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Posted (edited)

All the fore deck fittings have been added to the ship, getting close to the hull completion, only the hamock cranes and netting to do.

 

Gratings added

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Plus bitts and stove pipe

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Completed fore deck

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Edited by Ray

Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Ray, I was going through your log again from the start.  Know its a pain, but would you be able to fix the missing pictures?  Think you had a wealth of information and would hate to see it go missing.  I'm sure you'd have my and many others appreciation.

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

Posted

Hi I did not know any pics were missing they all went on when the posts were added I will try and go through the log this week and have a look ( like now I quite often look in using my phone) and edit reload if I can. Does anyone now how plcs could go missing, that were ok when the post was first made ???

Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Ray,

There was a hiccup during some server maintenance: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/6021-server-maintenance-scheduled/

The problem has be rectified so it shouldn't happen again.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hammock rails and netting

 

The hammock rails were added, and .5mm thread threaded through the holes, the netting I used on my Pegasus build looked to small and fine, I did have some other netting that I had from the Pegasus build, the problem being it was red, but looked a better size, so I painted it mat black and it came out ok, so I decided to use it. My method for fixing the netting, is to line up the netting to the top edge and sew it to the rail thread as it the photos, then tie the netting into the bottom corners of the cranes, and then trim to to hight of the other crane upright and sew as the first side, and then just trim up and tie in any bits that need it, and final touch up the paint.

The hull is now completed with just a few touch ups required I will take some photos and add them soon.

netting

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cranes added

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netting finished

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Hi Ray,

 

Great job on the netting. I have a few questions. Do not remember if I asked you this earlier but have you considered mounting swivel guns on her tops, bow, and or the stern?  Are you satisfied with the kit supplied double wheels? They look somewhat thin.

 

Thanks,

Mort 

Current Build - Caldercraft Victory

 

Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William 

 

Waiting to be Launched -  Bluejacket Constitution

 

 

Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society

Posted

Mort

The Kit

In my opinion the kit could do with a bit of an update, as I believe Diana is a very early Caldercraft kit,I don’t know if the later ones are better, it is, not as good as Victory models Pegasus or The Lady Nelson that I have previously built,but it is not a bad kit, and upgrading some of the parts is not that expensive, I have just replaced the birch dowel with walnut for about £18, I am just starting the masts and comparing the plans to the drawings in The Anatomy of Ships “Diana” they do differ so I am going with the masts in the book which are more likely to be correct ?I have found there customer service very good,they replaced a couple of missing items quickly and with no fuss.

If you want to build a big Frigate this is still a great option but not for the beginner.

 

The ships wheels

You are right the wheels are two thin and should be twice as thick,they are very nice wheels spoilt by the thickness.

 

Swivel guns I might add some but if I do it will be towards the end of the build I fitted them last on Pegasus so they did not snag up when rigging

 

Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Hi Ray,

 

I plan on starting the Diana upon completion of my Snake, in about 6 months or so. I replaced the Snakes wheel. It is the same as the one in my Diana kit. Interesting everyone raves about Caldercraft's customer service but it took about a month for them to replace the cleats that the Snake kit was missing and I mailed them 6 weeks ago and emailed them 2 weeks ago asking for more blocks also missing from the kit and I have yet to hear from them. It is frustrating. After dealing with Model Expos customer service one gets spoiled.

I am going to take your advice, upgrade and order extra fittings and so forth from Cornwall Model Boats and not have to concern myself with Caldercraft  ever again. I have dealt with them in the past - Cornwall - and their response time is great.

 

Mort

Current Build - Caldercraft Victory

 

Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William 

 

Waiting to be Launched -  Bluejacket Constitution

 

 

Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society

Posted

The hull is now finished and below are some photos.

 

The next phase will be the masts and the rigging.

