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Germania Nova 1911 by KeithAug - FINISHED - Scale 1:36 - replica of schooner Germania 1908


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Beautiful work, Keith.

It is a pleasure following along.

 

Dan

Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser

 

Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS OneidaSwan 42 racing yacht  Queen Anne's Revenge (1710) SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914),  James B Colgate (1892),  POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration

 

Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas

 

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Roger, Patrick, Dan, - thank you for your interest and comments.

Michael - thank you and good to see you back.

Mark - thank you, the colour is pure white - looking at the photo I see why you asked the question. I think it must be a photographic effect.

 

I have had a few attempts at the scroll work. I started with Fimo but quickly gave it up, much too difficult (at least for me) to get the the thin strands to stay where I wanted them. I decided to have a go at using wire - which involed a deal of scrap white I learned the best way to do it.

 

I started with 2 lengths of .040 brass rod.

The first I hammered into a fine taper at the end - assisted by a number of annealing steps. One more annealing and I rolled the coil using a pair of needle nosed pliers.

The second was hammered into chisel ended taper before being shaped to nest against the rod - again I employed a number of annealing steps.

I used a blown up print of one of my Germania photos as a basis for building the scroll.

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I then started bending other scrolls from .031" brass wire. Again hammering the ends to tapers as required to blend into the joining surfaces. The larger curved piece was later replace with reshaped part.

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Other shapes were created and added - some of the finer ones out of .025" brass wire. Bashing wire with a small hammer proved to be quite satisfying.

So I carried on.........

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In the next photo you can see that the largest curved piece has been replace by a similar piece terminating in a coil.

The assembly has been soldered hence the mess!!!!! I soldered all the lot in one go by arranging the pieces together and then putting a very small piece of solder at each interconnection. Then I used my wife's kitchen blow torch to heat the lot in one go.

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It cleaned up quite nicely. I took a file and emery paper to the reverse side to take some of the curvature out of the wire.

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The observant of you will notice I have mistakenly omitted one of the pieces (idiot). The silver of the solder isn't a problem because the part will be painted gold to match the rubbing strip.

I cut the piece to length and then bent and twisted the part to mach the curvature of the hull. In the next photo it is just lying on the hull - the photo has been inverted to show the final orientation.

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I then started to build the second one and at this stage found the missing bit. I gave up and had my dinner.

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Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Your polymer leaf work turned out great Keith.  And the scroll work in brass is just plain sweet - graceful and elegant.   Looking forward to seeing your beautiful hull flipped over.

 

Gary

Current Build   Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger  

 

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Rangeley Guide Boat   New England Stonington Dragger   1940 Auto Repair Shop   Mack FK Shadowbox    

 

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Stunning Keith, a very nice contrast.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

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Bedford, Tom, Gary, Pat - thank you for your kind comments and as ever thank you to everyone for the likes.

 

Despite the wet week I have not got a lot done - constructing a bike box for my son and erecting a fence for my daughter sort of got in the way.

Not withstanding this I finished the scroll work - that is until I decide I need more detail.

 

The next photo shows the second scroll parts created and positioned alongside the first to check size.

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This time I soldered the scroll with the missing item from the first scroll added.

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And then I corrected the first scroll.

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I made a bit of extra scroll work and the scrolls were then painted with gold paint to match the rubbing strips.

The next step was to pin the scrolls in place using brass dressmakers pins and then glued using CA. Finally I did a bit of touch up with gold / white paint.

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Tomorrow I hope to remove the hull from the building board.

 

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Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Awesome!  They look so alike you would think they were CNC'd - great control.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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Wonderful accurate metal and soldering work...

 

Rob

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On 6/13/2019 at 1:13 PM, KeithAug said:

Tomorrow I hope to remove the hull from the building board.

Release the Kraken!

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

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4 hours ago, Keith Black said:

Release the Kraken!

It might turn out to be a triffid - or a cuckoo!!!!

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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20 hours ago, Jim Lad said:

That looks fairly reasonable,

Thank you John - any praise is welcome - even faint praise.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

Other Topics

Nautical Adventures

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13727-nautical-adventures/?p=422846

 

 

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1 hour ago, KeithAug said:

It might turn out to be a triffid - or a cuckoo!!!!

I think not Keith. I and I'm sure I speak for everyone else who has been following your build, have anticipated seeing your beautiful hull freed from it's building board, uprighted and taken to wind and wing. 

Current Builds:  1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                             Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                             Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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Pat, Druxey, GL, Cortes, Rob, ZBip - thank you all for your comments.

 

After a number of unusual years we seem to have returned to a traditional British summer, rain, wind, floods etc - but fortunately no floods in Sussex. At least the inclement weather has facilitated a few good hours in the workshop.

 

I got round to hacking off the hull from the building board. A fairly quick and painless job with a full sized cross cut saw.

