rafine Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share #721 Posted June 17, 2014 Thanks so much Ken for your overly generous thoughts. Perhaps you should make the suggestion to Expo that I get paid . Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share #722 Posted June 17, 2014 Thanks very much Thomas. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wq3296 Posted June 17, 2014 Share #723 Posted June 17, 2014 Thanks Bob. wq3296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted June 17, 2014 Share #724 Posted June 17, 2014 Looking really sweet Bob! Remco Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share #725 Posted June 17, 2014 Thanks so much Remco. I appreciate your interest. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted June 18, 2014 Share #726 Posted June 18, 2014 WOW! A lot of people seem to think my idea of Model Expo using Bob's model for their Essex kit and paying him for it is a good idea. Now we all have to is petition the ME folks. mtaylor and Martin W 2 Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Pilot Boat Mary of Norfolk Completed Builds: Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samueljr Posted June 18, 2014 Share #727 Posted June 18, 2014 Bob, Really nice work. You're doing an outstanding job of taking the details from the kit and recreating them in better woods. It’s a shame (as we’ve discussed) Expo didn’t let me include the deck framing as I had originally intended. But (it’s understandable) they have to pay attention to cost (both production and retail). By the way are you using the framing drawings I sent you a while back that I did for the kit? As they were never produced I was wondering. It seems there is a “call” for you to do a kit…. I’m currently just starting two for Expo. They’ll be announced in the near future. There’s a number of different aspects you might want to get involved in; Manual – ESSEX is 15 chapters (about 100) pages and over 250 photos. I actually wrote about 30 more pages (edited down) and took over a 1,000 pics. Of course we can only hope the printer doesn’t mess up the runs (twice) like they did with ESSEX. I hope you’d be open though to taking the countless phone calls and emails helping out builders who were unfortunate enough to get a bad manual as I have. Castings – Expo’s out-source company only destroyed all my masters once, so I only had to go back and start over once (at my expense). Photo-Etch – The production company wasn’t bad to deal with depending on whether they thought they could produce the etch images. Funny thing is on a couple of occasions one rep told me they couldn’t do a part and believe it or not they had already produced it and it was installed on the proto-type already. I actually had to send them photos to prove it! Drawings – do you know how to use a cad or drafting program?................. Pay – After taking into account the 1,000’s of hours (literally needed) to design and produce a proto-type and it’s materials and manage the process, after taxes and out-of pocket expenses it comes down to a few dollars an hour………….. I’d be happy to split that with you. Let me know – LOL! Sam mtaylor, Martin W and gjdale 3 Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samueljr Posted June 18, 2014 Share #728 Posted June 18, 2014 Bob, Sorry - I forgot the obvious (if you're going to join the kit design team with me) We can only hope that the developmental/progress parts and drawings aren't produced and included in the kit (on the wrong size stock to boot)! Sucks when that happens (at least that's what I hear)............ Sam Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share #729 Posted June 18, 2014 Thanks for the helpful commentary Sam ( I think ). Seriously, I hope you don't think that I have ever harbored any such desire, particularly with regard to Essex. I will remain a happy model builder who appreciates your help and your praise. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samueljr Posted June 18, 2014 Share #730 Posted June 18, 2014 Bob, Nothing but praise. As I've said here a number of times your work is outstanding and I consider your example of ESSEX a vindication (of sorts) of the kit. We all know that Expo isn't going to release a kit with high end woods (wouldn't even consider it) so it's great to see the design detail/aspects of the kit produced in better stock. And there are always design limitations based on production and retail costs. There isn't a single kit available (not one) from anybody that can't be upgraded or improved upon. ESSEX is no different. The offer to join the "Design Team" is just a little tongue in cheek humor. I've often remarked that every builder should have to design a kit once in their life - they'd be much less inclined to comment on any kit after having done so. None the less there's always going to be a little "arm chair quarterbacking". That's what makes a community like MSW so great - the exchange of ideas and opinions from litteraly around the world. The issues with ESSEX's production are well known and as the Designer I have to except responsibility (whether they are my issues or not). ESSEX was a "perfect storm" of sorts - a company in transition, a new designer (I had to take on a frigate no less - couldnt be some type of single pole fishing dingy - lol) As with most things through experience I'm managing the new project(s) differently. Once the projects are public I'll chronicle the process (warts and all) here for all to see. Keep up the great work Bob. As always if there's anything I can do let me know ( still have to get the figure head out to you - I haven't forgotten) Stay