GrandpaPhil Posted August 11, 2019 Author #121 Posted August 11, 2019 I made a front piece and side piece for the entry port. I did the carvings. They’re not the best, but they’re the best I could do. I’m happy with them I’m still getting better and the whole point of my Victory build is to use it as a learning project. mtdoramike, Tom E, KurtH and 4 others 7 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
mtdoramike Posted August 11, 2019 #122 Posted August 11, 2019 (edited) Very nice work Grandpa, she will be a real beauty when you finish with her. The Mantua Victory was always one of my favorite representations of the Victory. Oh and by the way, Grandpa, your not going to mimic every single thing on the model to the real ship, at best all you can do or hope to do is suggest, which is what your carving are doing, and a fine job I might add at that. Edited August 11, 2019 by mtdoramike Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote
VictoryGuy Posted August 12, 2019 #123 Posted August 12, 2019 Outstanding job! Looking forward to following the progress. GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote
mtdoramike Posted August 12, 2019 #124 Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/4/2018 at 2:59 PM, CDW said: I am impressed with your tenacity, Grandpa Phil. Your Victory is really shaping up nicely. I must shamefully admit that once I got to the "coppering" of the hull, I backed off and have never picked back up on construction of my HMS Victory. Following your build thread may give me the encouragement needed to start mine back up. That is a bit shameful CD hahahahahahaha, like they say admitting it is always the first step. Old Collingwood, CDW and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote
dan evans Posted August 12, 2019 #125 Posted August 12, 2019 Grampa phil this is Dan the Portland ship builder. nice work on your scratch building I m impressed with what you have taken on GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote
CDW Posted August 12, 2019 #126 Posted August 12, 2019 1 hour ago, mtdoramike said: That is a bit shameful CD hahahahahahaha, like they say admitting it is always the first step. And that was a year ago! I hang my head in shame...🤥 My wife and I are working on getting our house sold. Many things to do in preparation. We intend on buying another home and moving to New Hampshire. I won't be doing any work on the Victory most likely until after we move, and that's another year out at least. GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
mtdoramike Posted August 12, 2019 #127 Posted August 12, 2019 WOW CD, moving from a temperate climate like Florida and moving to New Hampshire, is a big move and require big adjustments I'm sure. Why don't you move over here near me and get out of that Tampa rat race. It's a bit more laid back here, although the lack of hobby shops is a downer. I wind up ordering just about everything I need on line. I'm just busting your chops, I'm sure you will get around to it one day. I know if I have an unfinished model laying around, it will nag me to no end, usually through my wife until I get back to it. mike GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted August 12, 2019 Author #128 Posted August 12, 2019 Lol to both of you! Thank you all for the comments and the likes! Seriously though, CD when you get around to coppering your Victory, let me know. I learned all sorts of valuable lessons between the Victory’s hull and the Prince de Neufchatel’s. The first is that if you decide to use copper tape, use new copper tape that sticks well. I used old copper tape that I found on sale for the Victory, it took me about 30-40 hours to copper it. The tape didn’t stick well and I had to reinforce it with glue. I used new copper tape from an electrical supply house for the Prince de Neufchatel. It took me about 4 hours to copper the hull. Peel and stick with a little bit of fabrication involved. Old Collingwood and CDW 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 12, 2019 Author #129 Posted August 12, 2019 I have the second one under way. The outer side is done. The inner side has a pattern glued to it and is started. It’s going better than the first one. CDW, mtdoramike, KurtH and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
CDW Posted August 12, 2019 #130 Posted August 12, 2019 6 hours ago, mtdoramike said: WOW CD, moving from a temperate climate like Florida and moving to New Hampshire, is a big move and require big adjustments I'm sure. Why don't you move over here near me and get out of that Tampa rat race. It's a bit more laid back here, although the lack of hobby shops is a downer. I wind up ordering just about everything I need on line. I'm just busting your chops, I'm sure you will get around to it one day. I know if I have an unfinished model laying around, it will nag me to no end, usually through my wife until I get back to it. mike This post card photo made me realize just how far north I really was in New Hampshire. mtdoramike, GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
Barry1 Posted August 13, 2019 #131 Posted August 13, 2019 17 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: I have the second one under way. The outer side is done. The inner side has a pattern glued to it and is started. It’s going better than the first one. Nice work on your Victory. I just read through your log and have 2 questions, why did you put the Victory on hold for 8 months to build the Prince? Reason I’m asking is as I retired last year I decided to get back into modeling. I built many plastics as a teen. Wood seemed like a great medium and would allow me to build my skills. My goal is to build the Victory by Caldercraft and the Constitution by Bluejacket. My skills aren’t ready for that so I’m following a bit of the Hunt approach and started with some beginner ships and am now working on intermediates(current build is Mayflower). Hopefully by next year I’ll be ready for one of these. I agree that the more you build the more your skills and confidence to tackle new things grow. Love to see your card stock work. Second question was what tools are you using to do your carvings. This is an area I want to build skills in as well. Thanks Old Collingwood, Retired guy, KurtH and 3 others 6 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted August 13, 2019 Author #132 Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) I took the 8 months to build the Prince de Neufchatel because I found Ab Hoving’s tutorial on scratch building from card and I was frustrated with the Victory (what I wanted to accomplish exceeded my skills). Ab Hoving’s tutorial is excellent. It motivated me to try a card scratch build. Plus, I needed more practice. I chose the Prince de Neufchatel because I kept seeing build logs of the Model Shipway kits and I thought with it being a Baltimore Clipper that it would be a relatively quick build (I