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The Hayling Hoy 1760 by Seventynet - FINISHED - 1:48 scale - First fully framed model


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Really lovely build Ian. Maybe consider reducing the boxwood to almost a veneer and applying it over the holly?

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Thank you Greg, that’s an excellent idea. I will do that before I turn it over.

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Hello Jan, a very impressive and accurate work, great wood and very nicely coordinated in terms of colour.

Auf der Werkbank:

Corvette La Palme (L'Amarante) von 1744 POF nach Plänen von Ancre

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/32046-la-palme-by-tobias-136-pof/

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29843-le-coureur-1776-by-tobias-caf-148/


 

LE ROCHEFORT - Hafenyacht von 1787 1:36 von Tobias (Monographie von ANCRE)

 

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Thank you Tobias, very much appreciated. I’m afraid my work pales in comparison to yours. I hope to get back to work on the Hoy soon now that I’ve completed Toni’s highly distracting (NRG) capstan project. 🤓

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Greetings all,

 

Some progress to report. I installed the starboard wale using Castello. Now that I’ve completed the hull planking I’ve discovered how bendable and easy to work with Holly is. I should have used that as David’s instructions suggested. 
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Hull planking was straightforward except I ended up with two drop planks at the bow under the wale. Even though I had lined off the entire hill I let the bow planks use up too much room. I think it looks ok.

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The challenge with the fashion piece is to achieve a flush continuum with the hull planking. Don’t ask me how I know that. 😳

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I covered the area between the fashion piece, stem and wale with scotch tape then traced the boundaries with a pencil. I removed the tape and laid 6.3 mm planks on the sticky side then sandwiched the whole thing in a layer of tape. That formed a very stable structure that allowed my to cut and sand the assembly to the outline then disable and install each plank one at a time. This required very little fitting.

 

I moulded the tuck rail using 5mm Castello and a micro shaper I had lying around.

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Til next time.

Ian

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Good Day Shipmates,

 

Thanks for all of your likes, I greatly appreciate them. This is a small update. I finished planking above the wale with Castello and carried on with treenailing, which is a first for me. The guidance suggests only treenailing above the wale but I am sure that is to not discourage first time scratch builders from the operation. I support that idea! 😀 Anyway, I did not have any luck splitting bamboo skewers so I used [English] boxwood in the Byrnes drawplate. 
 

I have a final question for anyone that has an opinion for this. I am not convinced that my drop planks under the wale look right. I’ve added pencil lines indicating perhaps where I should have ended them which may (or may not) improve their look. 
 

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Thanks

Ian

 

 

 

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The photos are excellant.  The movie was about 1 second. Is that what you intended?

The pencil marks for the drop plank locations seem to look better but you best wait to hear from someone more experienced!

Alan O'Neill
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I agree that the pencilled drop plank ends would look far better as pencilled in, if you can bear to make the change. You are doing a fine job for a 'first' scratch build.

Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series  http://trafalgar.tv

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Alan,

Thanks for dropping by. I didn’t mean to upload that “movie”. I'll replace it when I'm home from the hospital’s lousy internet connection. Thanks too for your comment on the drop planks. All I needed was one comment to push me to the right conclusion but now that I have druxey’s opinion there will be no more hesitation.

Ian

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Thanks for your valuable guidance as usual druxey. It shouldn’t be too difficult to fix. I know it would bug me forever if I didn’t fix it.

Ian

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Good day,

 

Thanks for the helpful comments and all the likes. The drop planks have been extended which may look a bit better. Now it’s back to interior work.

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Until next time.

Ian

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Hi everyone,

 

Thanks again for the comments and likes. Since the last update I have installed the forecastle and quarterdeck beams and hatch carlings, coamings and ladders. The waterways were then installed along with the beam rabbets for the fore and aft planking. Finally I completed the bulwark planking. I am looking forward to building the windlass and capstan next.

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Until next time,

Ian

 

 

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Jan this is fantastic work, really beautiful woodwork.

Auf der Werkbank:

Corvette La Palme (L'Amarante) von 1744 POF nach Plänen von Ancre

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/32046-la-palme-by-tobias-136-pof/

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29843-le-coureur-1776-by-tobias-caf-148/


 

LE ROCHEFORT - Hafenyacht von 1787 1:36 von Tobias (Monographie von ANCRE)

 

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Thank you kindly Tobias. I draw inspiration from far superior builders such as yourself. 

