Licorne by mtaylor - 3/16" scale - POF - TERMINATED LOG

[druxey]

Because of the bow flare, the plank does have to be spilled to sit properly. As it twists, it will widen considerably in order to keep the planking run looking 'sweet'.

Edited January 10, 2014 by druxey

[augie]

If it's any comfort, I know what you're talking about.  (Still takes me a second to remember your photos are 'upside down').  Confed has a similar, but much less pronounced, outward flare in the same area of the fo'csle.  But because it's much less pronounced, it is handled by letting the planks follow the lower run and then sanding the top curve to gently blend in to the sheer line. I also spiled it slightly.  I think this is where you are at now.  I remember thinking that, if my situation were any more pronounced (like yours is) it would be a hell of a problem.  And I had the added advantage in that I knew that from the point at which the flare began I'd be painting upward to the rail so some 'creative sanding' blended everything together.

 

That said, I really like Hahn's solution with the wider plank.

 

Good luck Mark.  I know you'll figure it out.

Edited January 10, 2014 by Augie

[texxn5]

Ebony is beautiful, but very difficult to work with....good luck with it Mark...

[mtaylor]

Thanks one and all....  I'm still thinking something similar to a stealer method since it shouldn't be just one very wide plank.  Druxey, you're right though.  And no matter how I look at it, I'll have to spile at least one plank. It might even take 3 planks forward to cover that flair area.

 

I'm still testing, filing, and mentally working on the final solution.

[src]

Mark,

Following along quietly here, learning.

How did the ebony react to soaking in acetone? I have never actually soaked exotic woods lik that before, just liberally wiped them down a couple of times and then immediately glued them up.

Sam

[Shazmira]

Looking forward to seeing the fix Mark, I am sure it will be something I will want to remember for for future builds, so don't leave me hanging too long

[mtaylor]

Sam,

Wiping, I think, would be preferred.  The piece I soaked still has the acetone smell is now out in the garage. 

[src]

Mark, did it say straight as it dried?

Sam

[Moonbug]

Great looking build.  I'll keep watching with interest.  I'm still mystified by scratch builds.

 

- Bug

[mtaylor]

Sam,

 

It's still straight.   Once there's no smell, I'll try using it on something.

 

 

Bug,

 

It's big mystery to me also.  

 

 

Meanwhile, back in the shipyard.....

I think, hope, pray, that I've hit on the final solution to the exterior forecastle bulwarks.  After realizing that doing the same thing over and over again again expecting different results is insanity, I went for something just a little bit different.  A combination of spiling and stealers!  No, wait... I was doing that. 

 

Change the wood.. YES!!! Change the dimensions of the wood... YES!!!

Went from plum which I wasn't plum crazy about anyway to cherry.  Change the dimensions from 4" X 9" to 2" X 12".  The wood is more flexible and less grainy than the plum and a nicer color.

 

After playing with some designs and feeding the scrap box, there's now one main strake that runs the 30 feet of bulwark.  And two stealers to help make the transition in the flair.   The next set pics (in the next several days) will show it fitted and glued in place and hopefully sanded.    By the way, try to ignore the pencil marks.... Oh...I guess I better make the one for the other side while this is still fresh.

 

[WackoWolf]

Nice idea Mark. Now we will be waiting to see them install. Glad you finally figure out what to do since I know it must have been driving you nuts.

[Moonbug]

Good solution - can't wait to see it in place.

 

- Bug

[mtaylor]

I have to learn to stop re-inventing the wheel.  There was reason why Hahn did it the way he did it.  I've scrapped out all previous methods and did his way.

 

First, I spiled a piece of cherry (2 feet wide X 4 inches thick).

 

Then made Mr. Clamp to get the curve.

 

I soaked the wood for about 12 hours and clamped into place.  I ended up with all the curves and bends in the right places.

I can live with this.

 

Now to go glue them in place and get the ebony trim fitted and fixed into place.

[WackoWolf]

Mark,

 

    I like the fix, your dong an excellent job. I can't write that much since I am in a internet cafe in China and the dam keyboard sucks big time. Keep the pictures coming, I will always be watching.

[mtaylor]

Done... on the port side at least. I'll finish up the starboard side and then attack the quarterdeck outer bulwarks.  Thank heavens they're not as radically shaped.  I do, however, really hate macro as I see some things that need fixing before final sanding, like a few gaps in the planking.

 

[Jim Lad]

Nicely done, Mark.

 

John

[DSiemens]

That was a crazy bend.  Well done.  Oh and what gaps are you talking about my untrained eye didn't see any.     Great work Mark.  

[mtaylor]

Thanks John and Daniel and those who "liked".

 

Daniel,

Trust me.. they are there. 

[NenadM]

Marc

 

Looking your topic I say to myself

• Watch and learn
• And the watch and learn again

[mtaylor]

 

Marc

 

Looking your topic I say to myself

• Watch and learn
• And the watch and learn again

 

 

That makes two of us.  I'm learning as I go.  I just wish learning wasn't so hard at times.

[gjdale]

Great result Mark. See, I just knew that you'd come up with an inspirational solution!

 

Gaps? What gaps? I see nothing! (To quote SGT Schulz......if you remember that show......)

[augie]

Nothing wrong with improving the tires Mark.  Just leave the wheel alone

 

Really nice work.  Thanks for sharing the problem, thought process and solution with all of us.

[Shazmira]

Gaps?!? You are seeing things my friend! Nice fix, and glad it all worked out for you...nasty bend, but the result is what counts!

[clloyd]

I have to learn to stop re-inventing the wheel.  There was reason why Hahn did it the way he did it.  I've scrapped out all previous methods and did his way.

 

Isn't that always the way...   You look at something and wonder why it was done that way, then when you try and do it yourself you find out exactly why.

 

Nice result.

 

Colin

[BANYAN]

Pedrsistence pays off -that is is serious shaping Mark with excellent results.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[mtaylor]

Thanks for the kind words everyone and the "likes". I finished the starboard side and it looks good to my eyes also.  And more importantly, both sides match when looking straight on. 

 

 

Great result Mark. See, I just knew that you'd come up with an inspirational solution!

Gaps? What gaps? I see nothing! (To quote SGT Schulz......if you remember that show......)

 

Thanks Grant, err...  Sgt. Schultz.  I've come to the conclusion that we are our own worst enemies as well as critics. 

 

 

Nothing wrong with improving the tires Mark.  Just leave the wheel alone

 

Really nice work.  Thanks for sharing the problem, thought process and solution with all of us.

 

Thanks for that Augie.  I'm not going to guarantee it's right but I did what seemed to work.  The shipyard is sometimes a lonely place.

[mobbsie]

 

Thanks Grant, err...  Sgt. Schultz.  I've come to the conclusion that we are our own worst enemies as well as critics. 

 

 

That's a great fix Mark, you've had some difficult angles there and you've found the right solution, sometimes it works in our favour to be our worst enemies and critics.

 

She's coming along nicely mate, keep it up.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[mtaylor]

I took a picture just check everything...  things need trimming up front and some cleanup but there's no rush until I get the beakhead deck and bulkhead installed in the future and get test for fit, etc. 

 

Oh..looks like it needs more sanding.. I think the expression is "pfffffff".

 

[NenadM]

 

Oh..looks like it needs more sanding.. I think the expression is "pfffffff".

 

 

Never enough sanding. Always seem to have it little more with little higher granulation of sandpaper ... 

[popeye the sailor]

looking sharp Mark.......but you might want to check that rail at the starboard bow.......looks like it crept up a little on ya.   I can't wait to see the hull completely planks.........she's gonna look sweet!