Valeriy V Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share #61 Posted November 14, 2018 Deck installation. Beef Wellington, yvesvidal, lmagna and 18 others 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted November 14, 2018 Share #62 Posted November 14, 2018 Glad I have just found your log before you have got too far Valeriy, love this style of model. Making all of the metal parts must be so time consuming and sadly I'm not familiar with the techniques so looking to be educate by you. I can't even imagine the amount of work you have ahead of you...but it will be worth it. popeye the sailor, paulsutcliffe, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share #63 Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Beef Wellington said: Glad I have just found your log before you have got too far Valeriy, love this style of model. Making all of the metal parts must be so time consuming and sadly I'm not familiar with the techniques so looking to be educate by you. I can't even imagine the amount of work you have ahead of you...but it will be worth it. Hey Jason. Thanks for the kind words. I will be happy to help you with my experience. Deck on forecastle. Canute, hexnut, Tigersteve and 19 others 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted November 15, 2018 Share #64 Posted November 15, 2018 Very impressive! popeye the sailor, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share #65 Posted November 17, 2018 On 11/15/2018 at 3:55 AM, GrandpaPhil said: Very impressive! Thanks Phil! Stern casemate for 75 mm guns.... Canute, yvesvidal, coxswain and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share #66 Posted November 17, 2018 (edited) On the right side of the ship, the casemate is shown open. Edited November 17, 2018 by Valeriy V Ondras71, Bob Legge, Canute and 15 others 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 17, 2018 Share #67 Posted November 17, 2018 Valeriy, wonderful brass metal work, and joining into the hull, it looks top !! Nils Canute, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotrecerf Posted November 17, 2018 Share #68 Posted November 17, 2018 Hello Valeriy, wow, fantastic work! Varyag is of the same period and style as a future project I am planning to build: German Gun Boat Iltis II stationary of Tsing Tau in 1900. Looking forward to learning of the progress of your Cruiser. Joachim Canute, hexnut, mtaylor and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share #69 Posted November 17, 2018 2 hours ago, cotrecerf said: Hello Valeriy, wow, fantastic work! Varyag is of the same period and style as a future project I am planning to build: German Gun Boat Iltis II stationary of Tsing Tau in 1900. Looking forward to learning of the progress of your Cruiser. Joachim Hello Joachim! I would be glad if you join. We will build models together and then there will be more metal ships on the forum. Iltis II interesting and original ship. ccoyle, Canute, DORIS and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 17, 2018 Author Share #70 Posted November 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Mirabell61 said: Valeriy, wonderful brass metal work, and joining into the hull, it looks top !! Nils Thanks Nils! Ahead nasal casemates, they are much more complicated. mtaylor, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted November 23, 2018 Share #71 Posted November 23, 2018 very nice progress! mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share #72 Posted November 24, 2018 20 hours ago, popeye the sailor said: very nice progress! The continuation of the construction .... Side strakes. lmagna, Bob Legge, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share #73 Posted November 24, 2018 Marking on the hull, using masking tape. paulsutcliffe, DORIS, KORTES and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share #74 Posted November 24, 2018 Then I cover the hull with a liquid putty for cars. Removing camouflage tape and I get the result on the photo: coxswain, dj.bobo, davyboy and 14 others 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share #75 Posted November 24, 2018 When grinding the body, I control the thickness of the strakes. With the help of a plate thickness of 0.25-0.3 mm. yvesvidal, druxey, coxswain and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share #76 Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) The result after grinding on the photo: Edited November 24, 2018 by Valeriy V popeye the sailor, steamschooner, Roger Pellett and 24 others 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted November 24, 2018 Share #77 Posted November 24, 2018 Interesting technique, Valeriy. The result looks very nice. Canute, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reg Posted November 25, 2018 Share #78 Posted November 25, 2018 Amazing work!! Greg Canute, Mirabell61, popeye the sailor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 25, 2018 Share #79 Posted November 25, 2018 Hi Valeriy, I was already wondering if you would bring metal plating on to the hull. Now the surprise with liquid putty and masking tape. The result is fantastic, well done, thanks for sharing