HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64

[augie]

Thanks for the comment Mobbsie on the glue.  That thick CA is easy to handle and doesn't get all over the place.....and it IS strong.  Looks like Sjors will have clear sailing!

[Piet]

Looking pretty good Sjors.  I agree with Popeye but in case you make your rivet impressions just omit the sides that'll be covered with the next plate.  Oh, I understand that this getting nit-picky but it's just a thought.  In the overall scheme of things your coppering job will look just marvelous.

 

Cheers,

 

[src]

Hooo-ie Sjors! Thats a project for sure. 

Looking at the run of plates as a row of planking, what do you do for stealers and drop plates (planks?)

sam

[Trussben]

As Grant said, only a few thousand more, couple of weeks work for you Sjors!

 

Ben

[Beef Wellington]

Good start Sjors, I know exactly where you are.  One thing to mention just in case.  The plates pick up finger prints easily which are not that noticeable, however, by the time you're done with coppering, they will likley have started to patina much faster than the clean one, guessing the acids in skin oils.  Its easy enough to clean off with a cleaner/polish (which will of course then patina again), but if you want to keep the look a gentle wipe down after each build session could remove the need for that.

 

One other point, as mentioned above, when you come to doing a gore line, flattening the nails can help the plates overlap a little more cleanly and avoid you having small gaps between the plates.

[Sjors]

Thank you all for the tips and trucs and the likes !

It seems I'll be on the right teach with those plates......

I have removed some plates and re-place them because it was not what I want to see......

Mobbsie told me that he has about 600 plates as left overs from his build, so I can continue with removing and re-placing       

If I'm to short of plates, he will send me his spare ones....Thanks for that Mobbsie !!!!!!!

 

@ Mobbsie,

 

Yes, I have not forget the brush handle.

Yes, I know the plates are thin.

Yes, I know that it is the first time for me.

Yes. I say Hi to Anja.

Yes, I'm enjoy the build.

Yes, I'll be careful with sharp knifes.

Yes, I'll be good.

Yes, Pffffffff

 

@ Wayne,

 

Thanks !!!!

By the time I'll be finished with the copperplates, someone else has finished two models......  

I can not help you with the copperplates because I'm to busy with other stuff.

Sending the rigging Gnomes to Kevin,

Making a new cover for the front door from bearskin for Augie's cave before the winter begins....

Go to Grant to see his Victory in real and make a road trip on that highway that is 1000 kn long in a straight line !

Take lessons from Sherry !

 

SORRY ......

 

@ Popeye,

 

Thanks also !

I will keep an eye on the rivets....

And I thought that it will be around 1700 plates.....

 

@ Frank,

 

At the end it looks like making ratlines 

I love that also !

 

@ Neptune,

 

Thanks !!!!

 

@ Grant,

 

I shall take an abacus and let you know how many there are at the end.....

 

@ Mark,

 

Don't jump to hard !

And please ,can someone taking a video-clip of Popeye and Mark with there Pom-Poms and making a hand stand with that ????

That will be the you tube hit of the year !!!!!

 

@ Sam,

 

I have to cut the plates just like if they are wooden planks !

 

@ Jason,

 

Thanks for the help !!!!!

I shall wipe the place after I place them.....

And with the goreline, I will take a look at that !

 

Sjors

Edited August 10, 2014 by Sjors

[Sjors]

An update and not a nice one   

No pictures because it is no use to take pictures of a demolition.......

Yep, when I got home from my work this afternoon I take a good look at the 4 rows that I have make all ready.

And I don't like it at all !

There are bumps ( fragile plates ) and some of them has an opening........

I know it is at the bottom and when she is on the cradle, you don't see it but I know it.

And that's for me enough.

So I remove all 4 rows and have to start all over again.......

But isn't it all about building ?

Re-do things all the time when it is not good ?

So Mobbsie, i think I need your spare plates......

 

Sjors

[JanV]

Sjors; relex and have a good whiskey and try a new attempt tomorrow

[lamarvalley]

Better to know and decide to redo it now than much farther along. I agree, have a scotch and reflect!

[gjdale]

Yep, great decision Sjors! It shows how far we've come as modellers when we can make these re-do decisions that easily. If you know in your heart that you won't be happy with it, then re-do now rather than regret later. Good for you. Now, my advice is SDH (Start Drinking Heavily)!!!! :P

[augie]

I'm sorry, Sjors....but if you're not happy with it, now is the time to re-do.  Have some Aquavite and relax!

[Piet]

Sad news Sjors, I really feel for you - - - I know from personal experience.  So, why should I be the only one who must do frequent re-do's, eh?     Join the crowd of the redo-ers 

The redone plates will be perfect and you'll be a happy camper.  Keep a stiff upper lip my friend but watch out for that scotch, it'll kick you in the hiny when least expected 

 

Cheers,

[mtaylor]

The next meeting of the Re-Doer's Club will be next Thursday at Sjors's house.      Ok.. seriously... you did the right thing.  If you're not happy with it, it will bug you forever.  

[popeye the sailor]

sorry to hear of the redo Sjors. you'll get it right.....I know you will!