 

SERVING this is one thing that has unoccupied my thoughts, serving the rope is one thing I want to do on Diana that I did not on Pegasus,so how to serve the parts of the rigging that require it, like the top part of the shrouds and the forward ones where the sails can rub according the Rigging Period Ship models by “Lennarth Petersson”. I have been reading through logs to try and find the technique needed to do said serving,and fairly quickly came to the conclusion that the only successful way would to be to use a machine,and the way forward would to be to buy one of Alex’s ones The Machine 2.0 an unforeseen cost at $100 or £62 delivered, but having upgraded the decks, and mast material, is the only way to go, so one was ordered from his website,it came in only a few days nearly as fast as ordering something from home,( I have yet to put it together) pay pal does have its uses . The other item just arrived is black Guterman polyester thread 6 spools for £6 on e bay,

 

So mast making next and some serving practice.

 

Mort

I agree Cornwall model boats give a first class service I have bought all my upgrade materials and extra thread blocks & paint from them.

 

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Ray, I don't think you'll be disappointed with Alek's serving machine, on a cost per minute basis its a veritable steal I've found  :D

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

Posted

Ray

That is stunning. Master class. I look forward to the next phase but I'm sure you are revelling in the finish of the hull - you deserve to be!

Cheers

Alistair

 

Current Build - 

On Hold - HMS Fly by aliluke - Amati/Victory Models - 1/64

Previous Build  - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways

Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)

 

Posted

Ray - I think you should be very proud of your Diana. she looks great and will look even better once you get some string on her.

Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren

Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18

On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, 

 

Its a sailor's Life for me! :10_1_10:

Posted

Hi Ray,

 

Great job. You should be very proud. She is beautiful. I cannot wait to start my build.

 

I am in the process of making a list of what I may need in order to upgrade and replace  any potential part shortages for my Diana and Victory kits and am going to order from CMB.

 

A fellow NJ club member feels that I should use my existing spare parts as on the real ships not all of the blocks or cleats would match due to wear and battle losses. He's probably right but I want everything to match, not that anyone might notice.

 

A serving machine is the way to go.  A friend made me one from a few gears and a crank. It is really simple not that I could ever make one.

 

Mort  

Current Build - Caldercraft Victory

 

Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William 

 

Waiting to be Launched -  Bluejacket Constitution

 

 

Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society

Posted

beautiful built ship Ray,

 

also very nice pics, looking foreward to the rigging sequences...

 

Nils

Current builds

-Lightship Elbe 1

Completed

- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
"HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan 

-"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96  (scratchbuild)

-"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) 

"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

under restoration / restoration finished 

"Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50

Posted

Hammock rails and netting

 

The hammock rails were added, and .5mm thread threaded through the holes, the netting I used on my Pegasus build looked to small and fine, I did have some other netting that I had from the Pegasus build, the problem being it was red, but looked a better size, so I painted it mat black and it came out ok, so I decided to use it. My method for fixing the netting, is to line up the netting to the top edge and sew it to the rail thread as it the photos, then tie the netting into the bottom corners of the cranes, and then trim to to hight of the other crane upright and sew as the first side, and then just trim up and tie in any bits that need it, and final touch up the paint.

The hull is now completed with just a few touch ups required I will take some photos and add them soon.

netting

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cranes added

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netting finished

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fantastic work, I will take my cue to update the Unicorn

Hello

Gianni

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted

Not much progress as off late due to summer time,golf,fishing and two weeks holiday.

The lower masts and bowsprit will be made from the kit supplied birch dowel and the rest from the walnut upgrade dowel.

 

The masts

The bowsprit was made first,the shape obtained by fitting the blank into my unimat lathe, and then profiled with files and various grades of sandpaper,diameters checked with a micrometer, the lower masts were made as well, I cross referenced the mast dimensions on the plans with those in Anatomy of the ship Diana so if my masts look different from the kit plans that is the reason, although the differences are mainly on the topmasts and the topgallant.

The bowsprit has had the cleats ,saddles and bee parts added and painted yellow ochre lower masts just started.

 

Bowsprit

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Masts started

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Ray, nice neat start to the masts, looks like you've got everything very square.  Perfect timing for my question!  Looking through the Diana plans it appears that the bowsprit is just intended to fit into a enlarged slot on the bow.  This doesn't appear to have much depth and I was a little concerned that this would not be strong enough.  Is that a valid concern?  I was considering creating a proper hole and mounting the bowsprit on the gun deck to be a bit more authentic and give a bit more strength for the above reason.

