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Various covers in place -- it was hard to find an angle that showed all of them.

 

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And a standoff view . . .

 

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Next up is constructing the aft fuselage.

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

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Hi Chris, I’ve spotted them all, but only by comparing to my 1/24 Airfix version. Do you have any tips on how you get the card parts to “dome” and do you fill the void underneath each part at all, to stop them crushing flat again?

Andrew
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4 hours ago, AJohnson said:

Do you have any tips on how you get the card parts to “dome”

 

Parts are dampened first and then carefully formed over a variety of tools -- whatever has the right shape and diameter.

 

4 hours ago, AJohnson said:

do you fill the void underneath each part at all, to stop them crushing flat again?

 

Nope. I always have to be careful afterwards about where my forgetful fingers grip the thing.

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

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Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop

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30 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

 

Nope. I always have to be careful afterwards about where my forgetful fingers grip the thing.

That's what would be my undoing, I'm forever holding things on kits that result in broken/bent/squashed bit! 😏

Andrew
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The more I see the, more I want Micheal Caine and Robert Shaw as my wing men! Those naughty Yellow  Nose’s! (Apologies to non BB film fan’s!)

Andrew
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HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64)

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Vanguard Models (1/64) :HM Cutter Trial , Nisha - Brixham trawler

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31 minutes ago, AJohnson said:

The more I see the, more I want Micheal Caine and Robert Shaw as my wing men! Those naughty Yellow  Nose’s! (Apologies to non BB film fan’s!)

One of my favorite airplane movies, I watch at least twice a year. 👍

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Yes one of the best war movies of all time...  It shows the period of the RAF Fighter Command's greatest victory... Going from a hairsbreadth from extinction to eliminating the Luftwaffe from the skies of England....

 

Very few true stories tell such a tale.... Many do not know how close the Germans came to complete air superiority over England in 1940-41....

 

Their finest hour....

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It is, for me, one of the best filmed flying movies. It was filmed in the late 60s and they had a B-25 with wide open windows flying the cameramen. Technology has made quantum advances since then.

 

I've studied that campaign as part of my Air War College courses. The courses brought out the points EG stated.

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And the seen towards the end  when action stations  does not sound  and no bombers/escorts  are  on the boards  - epic moment.

 

OC.

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30 minutes ago, Egilman said:

Very few true stories tell such a tale.... Many do not know how close the Germans came to complete air superiority over England in 1940-41....

They were what.... a month away from knocking the RAF out of the air if I recall correctly?  Hitler being Hitler changed the plan almost overnight to bombing cities instead of the RAF.   

Mark
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29 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

They were what.... a month away from knocking the RAF out of the air if I recall correctly?  Hitler being Hitler changed the plan almost overnight to bombing cities instead of the RAF.   

My parents where both serving  mum in the  ATS  and Dad in the RAF, but  both their parents  spent many days/nights  in their airaid  shelters  with  near by houses getting hit.

 

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28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

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Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

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3 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

My parents where both serving  mum in the  ATS  and Dad in the RAF, but  both their parents  spent many days/nights  in their airaid  shelters  with  near by houses getting hit.

 

OC.

It was a fatal strategic mistake to shift to bombing the cities.

 

I'm waiting to see what Chris does next on the build and am surprised by the detail.

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It all came down to those radar stations along the coast, the Germans didn't know what they were at first but figured they had a lot to do with the success of Fighter command downing so many bombers that they decided to launch a campaign against them and vector fighter sweeps against the airfields where the Hurricanes and Spits were being flown from... towards the last few months, fighter command was down to less than 50 flyable crates, and yes they were crates mostly hastily repaired birds barely able to fly.... Every day the JU88's & 87's were bombing the radar stations... The Luftwaffe would knock the towers down and the RAF Fighter control were putting them back up, Finally the Luftwaffe had them where three of the sites were offline.... They ran out of parts for the antenna sets.... Which meant that Fighter command was unable to vector what few fighters they had against the german bomber formations...

 

It was the darkest hour....  one more week of bombing the radar stations and sweeping the fighter fields would have left the island without any early warning or defenses in the air at all.... Then, inexplicably, Hitler ordered them to concentrate on the cities, predominantly because of the reduction in resistance the RAF was putting up... Not realizing that he had basically won the fight his reasoning was that bombing the cities would reduce British resolve to fight... One of the biggest miscalculations of the war... He gave the RAF a reprieve and a chance to rebuild, while at the same time hardening British resolve....

 

A lot of historians consider the war lost for the Germans from that point on.... And to be honest it was.... It was the RAF's finest hour....

 

Three years later, the Germans found out for themselves how effective fighter sweeps & a concentrated bombing campaign were against an airforce... The allies were using the same tactics that almost won the Battle of Britain for the Germans... 

 

Everyone likes to think it was the Royal Navy that kept the Germans out of England, tactically, no it wasn't, it was failing to secure air superiority that kept them out of England... They had it in their grasp and failed to realize it...