well - Sam rafine and mtaylor 2 Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted June 18, 2014 Share #731 Posted June 18, 2014 Good clean and very accurate modeling Bob, love that joining work Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share #732 Posted June 18, 2014 Thanks so much Nils. I'm really enjoying your Pegasus, as well. Bob Mirabell61 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #733 Posted June 20, 2014 A few items of progress to report on. First, I added the minimal amount of deck planking that I'm going to do in the waist. As usual on this build, the planking is holly with pencil "caulking" and golden oak filler for "treenails". There is planking to frame the hatch and scuttle and to provide a base for the railings. Second, I made and installed the cap rail in the waist. This was done with boxwood strip bent to shape with a piece of half round molding glued to the outside edge and the assembly painted black. The molding extended beyond the cap rail and formed the first portion of the plank sheer molding. Third, I added the aft portion of the plank sheer molding, made from black painted half round. The forward portion won't be done until I do work on the head assemblies. Next will be the hatch, barricade and ladders in the waist. Bob Remcohe, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 17 others 20 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samueljr Posted June 20, 2014 Share #734 Posted June 20, 2014 Nice Bob (as usual) Wish I had left mine more open i hindsight Sam Quote ABSOLUTELY NOTHING UNDER DEVELOPMENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim I. Posted June 20, 2014 Share #735 Posted June 20, 2014 Exquisite as usual. Looking forward to seeing more Bob! - Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted June 20, 2014 Share #736 Posted June 20, 2014 Very nice Bob (as always). Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share #737 Posted June 21, 2014 Thanks very much Sam,Tim and Grant and the "likes". Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted June 21, 2014 Share #738 Posted June 21, 2014 Bob, I like the nice open style. Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share #739 Posted June 21, 2014 Thanks Michael. I wasn't sure, before starting, if I wanted to leave it this open or do a little more planking. I'm very pleased now with the look and don't intend to close it up any more. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remcohe Posted June 21, 2014 Share #740 Posted June 21, 2014 It's a joy to watch Bob, I really like the details you added to the deck and leaving most of the planking off to show this detail. Remco Quote Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 21, 2014 Author Share #741 Posted June 21, 2014 Thanks so much Remco. I have really missed seeing new progress on your Kingfisher. Bob Remcohe 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share #742 Posted June 23, 2014 Another few items completed in the waist. I've made and installed the hatch, the barricade and the two ladders.The hatch has a boxwood coaming and uses the kit laser cut grating. The barricade is made up from boxwood posts and the laser cut cross piece from the kit. Using the kit part simplified things considerably, because it has the square holes for the posts cut in it. I chose to paint this assembly black and pinned and glued it to the deck. The ladders are boxwood. This completes the work in the waist, with the exception of the waist rails which are very fragile and will be left for a later time. I'm now working on the quarter deck area, doing the limited deck planking and the bulwark planking. Bob Gahm, Aussie048, egkb and 20 others 23 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim I. Posted June 23, 2014 Share #743 Posted June 23, 2014 Bob, It looks great (also I am running out of superlatives to describe your work)! What type or brand of paint did you use for your waist rail? Thank you, Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uss frolick Posted June 23, 2014 Share #744 Posted June 23, 2014 "Captain Porter, your ship is ready, Captain Porter ..." Beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share #745 Posted June 23, 2014 Thanks so much Tim and Frolick. Tim, I have used the now mostly unavailable Pollyscale acrylics for years. I'm still trying to figure out what I'm going to do when my current supply runs out. Bob RedDawg and Mirabell61 2 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 23, 2014 Share #746 Posted June 23, 2014 This is unreal....... Wonderful Bob !! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share #747 Posted June 23, 2014 Thanks very much Sjors. Your interest is always appreciated. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BareHook Posted June 24, 2014 Share #748 Posted June 24, 2014 All I can say is "Wow!" You are pretty much confirming my eventual build of this kit. I cannot recall, but is your deck and framing supplied wood or upgraded? The decks look like Holly and not sure of framing wood Ken Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share #749 Posted June 24, 2014 Thanks so much Ken. The deck planking is holly and the framing is boxwood with cherry lodging knees. None of this wood was in the kit. Bob Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted June 24, 2014 Share #750 Posted June 24, 2014 Everything looks fantastic Bob, Superbly crisp, clean and accurate. I didn't know you can't get Pollyscale paint anymore. I'm running low on my stocks . Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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