HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - FINISHED - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1:64

[HIPEXEC]

Beautiful!

[JanV]

I am impressed Sjors, looks very good

[riverboat]

Beautiful!!!! job Sjors...... she looks great!

Frank

[robert1965]

very nice Sjors

[src]

Very impressive sjors!!

After doing this, would you do it again?

Sam

[edmay]

Hello Sjors, That's one of the best coppering jobs I've seen,very masterfully done.Edwin

[mobbsie]

Nicely done mate, she looks great.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[rafine]

Really great job on the copper Sjors. Not fun to do, but very satisfying when you're finished.

 

Bob

[Trussben]

Yep, agree with the consensus, very nice copper work.

 

Ben

[dragzz]

hello sjors  the work u have done on the copper is outstanding keep up the great work as all ways

[mtaylor]

 

Beautiful coppering, Sjors.  

[Piet]

Wowsy babe, that looks stupendous!   Fantastic job Sjors.

 

Cheers,

[popeye the sailor]

adding to the accolades Sjors.........superb work,  my friend!

[Sjors]

Wow what a respons !!!!!!

Thank you thank you thank you, Randy - Grant - Adam - John - Rich - Jan - Frank - Robert - Sam - Edwin - Mobbsie - Bob - Ben - Draggz - Mark - Piet and Popeye......

I think that I have to copper a few more hulls....so who have a hull that needs to be coppered ?????        

 

@ John,

 

You can find the link at the bottom of my posts.

It is the San Ildefonso.

I know that it's not the Fonz but the shorted they name Agammenon to Aggy so ( think it was Augie ) he shorted the San Ildefonso to the Fonz .

Cool guy and a cool ship     

 

@ Sam,

 

When I need to do another hull with copper ,then i will do it !

But I have to say it is boring.......

I think it is better when you are doing the coppering, you do something else in between.

That's ( in my opinion ) the best way to do it.

 

@ Bob,

 

Yes, I'm happy that it is done !

At the end you have to be careful that you are still concentrate with what you are doing .

Because you did so many that it is very easy to do it wrong.

 

Sjors

Edited September 23, 2014 by Sjors

[Bill Hime]

Just spent some time getting caught up on your build. Wow, I think there's enough copper on that hall to roof a Budhest  temple! Straight up good work my friend

 

Warm Regards,

 

Bill

[ScottRC]

Great progress on Sjors

[Sjors]

Thanks Bill and Scott     

 

@ Bill,

 

I know there is a lot of copper on her.

I have to make stronger locks at the door before copper thieves bringing me a visit   

 

Sjors

[trippwj]

Superb job on the copper, Sjors.  I will let you know when it is time to copper the Essex - will set aside the guest hammock for you when you come over to do it!!!

[Sjors]

Only the guest hammock Wayne ??????

I will help you with the copper....no problem !

 

Sjors

[Kevin]

lovely copper work

[Sjors]

Thanks Kevin !

 

But I'm glad that it is done.

Boring work .....but has to be done.

 

Sjors

[Sjors]

I know, I should not working or thinking about the Aggy but I have a question.

 

At the rudder post and bow post, I placed the copper tiles in vertical directions.....

All the other copperplates are horizontal......

Should I do that also on the posts or can it stay like this ?

If someone has an answer for me, please !!!!!!!

 

Sjors

[popeye the sailor]

the rudder should follow the hull Sjors......it's more uniform    if you've already done the posts in that fashion,  then I think it best to leave it.  having never coppered before,  it's hard for me to say........I would think it would be easy to do the stern if the keel itself was done in the horizontal fashion....you'll just continue up from there.   but from the keel to the turn of the bow.......from here I did a visual;)

 

I looked at the hull of the United States.........the stern post is blended into the rest of the hull....there is no distinguishing feature.....the keel is done in the same fashion as the hull.....horizontal.  it stays horizontal,  done in step to the rest of the hull....there is no vertical to it.  it's a plastic hull.....I know......and I'm not totally sure if it is correct.

 

if you wish to change this......do be careful.   you've done such a great job with your coppering,  I would be saddened to hear that it got marred by a mistake.

Edited October 1, 2014 by popeye the sailor

[Sjors]

Thanks Popeye,

 

On the rudder post I have put them vertical .

Not the rudder it self

Also at the bow post.

I just leave it that way.

I never get a clean cut when I place that also horizontal.

 

Sjors

[Beef Wellington]

Sjors - to be sure I understand your question, I think you are referring to the plates fixed on forward and after surfaces of the bow and sternpost (?), thats what I see in your photos.  The only place I found a diagram of was in the AOTS book "HMS Pandora".  This shows the horizontal copper plates bending round the faces.  I did my Snake exactly the same as you, as the solution is the simplest, and it also give you a nice edge,  I thought at the time that the copper plates were too thick to be able to give a sharp enough 90 degree bend.  That could look good using thinner tape maybe.

[Sjors]

Jason,

 

You just understand what I'm saying       

Also for me it's to difficult to bend those plates, just what you are saying also.

I don't get an edge of 90 degrees.

So I'm happy with it and I keep it this way 

For the rudder itself ,I'll do the same thing.

Only where the hinges are coming , I paint it the copper colour....

Otherwise I've got problems with those hinges ( if that's the  correct word for it )

 

Sjors

[Piet]

Hoi Sjors, "technically" it may not be accurate but at this stage in your build it's probably a wise desision to leave well enough lone.

 

For future reference - - regarding not getting a sharp 90 degree bend in the copper plates, try using  a small thin steel ruler on the reverse part of the plate and bend the plate up against it by using another flat thingy that can be a piece of hard wood or steel.  I would probably use a flat-nose or duckbill pair of pliers that have real sharp edges.  I made mine that way from an old pair on my bench grinder and I get real good 90 degree angles in brass sheet stock.  I do help it a little by tapping the brass against the pliers.

A little practice doing this will get you great results.  Copper is soft and there should be no reason for not getting perfect angels.

 

Hey, I could hop on over and demo it for you    I could also make a few demo pics to show what I mean.

 

Cheers,

[GTM]

Hej Sjors,

 

Really great copper work !!

As for your "edge question", I also might have a tip you can use next time or try out on the rudder.

 

When I have to bend ”sharp edges on copper plates I use a (steel) ruler and a “sharp knife”.

I cut a line on the plate with the knife and bend the plate on my clamping device very easy into 90 degrees angles.

 

You might want to try this out and see how it goes with the copper plates ..

 

Note: Be careful not to bend the metal “back and forth” too many times as it will break easily on the line.

I added a few pictures to illustrate this technique .. (I hope you don’t mind..) just let me know and i will delete them..

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2014 by GTM

[augie]

Fantastic work, my friend!

[Sjors]

Piet and Theo,

 

Thank you both !!!!!

 

@ Piet,

 

You are always welcome....

My house is your house and when you are gone it will be mine again     

Theo shows me a good way to do it !

 

@ Theo,

 

Thanks !!!!!!!

Maybe you find the way how I should do it !

So please, let the pictures where they are.

It's not only for me but also for others......

I will use that when I'm gonna do the rudder.

That can take a few months because I wanted to finished the Fonz first......

 

@ Augie ,

 

Welcome home and you see, I keep my promise....finish the copperplates before you are back   

Thanks for the good words my friend ( I'm happy that you are back again....(missed you ! )

 

Sjors