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2 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

It was a big strategic mistake to shift to bombing the cities.

Coventry  was really  hit  hard  so much destruction.

 

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HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

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5 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Coventry  was really  hit  hard  so much destruction.

 

OC.

Coventry was raided 17 times during the war the first in June '40, the last raid being in June of '42.... When people talk about the bombing of Coventry they usually mean the raid of Nov 14/15th 1940... It was the first major firebombing of a major city during the war... (the Germans applied the same tactics in this raid they used to bomb Guernica during the Spanish Civil War) The bombing raid lasted for over 10 hrs continously... some 800 cannister bombs containing over 30k incendiaries were dropped over the city after an estimated 1200-1600 High explosive bombs ranging between 50kg and 500kg in weight. (roughly 500 tons)

 

There is a story that the RAF was warned of the mission from Ultra intercepts and Churchill decided not to do anything about it to keep the decryption of Ultra messages secret, but the conspiracy is completely unfounded...

 

The Ultra intercept happened Nov 9th, it was not decoded until Nov 11th and was concerning radio vectors that the Germans were using to guide bombers to their targets... It indicated three potential targets, Coventry being one of them... All efforts to figure out what the actual target was failed... 1:00 PM the afternoon of the 14th the radio beacons were detected but no specific direction were indicated by them... 3:00PM they were jammed by countermeasures but it made it clear that Coventry was the target... There was no "pre-warning" and there was no alert given at that time...

 

At 6:15pm the first wave of Kampfgruder 100's HE-111's crossed the English coast but not riding the beam it could not be determined what their final destination was....

At 6:50pm it was decided that Coventry was the target and a yellow alert was sent at 7:02pm... The Yellow alert was upgraded to a red alert at 7:10pm and the sirens started....

7:10pm Kampfgruder 100 started releasing it's first bombs...

The raid continued until first light the next morning, 6:02am when Luftwaffe records state the last bomb was released....

 

The allclear was sounded at 6:17am.... The fires are reported to have burned for two days.... It wasn't the worst raid the Germans had committed, but it was the first major fire bombing raid of the war and as such it sticks in the mind.... And then there is that phoney conspiracy theory over Churchill deciding to allow Coventry to be bombed....

 

It was a devastating raid, the worst up to that point, but hardly the worst of the war is the truth of the matter...

 

PS: by mid '43, most of the damage had been repaired....

 

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Some of it was Goering's ego. Using Bf110 Zerstorers as escorts when then couldn't really protect themselves. Later, tying the the Bf109s to close escort of the bombers. Luftwaffe tactics were too restrictive; they had a good fighter, but employed it badly (luckily for the Allies).

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The vertical stabilizer has been added. It has a substantial amount of substructure, as can also be seen for the rudder. Unhappily for me, the stabilizer is noticeably crooked -- a fact I failed to notice until after the glue had well and truly set. This will subsequently require the judicious use of flattering camera angles.

 

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Incredible work if it was plastic  or wood  - but paper/card  - just can't believe it.

 

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28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

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Hey Chris, really nice job on this one.  I really love these planes with the yellow noses.  

 

If I could make a request - can you not do such a great job on them using card?  I think you're making us plastic guys jealous with how amazing your work is.

Mike

 

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3 hours ago, Landlubber Mike said:

If I could make a request - can you not do such a great job on them using card?  I think you're making us plastic guys jealous with how amazing your work is

 

Oh, Mike, Mike, Mike . . . if I were to share more of the work of the True Masters of this medium (a group that does not yet include me), we'd all quit and take up knitting. 😂

 

Anyways, I have hung the rudder. I canted it a bit to starboard -- that creates the visual illusion that the vertical stabilizer isn't quite so crooked.

 

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11 hours ago, ccoyle said:

 

Oh, Mike, Mike, Mike . . . if I were to share more of the work of the True Masters of this medium (a group that does not yet include me), we'd all quit and take up knitting. 😂

 

 

 

 

I'll go fetch the Admiral's knitting needles!  -  Woolie jumper for Winter Anyone? 😆

Andrew
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I want to step in here and defend knitters as I don't think there's anything "easy" about knitting.

 

 For one, there's hundreds of different types of knitting needles (of course my wife requires at least one if not two of each) two, there are at least a hundred different types of knitting stitches, and three, there's all the different types of yarns and their respective weights that go hand and hand with those hundreds of different needles. The real kicker is being able to visualize making a three dimensional object out of a single strand of yarn from one of the countless patterns that if placed end to end would stretch from here to the moon. :)

 

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1 hour ago, Keith Black said:

I want to step in here and defend knitters as I don't think there's anything "easy" about knitting.

 

Oh!  Well on second thoughts, down the pub it is! 🍻

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27 minutes ago, AJohnson said:

on second thoughts, down the pub it is!

Make it a black and tan for me, laddie. I'll be along shortly as I've got to pack away this wee bit of knittin'. ^_^

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Now there's  a challenge  - someone Knit a  plane/tank  or ship........

 

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28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

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