was wrong). I also never expected to get past the making the hull stage. I expected that the model would end up in the trash. I didn’t have confidence in my skills. Every time a problem would come up, I’d do research here to find a solution, or I would just power through it (making the cannons and carronades). I would adapt and overcome. By the time I had a fitted out deck I realized that I had come too far to turn back, so I kept going. Then I decided that I would like a fully rigged model with sails. The project grew from there. I had the most fun that I have ever had building a model and I learned a lot. I used a scalpel with a number 11 blade to do my carving. Edited August 14, 2019 by GrandpaPhil Tom E, SIDEWAYS SAM and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Barry1 Posted August 14, 2019 #133 Posted August 14, 2019 15 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: I took the 8 months to build the Prince de Neufchatel because I found Ab Hoving’s tutorial on scratch building from card and I was frustrated with the Victory (what I wanted to accomplish exceeded my skills). Ab Hoving’s tutorial is excellent. It motivated me to try a card scratch build. Plus, I needed more practice. I chose the Prince de Neufchatel because I kept seeing build logs of the Model Shipway kits and I thought with it being a Baltimore Clipper that it would be a relatively quick build (I was wrong). I also never expected to get past the making the hull stage. I expected that the model would end up in the trash. I didn’t have confidence in my skills. Every time a problem would come up, I’d do research here to find a solution, or I would just power through it (making the cannons and carronades). I would adapt and overcome. By the time I had a fitted out deck I realized that I had come too far to turn back, so I kept going. Then I decided that I would like a fully rigged model with sails. The project grew from there. I had the most fun that I have ever had building a model and I learned a lot. I used a scalpel with a number 11 blade to do my carving. Thanks!! GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote
Old Collingwood Posted August 15, 2019 #134 Posted August 15, 2019 Great seeing you back on your Vic all the best - I must make more of an effort to keep up with your fresh approach with your build. OC. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
GrandpaPhil Posted August 16, 2019 Author #135 Posted August 16, 2019 I came to the conclusion that the cutwater has to come off and be replaced. The profile of the one from the kit doesn’t match the profile of the one from the AOTS which has the plans that I’m using. I’ll make a card template to mark off my cuts on the model (to be made with a coping saw) and the piece of basswood that I will be making the replacement from. I’m going to do that after I finish the entry ports (I hate leaving stuff unfinished), because I need to do that before I go too much further so I don’t damage all the rest of my work. I’ll probably make the head at the same time (which is always a good challenge) so I can paint it when I start doing touch ups on the rest of the hull. Old Collingwood 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 17, 2019 Author #136 Posted August 17, 2019 I finished an entry port, it just requires trimming and painting. Justin P., Retired guy, Daliab and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 17, 2019 Author #137 Posted August 17, 2019 Starboard entry port is dry fitted! I also sanded the top smooth. Old Collingwood, Tom E, Jonesey and 5 others 8 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
The Lazy Saint Posted August 17, 2019 #138 Posted August 17, 2019 Hi GrandpaPhil. That really does look good, well done you. Now, on to the next one. 👍 Best wishes as always. The Lazy Saint. GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted August 18, 2019 Author #139 Posted August 18, 2019 Thank you very much! The second entry port is in work. I made the first side piece. catopower, Edwardkenway, Retired guy and 2 others 5 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Old Collingwood Posted August 18, 2019 #140 Posted August 18, 2019 Excellent work. OC. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Edwardkenway Posted August 18, 2019 #141 Posted August 18, 2019 Hi I realise I'm a little late into this log but reading through it I have say you're doing a beautiful job of her. Your carving is very good. Keep up the great work Cheers Jon GrandpaPhil and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
Kevin Posted August 18, 2019 #142 Posted August 18, 2019 Looking great, well done, Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
GrandpaPhil Posted August 18, 2019 Author #143 Posted August 18, 2019 Excellent! Congratulations on the upgraded shipyard! I look forward to seeing updates! Old Collingwood and Edwardkenway 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Old Collingwood Posted August 18, 2019 #144 Posted August 18, 2019 I foregot to say phil - its the small scale extras that you are adding to your vic that are making her stand out, and as we all discover its a slow progress but with thought - that makes all the difference - loving your attention to detail. OC. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
GrandpaPhil Posted August 19, 2019 Author #145 Posted August 19, 2019 Thank you all very much for the likes and the comments! I finished the second entry port. In my opinion it came out better than the first. It’s still not perfect, but I’m happy with it. I’m getting better. Edwardkenway, paulsutcliffe, Daliab and 7 others 10 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
The Lazy Saint Posted August 19, 2019 #146 Posted August 19, 2019 Hi GrandpaPhil. Another success, well done you. I suspect your carving will improve the more you do it so keep up the good work. Best wishes as always. The Lazy Saint. Old Collingwood and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote
GrandpaPhil Posted August 19, 2019 Author #147 Posted August 19, 2019 Thank you both! I forgot to mention the most important part, I had a lot of fun making them! Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood and Retired guy 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 23, 2019 Author #148 Posted August 23, 2019 I cut the nose off the Victory. I am getting the replacement ready to install. paulsutcliffe 1 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 23, 2019 Author #149 Posted August 23, 2019 New nose dry fitted: Old Collingwood, paulsutcliffe, Retired guy and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
GrandpaPhil Posted August 23, 2019 Author #150 Posted August 23, 2019 The nose is all cut out now. It still needs some minor sanding, but it will work. I’m happy with it. SIDEWAYS SAM, paulsutcliffe and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
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