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there are folks who build models...........and those who model..........you are definitely the latter! beautiful work Nils! the WOW factor of this build , is WAYYYYYYYYYY over the top!
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
popeye the sailor replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
guess they don't paint under there Marc....... but.....you can see what type of rail support they had there gee Nenad........in your last picture, I was going to say that your table looks just like mine I see her now, and she looks great! well done on the rails.....when all the rigging is on them, you'll have captured the snippets and bit of detail, that the visiting tourist can only see through their shuttered eye. detail is a funny thing......one person can only see so much....another person see so much, but glances over what the other person saw....that's probably the biggest problem with 'layered detail'. some of the smallest detail can be overlooked. never think that it's a waste........even at this point in your build, you have added detail that even the model manufacturers, didn't even think to put into their kits! you are well on your way, in building one of the most 'comprehensive studies' of this vessel......your log runs deep with ideas and thoughts. now.......if Bob and Marc carries out what their plans are.......this site will have the benefit of having three highly detailed logs to follow! also......here is the 'scary part'.........you've done well so far, and you continue through the rest of the deck fitting........what do you think your rigging is going to look like? nothing short of spectacular......I can tell you that! great job Nenad!- 4,152 replies
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what a fine bunch of comments to read........very frustrating afternoon...........thank you very much. I showed the admiral the ice maker. I gotta stop doing that........now she'll NEVER let me buy the pre-fab stuff thanks Frank and Augie! a while ago, I mentioned that this build has the same feel, as when I did the M&M boat. the only difference here, is that I'm following some sort of instruction. rest assured though, that I'm not following them to the letter.......merely for reference to see what the parts look like. thanks Mark.......considering that the appliance you mentioned was made before my time.......the only conclusion I can come up with, is that I might have owned one in a past life, or I saw it at the dump! I sure as heck, didn't deduce it from the plans......that's for sure! thanks Michael.......it killed me...I'm usually pretty good with figuring this stuff out in my head. to get that slant, the arch of the curve actually changes......diminishes quite a bit. I guess it was a good thing, because the visor really needed to be thinner than 1/16, which is why I was using 1/32. the mahogany is 0.7 mm.........worked out even better! thanks Carl.......as I mentioned, don't hold me to that aft brim work on the roof.......I have another idea. there is enough room for the entrance, but I don't like it. what I have in mind will look better. the black 'n white thing is only for now........I think there is another color I can throw into the mix........soon as I can get the cellar set up........March is coming in January! thanks John and Nenad........the really good part is coming................. hello Marty! yea....you got me....I planned to do that to the vents. ....just a but of accent on the louvers......white into a dirty black background {shows depth}. doing all this........makes me think I should have bought the kit. nawwwww, now where would the fun be in that? glad to have you follow along.......it should start to get more interesting. thanks for the good word! there's another update tomorrow...just figured I'd warn ya ahead of time. ya may want ta practice yer jig!
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WOW!!! Sjors.....looks like you had a lot of fum on your days off! time very well spent, my friend! she looks awesome!
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if your looking for a good seal coat......I would suggest a lacquer. it come in gloss, semi gloss, and flat......I tend to use the semi gloss, since it soaks into the wood and becomes dull. it's also a nice hard finish as well. give it a try on a test piece.........I'm sure you'll like it saw your log on the right hand side of the forum page...........very nice work! I started a billing's kit right around when J started his. one of these days, I'll get back to it.......meanwhile, I'll have yours to enjoy! looking forward to it
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thanks George........there are times when trying to make parts, requires a not so subtle approach. I get a lot of those thanks for the good word
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pulling out the white paint..........more white?!?!?! yes.....folks, I'm building a boat......in black 'n white! even the instructions are in black 'n white! could it be.........is this the reason why I'm going in circles with these colors? MAN!!!!! I gotta run out right now, and find a kit that has full color instructions! spoof'in's fun.....isn't it? why.......I do it all the time well, anyway.....the ice maker needed a second coat.......right along with the frame of the vent. I was real careful not to get any on the fins........and then it happened! crrrrraaaaapppp! hey....... ......that don't look too bad! I did the tips of the fins with a damp brush........and the rest is posterity. not much else to do with the vent........so I finished off the ice maker. the door handles and hinges are just bent brass rod {different sizes}. painting the heads of some 7 mm brads made for simulated bolts or screws.....whichever the mind prefers. the vent was put in place. ....and together, they exist......in perfect symbiosis {or as near as I can get them}
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making the flat part of the roof was easy....... making the visor was another. the curved front was beveled to accentuate the slant....and then it started! I couldn't get the curve right, without causing the roof to curve along with it. I was using the last piece of 1/32 thick flat stock I had....ended up making that unusable in short order. luckily I have that pack of thin strip mahogany {25 mm wide}.......so I used it. at this point, I was pretty fed - up with trying to be pretty with it.......cut the width of the sides and roughed it out {wished I had three hands for it} once the glue had dried...to the point where it was holding well enough, the top part of the visor was trimmed flush with the roof. in between this foolishness, I had painted some 2 mm thin strip black, and began to make the fins for the grates in the ice maker and the vent. this was another trial of patience.......with putting as many fins in the space....and keeping the spacing even {I kinda lost that battle}. complicating the matter, is the fact that everything is black. I had to wait a few times for the glue to dry......I was using a long pin to adjust the fins. I'd hit the preceding one.........and that would put me back where I started. but I got them both done. I did a lot of adjustments and sanding to get the visor in shape. mahogany is not an easy wood to work with....especially at this thickness. still need to do a little more to the port side front corner. around the back, I wasn't too keen on leaving the corners open.....so I did this. I might change it though......I thought of something else. either way I go....there is enough roof overhang, where it won't hinder the entrance.
