augie Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share #301 Posted September 30, 2013 No progress to report. BUT -- I did receive my order from Jeff at HobbyMill. It came in early, nicely packaged. And I must say that I'm impressed at the quality of both the wood and the milling. Never realized that all the pieces in a given package are supposed to be the same dimensions Great stuff and service. THANK YOU, JEFF ! mtaylor, gjdale, popeye the sailor and 5 others 8 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted September 30, 2013 Share #302 Posted September 30, 2013 Augie, I give you fair warning now, you will become addicted to Jeff's product, it's fantastic! Look forward to seeing your version of the great cabin floor in the future!! :-)) Enjoy the perfect material, you are now sliding down the rabbit hole! Ben augie, mtaylor and gjdale 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 30, 2013 Share #303 Posted September 30, 2013 I've been meaning to look into an alternative wood source.....the only wood I've been using is basswood , balsa, and obechi augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share #304 Posted October 1, 2013 Augie, I give you fair warning now, you will become addicted to Jeff's product, it's fantastic! Look forward to seeing your version of the great cabin floor in the future!! :-)) Enjoy the perfect material, you are now sliding down the rabbit hole! Ben I didn't order it for the floor!!!! I have a different idea for that. The big problem now is ---- what am I going to blame my horrible finishes on??? The crummy wood is 'off the table' Trussben and lambsbk 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted October 1, 2013 Share #305 Posted October 1, 2013 You are moving forward at an amazing pace! False deck and stern framing looks great! I can tell already she's going to be a beauty. augie 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted October 1, 2013 Share #306 Posted October 1, 2013 Ah! Real timber from Jeff at Hobby Mill. There is no hope for you now my friend! Whether you realise it or not, you are now an addict. Yup, his stuff really is that good! May as well give in now and succumb to the lure of the Darkside......Bwahahah! Rustyj, augie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted October 5, 2013 Share #307 Posted October 5, 2013 Aftermarket wood - I may be a noobie but I love me some real lumber. I got some pear, holly and box a little time ago and ended up using it for all kinds of things - this that and the other; LOVE IT!!! (You are now hooked though, I gaurentee it) I am trying to put together another order myself for upcoming ships in the closet. It is so nice to work with! -Adam augie 1 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 6, 2013 Share #308 Posted October 6, 2013 Uh-oh... 10-letter words, Hobbymill wood... and JP telling you to take the blue pill. You are destined for the darkside, my friend. Abandon all hope ye who have entered here. Alas, alack, and happy building. Next thing you know, it's the Jim Saw... I need to step outside and return to my own bit of delusion. popeye the sailor 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share #309 Posted October 6, 2013 Sorry Mark. I get my 'pleasure' vicariously watching you and the other 'darksiders' making each frame out of 12 individual pieces then placing 126 frames upside down into some unknown contraption for months. Others chopping down trees. Insanity, say I. Update tomorrow. trippwj, Sjors, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted October 6, 2013 Share #310 Posted October 6, 2013 that's the definition of insanity Augie : doing the same thing over and over and over and over ...... SkerryAmp, augie and trippwj 3 Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 6, 2013 Share #311 Posted October 6, 2013 that's the definition of insanity Augie : doing the same thing over and over and over and over ...... You forgot: "and expecting different results." Wait.. that's what I do. Uh-oh.... I'll get my coat. The 38 with extra long sleeves. gjdale, SkerryAmp, augie and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrieke Posted October 6, 2013 Share #312 Posted October 6, 2013 until I just googled this saying i didn't realise this saying has been around for awhile. I got it from Farcry 3 Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted October 6, 2013 Share #313 Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Good morning Augie, I may have to follow your lead and order some wood for my next build. I would like to use boxwood for my MS long boat. Edited October 6, 2013 by lb0190 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share #314 Posted October 6, 2013 And back to you Larry. You can't go wrong with some custom cut wood. It makes the kit stuff look like it was cut with a hand grenade. cookster 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share #315 Posted October 6, 2013 The beakhead and foredeck have been completed. The planking is 1/8 x 1/16 basswood. The finish applied was Minwax Pre-stain followed by Minwax 'Natural' stain. Rather then go with the usual WOP, I chose this time to go with a coat of flat acrylic brush on (Testors). Here is the inboard side of the beakhead. It will most likely be ultimately painted red to match the bulwarks: Here is the forward view of the beakhead and deck: You may notice that the deck has been treenailed. I use Chuck's method of simulated treenails. Holes are drilled with a #72 drill, lightly sanded, cleaned with the sharp point of an awl (gently) and then filled with this wood colored filler: After the filler dries it is lightly sanded and then undergoes the finishing process. The simulated caulking on the deck is made with a #2B pencil applied to only one side of the plank. I prefer the caulking to appear light. The finished treenails are barely visible impacting