druxey Posted July 5, 2022 Share #61 Posted July 5, 2022 And druxey has a big scrap box! rlb, mtaylor, davec and 1 other 2 2 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Mr Bean Posted July 5, 2022 Share #62 Posted July 5, 2022 If a modeller have not scrap box, he is not a modeller ! 🤣 mtaylor, rlb and davec 3 Quote Friendly, health and peace for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvm27 Posted July 5, 2022 Share #63 Posted July 5, 2022 14 hours ago, druxey said: And druxey has a big scrap box! I'll bet mine is a lot bigger than yours! French Mr Bean, allanyed, rlb and 4 others 6 1 Quote GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 5, 2022 Share #64 Posted July 5, 2022 2 hours ago, dvm27 said: I'll bet mine is a lot bigger than yours! Time for a "who's got the bigger scarp pile" fight? Saburo, rlb, druxey and 3 others 6 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted July 5, 2022 Author Share #65 Posted July 5, 2022 Ahh, I think having a lot of scraps in your scrap box doesn't necessarily mean you make more mistakes. (Though it's true in my case!) I think it can also be directly proportional to how much of a perfectionist you are! Saburo, bdgiantman2, tlevine and 5 others 8 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted July 5, 2022 Share #66 Posted July 5, 2022 (edited) Ok guys with a bigger scrap box which I have and it's over flowing what is one to do with all the small little pieces of wood??? O I know send it to you guys and let you figure that one out. You guys are talking about who has the biggest one right? 🤪 Edited July 5, 2022 by garyshipwright dvm27, French Mr Bean, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 6, 2022 Share #67 Posted July 6, 2022 When my box gets full, I take the small pieces to the fireplace for kindling. The larger ones go back in the box just in case. Saburo, davec and French Mr Bean 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk1313 Posted July 6, 2022 Share #68 Posted July 6, 2022 Working in 1/96 scale there is no such thing as too small, all go into labelled ( by wood type ) plastic shoe boxes. 😁 - Hal mtaylor, allanyed and davec 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koopyetz Posted July 9, 2022 Share #69 Posted July 9, 2022 mtaylor, USNCHief, davec and 3 others 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaWatch Books Posted August 3, 2022 Share #70 Posted August 3, 2022 On 5/28/2021 at 5:45 PM, rlb said: I am embarking on a new build. I had thought to not start another until I finished Oneida, but progress is going slow on her, and I am not getting any younger! Since Oneida is getting near the rigging stage, perhaps going back and forth between hull work on Euryalus, and rigging on Oneida, will keep my interest up in both. I am building a proper layout board, and this is the extent of my progress to date! It's not finished, and the framing guide is not fastened down yet. It is based on Ed Tosti's Naiad building board, but bigger, as his was for a similar sized ship, but at 1:60 scale. I understand why the smaller scale. When I saw the Euryalus plans which are drawn at 1:48, I was quite surprised at the size. However, I quite like the idea of always building at the same scale, so as my Oneida is 1:48, so also will be my Euryalus. As I mentioned, I am rigging Oneida, but I have no plans to rig Euryalus. I would have no place to put it. I have one issue, as I begin. Volume 1 of Euryalus is now sold out, and out of print at Seawatch books. I have purchased a new Vol. 2, so I have a complete set of the second volume drawings, but I am missing some drawings from Volume 1. I am wondering if anyone out there, who owns Volume 1 would allow me to copy the ones I am missing--I believe the ones I need are #6 Body; Bow Pieces; Rudder; Cross Section, and #13 Beam Patterns; Stern Timbers. Or, if you own Volume 1 (with all the drawings) and do not think you want to keep it..... If the book was still in print I would, of course, purchase it and support the authors, Allan Yedlinsky and Wayne Kempson; and Seawatch books. Allan and Wayne have been very helpful to me in getting off the ground (off the ways?). I just need to get copies of those missing drawings! PM me if you can help. Ron Hi Ron, I know this post is from last year, but as the new owner of SeaWatch I wanted to let you know I am planning on reprinting Vol I - it just may be a few more months given some new titles coming out. That said, let me know if I can help you on the plans front if you haven't gotten an older copy yet. Mike allanyed, mtaylor, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted August 4, 2022 Author Share #71 Posted August 4, 2022 22 hours ago, SeaWatch Books said: Hi Ron, I know this post is from last year, but as the new owner of SeaWatch I wanted to let you know I am planning on reprinting Vol I - it just may be a few more months given some new titles coming out. That said, let me know if I can