your methode here.... Nils lmagna, popeye the sailor, shipman and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted November 25, 2018 Share #80 Posted November 25, 2018 It is just amazing to see how the grown ups do it!!!! mtaylor, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #81 Posted November 25, 2018 Thank you all for your feedback on my work! shipman, dvm27, popeye the sailor and 19 others 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #82 Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, mmdd said: Valeriy V There are very few metal ships on the forum. I will try to add a little in my opinion metal ships are something like You are a little wrong. I wrote about metal SHIPS. You wrote about the metal MODELS of ships. Perhaps the reason for this error is my bad English. coxswain, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #83 Posted November 25, 2018 59 minutes ago, Mirabell61 said: Hi Valeriy, I was already wondering if you would bring metal plating on to the hull. Now the surprise with liquid putty and masking tape. The result is fantastic, well done, thanks for sharing your methode here.... Nils Hi, Nils! Thanks for the feedback. This method has long been used by ship modelers from the former Soviet Union. ErnieL, coxswain, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 25, 2018 Share #84 Posted November 25, 2018 Thanks for your feedback comment Valeriy, is there perhaps a way of resembling rivet heads and vertical joints on the model, and in combination with that method, if the belt strakes were not welded ? I trust in your case scale 1:75 may allow visible (flattened) rivets, they would not be too dominant in that case. Nils mtaylor, Valeriy V, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #85 Posted November 25, 2018 47 minutes ago, mmdd said: Valeriy V You are a little wrong. I wrote about metal SHIPS. Two examples of metal SHIPS (iron-hulled) James Craig launched 1874 Rickmer Rickmers launched 1896 Valeriy V Perhaps the reason for this error is my bad English маєте рацію - гарна допомога The Oxford Companion to Ships and the Sea (Peter Kemp, Oxford University Press). Thank you, mmdd. I will use your help. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #86 Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Mirabell61 said: Thanks for your feedback comment Valeriy, is there perhaps a way of resembling rivet heads and vertical joints on the model, and in combination with that method, if the belt strakes were not welded ? I trust in your case scale 1:75 may allow visible (flattened) rivets, they would not be too dominant in that case. Nils Good question, Nils! Here is the table of the German Lloyd, the diameters of the rivets, depending on the thickness of the sheet. Probably, the data of English Lloyd are not very different. It turns out that the size of the heads of the rivets in the range of 15-45 mm. In my opinion, showing the size of the heads of rivets on a scale of 1: 100 1:75 does not make sense. If the diameter of the rivet heads is shown correctly, they become almost invisible by 0.15-0.6 mm. On Varyag all the heads of the rivets were not visible, option "C". popeye the sailor, Mirabell61, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #87 Posted November 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Mirabell61 said: Thanks for your feedback comment Valeriy, is there perhaps a way of resembling rivet heads and vertical joints on the model, and in combination with that method, if the belt strakes were not welded ? I trust in your case scale 1:75 may allow visible (flattened) rivets, they would not be too dominant in that case. Nils I cut the vertical joints on the hull of the boat with a sharp knife blade along the ruler. Beef Wellington, Mirabell61, KORTES and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 25, 2018 Share #88 Posted November 25, 2018 Thanks for explaining Valeriy, yes, it makes sence with Option "C" type used on Varyag and rivet-heads sunk and flush with plates and overpainted anyhow.... Nils popeye the sailor, Valeriy V, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valeriy V Posted November 25, 2018 Author Share #89 Posted November 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Mirabell61 said: Thanks for explaining Valeriy, yes, it makes sence with Option "C" type used on Varyag and rivet-heads sunk and flush with plates and overpainted anyhow.... Nils Nils, you can try to show the head of the rivet with a tube of the desired diameter with sharp edges. But an experiment is needed. Mirabell61, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted November 25, 2018 Share #90 Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Valeriy V said: Nils, you can try to show the head of the rivet with a tube of the desired diameter with sharp edges. But an experiment is needed. Thanks Valeriy. good idea with with a sharp edged tube....., I tried it once by using injection needles (due to the mini diameter) for this purpose, but the application worked out too messy... Nils Valeriy V, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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