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Jan you make me blush, thank you for the compliment, however it is also my first build.

Auf der Werkbank:

Corvette La Palme (L'Amarante) von 1744 POF nach Plänen von Ancre

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/32046-la-palme-by-tobias-136-pof/

 

https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29843-le-coureur-1776-by-tobias-caf-148/


 

LE ROCHEFORT - Hafenyacht von 1787 1:36 von Tobias (Monographie von ANCRE)

 

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Your build is excellent and even more impressive as a first scratch build.   I may have missed it on your earlier posts, but what power tools do you have in your shop?  The need for tools is often an argument some folks have for avoiding a try at scratch building.  I understand if there is a lack of space and tool costs, but I am convinced that once most folks finish a scratch build, albeit starting with a reasonable first choice vessel, (read- NOT a ship of the line), they will continue to do so, if for no other reason, they are no longer limited in the selection of vessels from which to choose.

Allan

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PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series.   Click on http://trafalgar.tv   There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time.  THANK YOU

 

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Hi Allan, thank you for the praise. I’ve never had a steady enough hand or simply never practiced enough with many hand tools to be satisfied with the results so I started my collection of power tools early on in this hobby. I also appreciate high quality power tools such as the Byrne machines (thickness sander, disk sander and table saw; my word they are good!), and Sherline lathe and mill. I use the Dewalt scroll saw and the Ridgid oscillating sander. I greatly admire those who instead rely on hand tools. 

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Thank you Giampieroricci! It has all been quite a learning adventure in my first scratch build. 
 

Ian

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Good day shipmates,

 

Thanks for the comments and likes, I really appreciate them. Since the last update I completed the windlass, capstan, hatch covers and bench.

 

I made the windlass almost exclusively on the mill. I wanted to see if I could use the mill for the ratchet gear and after several tries I think I was successful. One learning is that as the radius changes so does the calculation of the number of gears. For example while the guidance says to chisel two teeth per octagonal side, it does not mean that you can set the number of revolution steps to 16. In fact I had to modify it to 12 to achieve the 2 per side. Probably obvious to anybody else but just in case someone follows my example this is just a reminder. 🤓 The picture shows an earlier attempt.

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The capstan was also mainly done on the mill and lathe. I learned from the last windlass I made how important it is to score the welps for the chocks in exactly the right place. The table saw and slitting blade came in handy for this. From there I chiseled the notches at 20 degrees to fit the chocks which had been carefully beveled at the same angle.

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The bench build was unremarkable.

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I cheated when it came to the main hatch covers. Instead of carefully arranging 40 hatch pieces on a backing I glued two pieces of pear to aircraft ply and used the slitting saw to cut the pattern. I actually did it both ways but was underwhelmed with the result so I put them aside (in case someone calls me out to say my alternative looks too perfect).

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And a final photo:

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See you next time.

Ian

 

 

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Even the “ unremarkable “ bench build is remarkable. Beautiful work Ian.

Regards……..Paul 

 

Completed Builds   Glad Tidings Model Shipways. -   Nordland Boat. Billings Boats . -  HM Cutter Cheerful-1806  Syren Model Ship Company. 

 

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Thank you Paul and Mr French Bean. I just updated all of the photos to iPhone photos rather than the Paint saved jpegs which I was forced to use because of the crazy rotation issues. I followed guidance on this forum to take landscape pictures holding the phone so the picture taking button is always to the right.

Ian

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Hello again shipmates,

 

Thank you for your comments and likes. I start off with the rudder assembly.

 

The gudgeons:

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Hull straps:

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Pintles and rudder:

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Installed:

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Tiller:

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Gripe and knee:

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Tools used to carve scroll:

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Stabbing lines in preparation for carving:

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Finished knee (already beveled as per next photo); cheeks (not started yet) meet the scroll:

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The knee is tapered outwards and upwards so I diagonally seated the assembly on a tilting table and milled in the taper up to the scroll.

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Assembly glued in place after adding standard (between the stem and scroll):

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After some clean-up:

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Bow shot with starboard taper:

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Port view without scroll carved (not doing it: protecting my luck 😉😞

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And finally the cathead:

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Thanks for looking in and see you next time,

 

Ian

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Amazing work!

Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans)

1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
 

On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans)

 

On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury

 

Favorite finished builds:  1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia

 

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Thank you Chuck! Credit to you by learning from building my Cheerful!

Ian

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