more on 'texture' then standing out in color. Overall, I like the appearance of these elements and they shall contrast slightly with the hull and deck planking Will now be moving on to setting the gun port sills and lintels. First I want to make up a mock cannon so there are no surprises down the road. Chuck suggested this on Syren ---- it worked. So I'll use it here. Have a few days of 'winterizing' to do so no updates for a bit. Everyone in the Northern Hemisphere stay warm Adrieke, Ferit, gjdale and 18 others 21 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted October 6, 2013 Share #316 Posted October 6, 2013 Great work. I'll get there one of these days. Andy augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted October 6, 2013 Share #317 Posted October 6, 2013 Augie, Can you take for me a close up picture from the treenails? For the rest it looks great ! ( i'm not excepting something else form you ) augie 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted October 6, 2013 Share #318 Posted October 6, 2013 Beautiful work, Augie. You continue to give us klutzes something to aspire to! augie and texxn5 2 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickmil Posted October 6, 2013 Share #319 Posted October 6, 2013 Augie, great work! It looks like you are competing with Mobbsie for fastest builder on this forum. I'm anxious to use that exact same method of treenailing. It appears that it's a lot of tedious work but in the end I like the look of it. augie and texxn5 2 Quote Thanks, Patrick YouTube Channel for fun: Patrick's Scale Studio Finished: Model Shipways US Brig Niagara Current: I Love Kit USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 "Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday" - John Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmay Posted October 6, 2013 Share #320 Posted October 6, 2013 Hello Augie, As all the comments say ,"nice work", We are also preparing to winterise ,have a good week.Edwin augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lb0190 Posted October 6, 2013 Share #321 Posted October 6, 2013 (edited) Beautiful work Augie. I like the tree nail method as well as the results! Edited October 6, 2013 by lb0190 augie 1 Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted October 6, 2013 Share #322 Posted October 6, 2013 Sweet! Ben augie 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted October 6, 2013 Share #323 Posted October 6, 2013 Nice! augie 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 6, 2013 Author Share #324 Posted October 6, 2013 Thanks to all. Your interest keeps me plugging away (not a pun for the treenails). The method is not hard but is really not a great substitute for drawing wooden nails and pounding them in. Now THAT takes time. Now, my friend Sjors ------ I provide photos and what do you ask for? MORE PHOTOS!!!!!!! Well, I'm way ahead of you. If you go back to page 6 you'll see a close up of treenails in the keel. Same exact thing except those are with a #70 drill. popeye the sailor and Sjors 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 6, 2013 Share #325 Posted October 6, 2013 Sweet work, Augie. I guess I need to find more time to get to MSW just to keep up with you and Mobbsie. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPett Posted October 6, 2013 Share #326 Posted October 6, 2013 Ahoy Sors "They are not treenails. They are bolts (simulated)." Quote On with the Show.... J.Pett “If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill) Current build: MS Rattlesnake (MS2028) http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/ Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762 On the back burner: 1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/ Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 6, 2013 Share #327 Posted October 6, 2013 some nice looking progress there Augie...the beakhead looks very nice one of these days, I'll have to try treenailing..... augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 7, 2013 Author Share #328 Posted October 7, 2013 Ahoy Sors "They are not treenails. They are bolts (simulated)." :D .......ya got me, JP! Just trying to make my photos multitask. I wasn't aware MSW had a court reporter on staff writing all this stuff down. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkerryAmp Posted October 7, 2013 Share #329 Posted October 7, 2013 Really nice Augie! I myself like the poke hole and fill method of treenailing - and I love that hobbylite stuff. As usual - your work is Faaaaantaaaasstic! Nice and clean and easy on the eyes! Looking good man, lookin good. -Adam augie 1 Quote -Adam Current Builds Santa Maria - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB MayFlower - Model Shipways (5/32"=1') POB Blue Shadow - Mamoli Revolutionary War Brigantine. (Fict) (1:64) POB (Recommissioned as the Kara June) On The Shelf Waiting so Patiently USRC Ranger - Corel (1:50) POB 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways (1:4) POF La Nina - Artesania Latina (1:65) POB U.S Brig Syren - Model Shipways (1:64) POB Completed Builds Phantom NY Pilot Boat - Model Shipways (1:96) Solid Hull Decommissioned Builds (Time and conditions were not good to these. They have been cancelled =( ) Willie L Bennett - Model Shipways (1:32) POF USRC Harriet Lane - Model Shipways (1:128) Solid Hull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptCraig Posted October 7, 2013 Share #330 Posted October 7, 2013 This is looking immaculate Augie! I am amazed at how fast this is coming together. I like the treenail idea as well. It looks easier then using brass wire or a treenail puller to get the right diameter... augie 1 Quote -Craig It's never too late to turn the tide... Current Build- King of the Mississippi- Artesania Latina- 1:80 Scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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