ready

and fit in

And also the stair for the officers. There is not much headroom for them. 

[Cathead]

On 2/9/2024 at 8:26 AM, Siggi52 said:

But that is snow from this morning.

I love that German idiom, though I learned it as "Schnee von gestern" (snow from yesterday). You might be interested to know that a rough English equivalent is "water under the bridge", both referring to something that has passed and can be forgotten or forgiven.

 

Wonderful work as always!

[Siggi52]

Hello,

thank you Eric. In this case it had snowed that morning and in the afternoon the snow was gone. So I changed it a little.

 

The future captain protested, because of the stair he should crawl up at hands and feet. So the shipwright decided to change that.

So looked it at the draught

I'm working after the second draught for the Tiger, made in 1747. The first one is from 1745 and shows two stairs or ladders. 

Below:

The upper draught is from the Anson, 60 gunner from 1747, an is made 1745. The second draught is from the Tiger, made 1746! It did't match with the draught (side view) I'm working after. The GD yes, but not the QD and the FC. The beams here not at the same places. At the FC you see that they made changes, they erase some beams and the deck here is shorter than at the side view I'm working after. And it looked so, as if they made the part of the QD new. 

But because my draught is from 1747, it looked so if that is the final version after wich they had build the ship and changed later the deck plans.

At least you could't even trust the draughts. And that is what the carpenters had build now. They cut one beam and made the coming longer. 

The shipwright tested the stair. The beams here are 6 feet high, so with a hat you have to watch your head.

But at the first step his head is in the open. We hope that the captain is now satisfied.

Edited February 11 by Siggi52

[scrubbyj427]

Very nice Siggi, it’s important to keep the captain happy.

[Siggi52]

Hello,

the carpenters started with planking the QD. Here first the balcony and the parquet in the great cabin for the captain. At that time only the great cabin had a parquet. 

And here the painter has oiled the floor

[scrubbyj427]

Beautiful work Siggi. Is there an example of that floor From a contemporary model or source that you are using?

JJ

[Amalio]

Good morning
I really like the naval modeling you do.
Congratulations

[Wintergreen]

Wow, that is next level stuff right there. Next up we will se frames with intarsia on the walls depicting some well known battle 😄 

 

Keep it up!

[Siggi52]

Good morning,

thank you for all the likes. 

 

JJ, yes there is a contemporary floor from that time. The Centurion. The only difference is, they painted obviously there wood! But that did you see at all models. I don't know if that was also the practise, of that time, in real shipbuilding. 

Amalio and Håkan, thank you for your nice comments. Håkan, that would't happen. 

[davec]

Your floor is amazing! Beautiful work!

[brunnels]

Amazing work, you scratch builders are on a different level. 

[Thukydides]

I really like what you have done with the floor.

[druxey]

I think that, in the real ships, the floors would have been painted canvas. Real inlay would not last well in damp conditions.

[Thukydides]

9 minutes ago, druxey said:

I think that, in the real ships, the floors would have been painted canvas. Real inlay would not last well in damp conditions.

So was this canvas essentially like a carpet over the deck planking?

[Siggi52]

Hello and many thanks for your likes and comments

 

Druxey, you are thinking and then is it so? We know that that is not always so. Where are your historic sources? That is something I would wisch for the future. It seams that I'm the only one who used them, and asked for, and others do all to destroy them. 

 

As I know, from my earlier researches for the Dragon and reenactment, that floorcloth was developed in the middle of the 18th century. When I just had a look into wikipedia, there where also some earlier version. „A London painter and stainer, Nathan Smith, was issued a patent in 1763 for waxed cloth specifically as a floor covering.“ Wikipedia

 

Boudriot writes in his book about the 74 gunner, that the deck planking (great cabin) is sheathed with wood-block parquet in a shuttle-pattern. And that was in the 1880th's!

 

In this case the British where the for-runners with floorcloth. In this case I would think, that this is also the work of Thomas Slade to introduce them. 

 

So for the earlier ships I think, that they had a parquet, but not always so fancy in the great cabin.

[druxey]

Yes; such floor cloths, either on land or at sea, were of heavy canvas called druggets. Like much seagoing equipment, they also appear in theatres as painted floor-cloths. (Also think hemp lines and pulleys rigged in fly towers and other theatrically adapted items, often run by ex-mariners.)

 

Painted canvas was certainly in use during the Restoration era at sea; Stuart Royal yachts had red painted canvas over the weather decking, seen in some contemporary paintings. ( I can't immediately find the reference of a van de Velde showing this on a heeled yacht.)

Edited February 16 by druxey

[Siggi52]

Druxey, we are talking here about floorcloth or parquet. Not a weather prove deck or a scene at a theatre. 

 

 

[Siggi52]

Hello,

it seams, that Druxey did't find any historical notes about floorcloth. As so often.

I found an article about this Nathan Smith, mentioned above: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/survey-london/vol45/pp105-106

It looked like, that they had with floorcloth some problems before he solves that with his patent.

 

For the Superb, 74guns 1760 they build at that time a piece of floorcloth. A painted piece of paper:

https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-549999

 

Here at the shipyard the carpenters where busy and laid out the waterways and the first planks

Edited February 21 by Siggi52

[scrubbyj427]

As always, great job Siggi. Very inspiring build.

The Parquet floor is becoming very interesting to me, I’d like to do something similar on Portland. Have you found a good source of other examples elsewhere?

JJ

[Siggi52]

Hello JJ

thank you. There are some, but for your time a floorcloth would be more correct. Have a look into the gallery for historic models, Mark P has there a lot of albums from the Science Museum.  Or what I have build for the Dragon. At page 7 it started with the floorcloth. 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/8505-hms-dragon-build-by-siggi52-scale-148-english-74-gunner-1760/page/7/

 

[scrubbyj427]

Another incredible model Siggi, I will be studying your Dragon build as well. So many similar elements to the Portland class. Well done.

JJ

[Siggi52]

Hello,

it is done. The QD is ready planked and has got its first oiling. 

 

[Wintergreen]

Crazy beautiful Siggi 🙂 

[Ian_Grant]

What an unbelievably clean build; no sign of dinged edges or glue marks or sanding marks or the slightest paint flaw!  Truly amazing work!

[GrandpaPhil]

Incredible work!

[Keith Black]

So very beautiful. 

[Hubac's Historian]

This remains one of my favorite models, Siggi.  The paint work is beautiful, but aged to perfection so that it is not perfectly pristine.  The woodwork is beautifully executed and always in-scale, and the symmetry from port to starboard is beyond reproach.  I also like that this tine period for English warships is the beginning of the end for elegantly rising sheer-lines; in the following decades everything becomes significantly flatter.