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You may recall from earlier that I had cut the frames along the deck line leaving about 1/2 inch uncut, I now needed to cut through this 1/2 inch to release the frames. I used 25mm diameter slitting saw blade mounted in my RotaCraft drill (bit like a Dremel)  to cut through the retaining web. In the next photo the first up-stand has been removed. The bulwark planks aren't very thick and hence are fragile. Once I had cut through the web I carefully eased the top of the up-stand rearward and the twisting motion broke away the glued frame connection with the bulwark. Again you may  recall that I had inserted a piece of paper between the frame and the bulwark planks to form a line of weakness to facilitate removal of the up-stand. In the photo you can see how cleanly the frame came away from the bulwark (white paper residue remains). This technique proved to be a success.

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I progressed with the removal - a relatively slow job - I need a more powerful rotary tool.

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In  the next photo I have outlined the pre cut deck lines in case my earlier explanation was a bit muddled.

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It was at about this stage that my daughter paid a visit to the workshop and declared the deck house to be a bit on the large size!!!!!!!

 

I had assumed the bulwarks would be fragile and indeed they were - although a little less so than I had expected. My plan had always been to back the bulwarks with 1/32 ply. Rather than wait for all the frame up-stands to be removed I decided to do the backing in stages. My plan to improve solidity is illustrated in the next sketch.

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I therefore cleaned up the insides of the bulwarks with sandpaper before gluing on the plywood with PVA glue. The second picture understates the clamps - I actually had one every inch.

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Some time later i was doing the 3rd and 4th strips of plywood backing - this time showing the clamp forest. I should explain that I pre-drilled the plywood where the bulwark penetrations will be made later.

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I have virtually completed removal of the up-stands - just 3 left at the bow where I can't get the rotary saw in without damaging the bulwark planks. I need to find a way of removing these. Then I will have to remove the nibs of the up-stands before fairing the frames to take the deck.

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Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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24 minutes ago, wefalck said:

I thought the idea was to have it to near scale thickness

Eberhard

 

The bulwarks on Germania are an extension of the steel hull. I'm not sure of the thickness of steel used but I would guess it is 1/8 to 3/16 inch. At 1:36 scale this equates to about .004" to .006". I think you would agree that this isn't really a feasible thickness for planked wooden construction. The thickness of the bulwark will however be hidden under the rail and as such I'm not too worried about it not being to scale.

 

25 minutes ago, wefalck said:

Just wondering, why you didn't then make the bulwark thicker right away ?

The hull planking was about .055" thick and it made sense to continue this thickness up to the bulwark. The mahogany planking is much stronger lengthwise (along the grain) and of course the bulwark is several planks deep. I felt that the plywood and the PVA intermediate layer would give me much needed additional strength in the vertical plane. The other benefit of plywood backing is that the inner face of the bulwark is going to be finished smooth and painted white. The plywood gives me a good surface without having to resort to excessive sanding.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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1 hour ago, Jim Lad said:

She's a big beast when you see her upright like that,

John - Yes - she however feels very light now that the building board has gone.

Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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Thank you Druxey and Valeriy

 

The weather improved which means snail paced progress resumes.

 

I spent some time finishing lining the bulwarks with 1/32 ply. I pre drilled the bulwark penetrations in the ply. I will open the holes in the bulwark planks from the outside and hopefully the pre drilling will leave a clean hole. In any event all holes will have brass insets. 73777FC6-D747-4FD2-9579-6005121CA4A4.thumb.jpeg.0646703f649a741929199afab9f94986.jpegC154BF9A-B823-4F6F-9EB1-6FD5AB7F1B36.thumb.jpeg.b2aa913612095cabad4b61b1cfd445c2.jpeg0E831C94-ECDA-4A69-95B1-C937465297F5.thumb.jpeg.57808c8d8b488809875fff4f7b8a8c61.jpeg

I did make a start on the deck. 

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The lines are not an amateur attempt at simulating deck planking. I drew on the grid lines to form a guide for the deck planking which will be applied over the plywood sub-deck. The transverse dimension between centre line and deck edge was transferred from the hull using engineers dividers. I also drew on the positions of the various deck structures. The sub deck is made from 1/32 ply and not 1/16 as previously mentioned.

 

The sad news is my laptop is dead and has gone off to the repairer, fortunately it is still under warranty (I am typing this on tablet). Unfortunately the lap top has all the Germania photos and plans on it. So until it returns progress will be curtailed even further. 

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Keith

 

Current Build:-

Cangarda (Steam Yacht) - Scale 1:24

 

Previous Builds:-

 

Schooner Germania (Nova) - Scale 1:36

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/19848-schooner-germania-nova-by-keithaug-scale-136-1908-2011/

Schooner Altair by KeithAug - Scale 1:32 - 1931

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/12515-schooner-altair-by-keithaug-scale-132-1931/?p=378702

J Class Endeavour by KeithAug - Amati - Scale 1:35 - 1989 after restoration.

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10752-j-class-endeavour-by-keithaug-amati-scale-135-1989-after-restoration/?p=325029

 

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More nice work Keith, makes my day seeing these updates - but I don't think the 'laptop' has made yours :(

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch)

Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350)

Built:          Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)

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I hope it wasn't a hard drive that failed, Keith.  I would encourage you and everyone else to either do regulator backups onto a CD, another computer, or get a purpose built backup.  Seagate makes some and they're pretty reasonably priced, IMO.  I had a harddrive failure in January and was very happy I had a backup of all my data.

 

 

Mark
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