[mort stoll]

We have  all been there.  I have many many times more then I want to admit, but the bottom line is that I am much happier with the redos than the initial do.

 

Your build is great. I enjoy it very much.

Keep up the nice work,

Mort 

[Kevin]

Sorry Sjors, welcome to my world of re-do's

[aliluke]

Hi Sjors

I admit to lurking in your build logs for a while. You are doing great work.

 

Getting the flow of the copper plates took me a while too. Mine is a smaller hull but I ripped off many plates on the first go until I got a feel for them. After that it wasn't too hard. Stick with it - they aren't wood but it is interesting to deal with different materials and you soon learn their character. I overlapped my plates to get the lines right but that has some other effects on the look. That said, cutting the plates to the lines would have driven me crazy - overlapping is easier.

[mobbsie]

You started fine mate so where did it all go wrong, once you've worked that out you wont make the same mistake again.

 

A wise decision to remove the offenders and start over, it's a pain in the backside but if your not happy with it it's gotta be done. It's not a job that can be hurried though so just take your time.

 

As the song says, " PICK YOURSELF UP, DUST YOURSELF OFF AND START ALL OVER AGAIN ".

 

The spare plates are here if you need them, just let me know.   :P  

 

By the way "pfffffffffffffffffffff" to you to  

 

mobbsie

[Sjors]

Pffffffffffffffffffffff for me and to all of you !

 

Thanks Guy's for the drinks.....

I'm that drunk at the moment that i get one plate and it looks like 10  !

I have re-decorate the house for tonight as I'm expecting a lot of re-do ers.......

Is there also a re-do er of the month ????????

 

 

@ Mobbsie ,

 

What goes wrong.....good question !

If I know that....I know what goes wrong....those plates are so thin......

And ( I think ) I want to do it to quickly !

My mistake ( again )

 

I have done nothing yet because of work ( every morning out of my bed at 4.15 AM 

When I'm building now it went also wrong and I want to do it right this time.

So I hope next week or the other week.

Then I'm off for 1 week ( 9 days without work........)

 

Sjors

 

[jastrząb]

Take your time. The plates are thin but make haste slowly

Regards,

Paweł

[lamarvalley]

Ahh, take your time. She, and the copper plates aren't going anywhere… 

Patience is a skill best learned  through the practice of being patient. --- yeah, I know what I said.  

[src]

Sjors, take your time and make it right, you've mastered ratlines, copper plates should come to you pretty easy.

 

Now, I want to know what universe you live in where a week is NINE DAYS????? I am taking vacation in the Netherlands from now on! 

Sam

[mtaylor]

Sam,

I suspect it like this:  Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.... or maybe Sjors has a secret power we don't know about?

[Sjors]

Mark knows it     

 

That's why he is a moderator Sam and we are not.......

 

The first few plates are back on   

A few 1000 more and it is finished !!!!!!

 

Sjors

[trippwj]

Sjors -

 

Here I am, 3 days left in my vacation, and you are preparing for another week off?? I want to work for your company - do they need drivers in Maine?? Pfffffffffffffffff

 

Good decision on re-doing the copper plates. Will wait (patiently) for the next pictures.

 

All the best-

[src]

 or maybe Sjors has a secret power we don't know about?

Maybe he can change the days of the week to Sunday1, Sunday2, Sunday3, Friday, Saturday1, Satuday2, Saturday3. Naturally the 8 hours we work on Friday would be compensated at the usual 40 hour rate.

Sam

[mtaylor]

Maybe he can change the days of the week to Sunday1, Sunday2, Sunday3, Friday, Saturday1, Satuday2, Saturday3. Naturally the 8 hours we work on Friday would be compensated at the usual 40 hour rate.

Sam

 

I like it even if I don't get to go to work anymore.

 

Mark knows it     

 

That's why he is a moderator Sam and we are not.......

 

The first few plates are back on   

A few 1000 more and it is finished !!!!!!

 

Sjors

 

Wait a second Sjors.  Which part do I know... the days or that you have a secret power?   :)  

[Sjors]

Thanks Guy's for the coffee when you are visiting my log 

 

@ Wayne,

 

I work to many hours so I have to be a week off......

 

@ Sam ,

 

Is there a law for to count like you did ????

 

@ Mark,

 

Both !

 

@ Lawrence,

 

A day or two ?

Why not make it a week or 2 .......

 

Sjors

[src]

@ Sam ,

 

Is there a law for to count like you did ????

Sjors,

Laws? Who needs laws? I say PPffft! to laws.

I dont know about a law, legal or physical, but sometimes I think my elected officials use similar logic to come up with "decisions" 

How are the gnomes doing with their new task, Sir "Man-O-Leisure?"

Sam

[newbuilder101]

Sjors, It's been a while since I checked on your progress. I stop by and what do I see?  Lovely copper plates on the hull and then pffffffffffff, copper plates gone from the hull! And they say women are always wanting change!          

Seriously though, I thought the plates looked really good, but I also know that if your not completely satisfied with them, then you'll be glad later on that you changed it and made it better.

Now.......pictures please 

 

Oh, and I'm trying to figure out how I can get one of those 9 day weeks off.  

Edited August 16, 2014 by Sherry