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HMS Montague 1779 by garyshipwright - 74-gun Alfred-class


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On building the items for the gun deck I have uploaded photo's showing how I made my capstan's. Not quite as advance as Ed's, but am sure that several years in to Montagu life she just may of had those types. In ones travel of building and researching a ship of the line, one runs in to some interesting items such as the fore jeer capstain, and it being lower down in to the capstain room on the orlop deck.  Just to give some of you a heads up on this item, while researching this capstan, most of the contracts I have on them state that this capstain was lowered down to the orlop deck to make room for the long boat.  Steel shows this in his plates and talk's about it in his book Steel's Naval Architecture of 1805. After spending time trying to figure out how it worked I built what I thought was a good repersentive of it.  Did they really lower this down, I do believe so, why else would they have built it this way.

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Beautiful, Gary. What do you plan to do about decking? So far, it looks like you are leaving it out to be able to see below.

 

I like your process for making the whelps on the capstan - very precise.

 

I used darkened glue on the facing on the bitt crosspieces to show the line. I can see your line in the pictures and I am sure it is more visible in real life.

 

Great, as always, to see your posts.

 

Ed

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Hi Guys and thank you very much.

Hi Ed. As far as the deck planking, I am planning on leaving off as much as possible accept for some that the cannon's will sit on.

 

As far as the next item, I wanted to show the main mast partner which was a heavy bulk of timber. Most of how this part is laid out came from David's A book the The Fully Framed Model, The Swan. Any way it was one of those items that not only was interesting but a lot of fun to make.Montagu is made up of 8 pieces of wood and the photo also include parts of the chain pumps, which is part of fitting it. Hard to do one with out the other.

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Gary,

 

You folks on the scratch built side always leave in awe. Your French ship is so beyond useful adjectives. Are you, or will you also be using the Jean Boudroit books for reference?

 

Regards,

 

Michael

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Gary I can only echo what others have already said. It is interesting how precise yet organic your work appears almost as if it had grown all of its own accord.

 

Michael

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Thanks guys your words mean a lot and does help one to keep going. As far as the next update it is the ledges and carlings of the gun deck. As with every thing else it does take awhile to get all the parts and pieces installed.

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Great work Gary, a pleasure to see!, Daniel

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Impressive joinery.  One small mistake and you have to start all over again.  Bravo on your patience and steady hand.

David B

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Lovely and precise work Gary.  You're moving the bar on us.... up of course.  :)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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GüAU! (spanish translation for WOW) ...

 

Love the work you made on the orlop beams! I need a SherLine mill or some thing to go to such a kind of detail. How you did it? Did you use a mill for that?

 

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Regards.

 

 

Daniel.

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Well guys, after finally getting all the gun deck ports cut in and the framing of the gun deck done I went to work on the out side of the hull installing the main wale. Montagu main wale was four strakes of 8 1/2 inch thick planks, with the upper two being locked together and the bottom two being locked together. When I mean locked together am talking about a hook anchor type of plank. Peter Goodwin shows this in his book but I also found to primary plans of it one being the Elizebeth and ,Montagues. I like Elizebeth wale and also her other planking that Montaguplanking is taken after her. Being that I don't have any ideally of which type was applied, felt safe following her's. Now when it came to the thickness of this planking I decided to do it in two layers both being applied hook anchor type planking. Doing the first layer like this gave me a chance to practice before I layed the outside layer and once it was done,it was dyed black and given a coat or two of wax. I wanted a black wale but didn't want to mess with ebony and one can not tell the difference when you look at it with ebony laying next to it. Another one of those interesting items that was fun to do.

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Gary, that last picture really captures the lines.  The model just keeps getting better - if that's possible.

 

 

Ed

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Hi Gary, I am just returning from a longish holiday to find the impressive progress you have made.  As many of our more distinguished commenters have stated; this is exemplary work mate and an absolytely delightful model.

 

cheers

 

Pat

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Thanks every one. After doing the wale on the outside, I turned my attention back to the gun deck and started to install the water way and the spirketting. As far as the shape of the stakes, their shape came from the Elizebeth plan. Does seem that I am sort of stuck on the gun deck and hopfully once the cannons are done things will starte to move along.

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Once the spirketting and water way was done I installed the 12 standand's per side according the the research I had. She really had 12 per side, and one at the stem and another one at the stern. They were used to strengthening the sides, and for resisting an violent or sudden shock. One thing is for sure, they will sure make installing the upper deck hanging knees a very interesting item to install.

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Gary,

 

Those look fantastic and I'll bet they were a real bear to make - something you modestly neglected to mention! Well played Sir! :)

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Gary,

 

Just wonderful work on the spirketting, water ways, and standards.  The joinery on the spirketting is remarkable.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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