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

Posted

Hi Jason you are correct the hole for the bowsprit is very shallow I have in mind to drill the end and insert a length of say 2-3mm dia rod and drill into the bowsprit hole to make a stronger fixing.

Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

Lower masts

The three lower masts were made up next profiling as necessary and the fore and main having the sides filed for the cheeks to be added, they were then painted and the metal bands added I used black plastic insulation tape as seen in the photos, the cheeks and front fish, were added and also the hounds and bibs which are in one piece they then had the wooling added and the bands to the top square section, I have also started making the tops.

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Tops

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

I have now completed making the rest of the mast parts,some differ from the plans as I have cross referenced them with AOTS Diana`s drawings, and I am going with the books drawings, for instance the fore mast, the top mast has no eight square section. All the sections were profiled in my umimat lathe, and all square or eight square sections

filed ,some square sections were built up as required.

As showed in the last photos the masts have been dry assembled (so if they look slightly out of line that’s the reason why).The lower masts and tops will be stepped into the hull next after the tops have all the required blocks fitted to them, and the rest of the mast parts held over for now, as I will next make and add the burton pendants and the shrouds to the lower masts before working up the masts.

 

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Masts Dry Fitted to Hull

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Tops

The tops have been completed and the rear rails added (I might add netting later) the tops have also had the blocks added as required. I did not like the kit instruction as to making the futtock shroud plates ,that hold the 3mm dead eyes so I upgraded using Amati ones as shown in the photos, which also included brass hooks as well these match the drawing shown in Rigging Period Ship Models.

Fore & mizzen tops

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Main top

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Top on lower mast

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Upgrade futtock plates

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted
Posted

Nice solution Ray, you're lucky that Amati have these in the correct size - I had scoured around for alternatives on Snake a couldn't find anything in the correct size so ended up making my own.  I'll keep definitely keep this option in mind!  Did you make your own stanchions to support the rail are are those kit supplied?  They look great as well, better than the 1x1mm wood option.

Cheers,
 
Jason


"Which it will be ready when it is ready!"
 
In the shipyard:

HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate)

Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700)

Finished:

HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)

Posted (edited)

Ray,

 

I don't know how I missed this log, but have just spent a very enjoyable few hours reading it through from the beginning.  What a marvellous job you are doing of her - you should be very proud!  I noticed that there are still a few pictures missing from pages 7 and 10 (no doubt from the server glitch a while back).

 

I look forward to following your progress from here.

Edited by gjdale
Posted

Thanks for the comments guys

 

Jason the stanchions were some spares, plus some from brass spruce, I think they look better than wood ones  would do and they are more robust. Stepping the lower masts now.

Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted

The tops have been fitted to the lower masts,and the lower masts have been stepped into the hull.

Next I will add the shrouds to the lower masts, and then possibly tie the ratlines to each mast, as I go along, so as to break up the most tedious part of any build.

 

Lower Masts

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Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

Posted (edited)

Rigging

I must admit rigging is not my favourite part of ship modelling, rigging Diana will not be as daunting as rigging Pegasus was, as the rigging is very similar, and I will be able to use Pegasus as a guide, and something to jog the old memory bank. The main difference will be that I will be rigging the lower masts before adding the top masts,and I will be serving ropes as required.

 

Serving machine , I assembled the serving machine and then did some practising to get the hang of it, so the rope is served and not wormed,I found the machine easy to get used to using, but it did tightened up a couple of times so I added flat washers between the posts and gears and a small amount of grease on the shafts it now turns very smoothly and has not tighten up.

 

The Burton Pendants were made first from served rope and they have been added to the lower masts.

 

Serving Machine

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Burton pendants fitted

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Edited by Ray

Ray

 

 Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48

 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler

 Completed  HMS Diana

Completed build The Lady Nelson

Completed Build HMS Pegasus

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