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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi John, thanks for the kind comments; I hope I can live up to those lofty ideals Eberhard, many thanks again. You have hit the nail on the head. Speaking with my 3D man he said exactly the same, the trick is to print vertically which is the intention. That said, we may also machine a version and do a comparison - appreciate the feedback. cheers Pat- 993 replies
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Great result O.C.; sometimes you have no option but to hold your breath and press on. cheers Pat
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Appreciate your feedback and recommendations Eberhard, and believe me we have given this some prior thought. The idea of printing the carriage bits is a good one and will probably go that way - should have thought of that myself As to the barrel, we wish to have some of the finer detail captured (cypher, gunlock and sight if possible). Turning will not allow that as easily. We have investigated various printing mediums etc and believe we can get a very good result from Ultra High Frosted Detail resin as can be seen here https://www.shapeways.com/shops/model_monkey?section=1%2F72+Ship+Weapons&s=0 I have had a ship printed (in parts) at 1:350 (HMAS Vampire) in this stuff and the detail is very good; even the gun barrels at that scale. We will not be using the same "home 3D" printer and medium we tried with the funnel but rather taking it to a local professional printer who can do this UFD printing a very reasonable price. I agree the stepping issues are a serious problem with regular 3D printing but this process seems to have nailed that problem if you look at what ModelMonkey is achieving (see his barrels on the above linked page)? Still open to discuss this if you think we are barking up the wrong tree and your valuable experience based suggestions/discussion are most welcomed. cheers Pat- 993 replies
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi Eberhard, thanks for looking in again. Nope these were machined from a large (and a small) brass ring (plug surround and a brass plug for the smaller). The outer is 26.5mm to the middle of the race, 2 mm high and 2.5mm wide; the inner is about 10.5mm to the middle. The guns will be a real challenge at this scale, especially to show those tiny wheels for excentrics etc. We have already decided to 3D pint in the barrel in UHD as it is a one-off gun. Not worth the while casting it as a coat of paint and it will look the same. The carriage I hope to make up in wood with most of the relevant detail attached. From my research I am fairly confident it is a 'Ferguson' carriage as per the earlier graphic; however the gun is a Blomefield 32pdr 56cwt rather than a Dundas modified Blomefield design (32pdr 42 cwt).- 993 replies
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Hi again folks; another small update. i am starting to add some gun details now and have completed milling and lather work for the pivot gun wheel races and the locking pins - the races are simply placed (not glued) to give an idea where they will fit so they are not centred to each other at the moment. The pins were frustrating to make as you can see they are very small - the bottom part is rough as that will be used t glue it into the deck. These pins are used to lock the lower carriage into one of the cardinal or intercardinal points. The idea was the gun pivoted on the rear fold down hinged clamp only with the forward one used to lock it on the bearing. The following photos show progress so far, and the graphic of the gun shows the pin arrangements. cheers Pat- 993 replies
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Nice build concept and great subject matter guys; I'll pull up a chair and watch with interest. Some great history in those V&W Class destroyers. cheers Pat
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Some good progress OC; coming along very nicely. cheers Pat
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OK that's done it - I need a better (BIGGER) dictionary to find further superlatives - I have run out of ways to compliment your work ED That is craftsmanship at its highest standard. cheers Pat
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Great looking model Dan; the details are superb. If you look up "the task lighting" section of the "rules of the road" for maritime navigation you will find the appropriate task light colours. The main task lights will need to have catered for - not under command, restricted in ability to maneuver, and perhaps under tow, which mandate combinations of white, yellow and red lights in specific sequences, arcs of visibility and spacing. That may help determine the lighting colours and placement and add some interest? The attached pics provide a summary of some of the task and nav light Rules, and an example light control panel, that while a modern version covers the same types of light requirements for older vessels under the 'rules'. the insignia/logos on the images show from which companies/organisations the graphics originate. I hope this helps you add some life to the lights cheers Pat
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Thanks for looking in and kind comments Dave and John - welcome back to the fray to both of you Some further small updates coming very soon. cheers Pat- 993 replies
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Looking good Mark; nice to have a laser cutter for accurately fitting parts. cheers Pat
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Great progress and looking great Patrick. Is it just the angle of the camera or does the flare of the hull (stbd side) at about the two-thirds back mark seem a little wider than for the port side? cheers Pat
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Looks great Dave; welcome back I hope you had stern words with those slackers in the dockyard cheers Pat
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Hi Rod, see my response to your PM for some answers, however, a couple of clarifying points for you to ponder. A ship is steered by a helmsman using a compass and is 'conned' on to the course to be steered by the deck officer (Officer of the Watch in RN terms) or the Captain (whomever has the control of the ship). I think it was this way even back then also. The helmsman does not need to see ahead but does need to see the sails (to keep them filled) and have a clear view of the compass - seeing ahead is a bonus So a large binnacle would be okay. The style, design or size of the one used in Endeavour will probably never be known. I went with the larger one (Marquardt) as this being a ship of exploration and, when being refitted, potentially for survey as well, I believe the availability of two compasses a necessity. That does not mean your interpretation is incorrect and may well have been one a possible fit. I only raise my point for consideration. cheers Pat
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You always achieve such clean crisp joints Chuck; very impressive. Love the wood tones! cheers Pat
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Another warm welcome from downunder Greg; interesting genealogy and one you can be justifiably proud of. cheers Pat
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