help you on the plans front if you haven't gotten an older copy yet. Mike That's great news Mike. With Allan's and Wayne's help I was able to get pdfs of the plans. And I'll order the book as soon as it's available! davec, allanyed, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Cleland Posted November 23, 2022 Share #72 Posted November 23, 2022 On 8/3/2022 at 2:23 PM, SeaWatch Books said: Hi Ron, I know this post is from last year, but as the new owner of SeaWatch I wanted to let you know I am planning on reprinting Vol I - it just may be a few more months given some new titles coming out. That said, let me know if I can help you on the plans front if you haven't gotten an older copy yet. Mike @SeaWatch Books - I’ve been looking at the HMS Naiad books on your website and following up on your reply above do you know when you will have Vol 2 available, ditto for Vol 1 of the HMS EURYALUS book? Being located in the UK it would be cost effective to buy both volumes of either the Naiad or the Euryalus books in terms of shipping as shipping is around $50 for one book 😲. Thanks Iain. Saburo, davec and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted January 21, 2023 Author Share #73 Posted January 21, 2023 (edited) Hello all, It's been since last July that I've done any building on Euryalus. When the 3rd attempt at the bollard and hawse timbers turned out to be a failure, I walked away, and I've only just in the last week or so had the motivation to try again. So here I am-- As far as I can tell, the 2nd attempt at the port bollard/hawse timbers was okay. I was lucky I think. It's the starboard ones that have given me fits. Here is a fourth batch cut out, roughly shaped, and stacked on the board. During fitting, they seem good. I am doing a first pass at sanding the partial gaps in them. I'm not very confident yet with my Byrne's saw skill, so I'm still doing the gaps by hand. I'm also starting to cut out the rising wood pieces. I tried initially to use my rotary tool as a milling machine, to cut the notches, but the vertical adjustment is too imprecise and difficult get a consistent result with, so I'm doing the frame notches by hand, using a saw, small chisel, and file. I've broken one corner, but I'll repair it and any other that may get "chipped" at some point-- Another task is slowly working on cutting out and assembling the frames. First rough cut the pieces, then cut and chisel out the chock notches, glue up the frames without chocks, then shape and glue in the chocks. I have all the forward cant frames at various stages of assembly-- Ron Edited January 22, 2023 by rlb KORTES, KentM, tlevine and 12 others 15 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted January 21, 2023 Share #74 Posted January 21, 2023 Ah, so that's the reason for the absence. Don't think that we didn't notice 😉 Makes sense of course. Better to walk away than doing something irreversible stupid. Hm, they say the bollards and the stern timbers are some of the hardest parts to figure out. But on the bright side, when you have mastered it, you have taken a step up the skill stairs 😉 Keep it up! JohnLea, druxey, davec and 3 others 6 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebomba Posted January 21, 2023 Share #75 Posted January 21, 2023 Always good to see you progress on one of your builds, slow and steady wins the race or so they say Best Ed druxey, davec, rlb and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLea Posted January 22, 2023 Share #76 Posted January 22, 2023 Damn. Keep trying. It is important to us. davec, rlb, Gahm and 2 others 4 1 Quote The closer you get to Canada, the more things will eat your horses. ~ T. King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 22, 2023 Share #77 Posted January 22, 2023 Often hand tools are better unless one is a genius machinist! Most of us have repeatedly failed with bollard and hawse timbers, as well as cant frames. I certainly did in my first fully framed hull! Stay the course and you will succeed. davec, allanyed, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 22, 2023 Share #78 Posted January 22, 2023 Good to see you back, Ron. I'm total agreement with Håkan on walking away. So don't feel bad as a break is a good thing. Saburo, davec, Wintergreen and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 22, 2023 Share #79 Posted January 22, 2023 Keep at it, you have a ton of support and supporters here at MSW. I find if I need a respite for any reason, it is good to maybe get into the deck furniture or boats or some such for a particular build. Keeps the project moving along nicely and eases the frustration at the same time. Allan JohnLea, KentM, rlb and 4 others 7 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted January 24, 2023 Author Share #80 Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Thanks everyone for your encouragement! It is very appreciated. I carry on. Here are the two sets of bollard/hawse timbers spot glued to the stem. As I previously wrote, the port set seem to be okay, and the starboard set was the trouble. This set looked like it was going to work out-- However, after removing them, and doing some more rough shaping, I discovered that the second hawse timber out was not okay. I unglued it, and cut a new one, very oversized, to replace it-- I spot glued this one in place, and rough shaped the assembly-- Though these are FAR from perfect, and still require plenty of fairing, I pray that they are sufficient; though I will not be surprised to find out farther down the line that they have problems! They will not be permanently glued into place until I have more of the forward framing done. Ron Edited January 24, 2023 by rlb gjdale, botra288, Paul Le Wol and 18 others 21 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted January 24, 2023 Share #81 Posted January 24, 2023 This looks amazing Ron - maybe not perfect, but amazing! hamilton rlb and mtaylor 2 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrubbyj427 Posted January 24, 2023 Share #82 Posted January 24, 2023 (edited) Very nice work Ron, it’s coming along very well! Edited January 24, 2023 by scrubbyj427 mtaylor and rlb 2 Quote Current Builds: HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 - 5th rate 32 gun frigate (on hold for now) HMS Portland 1770 Prototype 1:48 - 4th rate 50 gun ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiz Posted January 28, 2023 Share #83 Posted January 28, 2023 Hi, I'm looking at your start, you're doing a good job, good continuation☺️ rlb and davec 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
botra288 Posted February 1, 2023 Share #84 Posted February 1, 2023 I'm new in this field, but realized that I have a lot of to learn from your wonderful work Ron!! I will continue to follow with great curiosity 🙂 rlb, allanyed, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 1, 2023 Share #85 Posted February 1, 2023 Persistence pays off! davec, rlb and mtaylor 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koopyetz Posted February 1, 2023 Share #86 Posted February 1, 2023 Glad to see you back. There isn't any part of this model beyond your ability. mtaylor, rlb, davec and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted March 1, 2023 Author Share #87 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) Thanks everyone for looking in, commenting, and liking! It's been a while since my last posting, but I have been spending time in the shipyard. I have been slowly cutting out and gluing up the first full frame pair,Q-(f)orward and (a)ft, and all the rest of the pairs of forward cant frames. Z was already done so that's R through Y (f and a for each). The last two are here. They just happen to be Uf and Sa. I did them mostly in order, but these were a couple of stragglers. Their chocks are cut and ready to glue in-- And the backsides, as the chocks are being glued. The slight angle on the clamping of the clothespins works well with the angle of the chocks since they don't sit square in the frames-- Here's the stack of frames. After gluing the chocks in, each frame was given a rough inner and outer bevel, still leaving them plenty full, to allow for some minor inaccuracy in the shape of the frames, and for fairing. The chocks have been sanded down almost flush. The angle to the deadwood has been sanded in, which is different for almost all of them. Next, the paper needs to be removed from the frames, the frames marked for identification, and then the canted chocks sanded flush with the faces of the frames-- And here is the forwardmost full frame, and the forward cant frames with paper removed (still some bits around some of the chocks); chocks ready to be sanded smooth-- This is an exciting point for me! Soon I'll be ready to put the forward frames on the keel, including the bollard/hawse timbers, and see the bow take shape. Ron Edited March 1, 2023 by rlb druxey, Wintergreen, Trussben and 12 others 15 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted March 1, 2023 Share #88 Posted March 1, 2023 Great looking fries, Ron! Neat work so far. davec, rlb, CiscoH and 2 others 5 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted March 2, 2023 Share #89 Posted March 2, 2023 I cannot tell if you are doing this from the photos, but I like to print a second page for each frame and then set the pieces on the drawing and hold them down with scrap weights to be sure they are exactly right when gluing them together. (page 57 of volume 1) Allan KentM, davec, Mic_Nao and 2 others 5 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlb Posted March 2, 2023 Author Share #90 Posted March 2, 2023 Yes, Allan, that is what I am doing. Thanks for looking in! Ron mtaylor and davec 2 Quote Building: US Brig Oneida (1809) HMS Euryalus (1803) Completed: John Alden Sloop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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