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thank you all....so very much! I am a bit humbled......really appreciate the kind comments once a couple more key elements are done, then the deck work can begin, and things will start to show the complexity. it's a mind boggle, just to think of what to do next......going from one sub assembly......to the next. now to finish off some of them, and get them ready for the time they can be put in place permanently. thanks again for the good word and to those who hit the like button.........should be another update......very soon
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it's still early Mark.........still time for that idea you haven't thought of yet, to come to the surface your planking now......you've come further than you did in V1..........that counts for a lot! very nice start
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thanks Bob as I learned with the Mary Ann build, it's kinda like a tab-boo to add in things that weren't on the actual ship. I remember the person from Danmark who commented on my gallery pictures of her {word Press or Blogger.....I forget which}. he pointed out the things that weren't on the original boat........but, he did comment how he liked it for the imagination and ideas I had put into her. I could tell that he wasn't critiquing the build.......he was merely stating the facts that we both knew. I still feel good about how that build came out. it was fun to do....and it proved that I COULD go bananas.....without going bonkers! I didn't kill the subject.......not like I did with the lobster boat.......we BOTH know that thanks for the good word my friend........I'm trying not to go TOO overboard with this one thanks George..!
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well........that was a bit of a process! I think I answered the question......."is a round surface easier to paint than a flat surface?" NO!!! not by a long shot! it's like trying to 'shoot the moon', so to speak! it's more like 'spray tanning'........ya gotta flip 'em over! I'm just spoof'in here of course......but it is true......let the first coat dry a bit, before it's flipped over to get the other side. so, it was done in two waves.......but it came out well. the other thing I had to wrestle with, is the fact that I used the spray can and not an airbrush. this primer is very watery, and the temp in the cellar isn't warm enough......I can't wait to see what the color paint will do with these factors. first.....the pilot house. I took the dash out to do it.......the idea that I put those pieces along the topsides of the roof opening, made it a bit hard to remove it. I did manage to miss one silly spot.......usually, I paint before I assemble, but I was flying blind, in toggling the paint and assembly.....and well, one of them had to win then....the rack / podium. I was glad to see that I didn't fill in all the holes in the netting. I tried to be careful with this.....glad it paid off. the holes for that little bit of railing can barely be seen...I filled them with CA prior to painting. then......the first section of the trawl rig. I like the way it came out.......some drips did occur with the railings, but they were easily remedied with a finger. you can see the scope of the whiteness...even the railings are white. now you see these aspects three all painted white as they can be all that's left, is this only one I did the vessel, just for fun! the railings needed to be done......so why not simply leave them where they are, and spray them all at once. I didn't flip 'er over to do the underside of the rub rails though......and that pesky line down the middle of the deck......I'll fill that thing or else!!! the problem here is that the main deck was done in two pieces, rather than the one piece, the fore deck was made from {I had cemented the two pieces of flat stock together, prior to cutting it out......or, was it three pieces???? oh, well!}. I don't plan on giving the deck areas any other paint, aside from what you see........flat white
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since I was on a railing binge........I figured I trim the railings on the fore deck. I had already cemented them together. at the bow cap, the lower railing was trimmed off and the top one was bent down, according to the plans then......the moment I have been waiting for........damn the exhaust fan, the pilot house, the rack / podium, and the first section, are getting primed!
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it's a losing battle Sjors........I'm JUST getting caught up again!!!! .....and that's just the scratch builds!!! thanks for the good word! :D Nenad and Michael...........I think that's where 'crazy glue' got it's name. never stick it in your pocket though........we all know what happens to pens thanks for the good word as well Omega {Patrick}, Piet, and Patrick....thanks for the good word! color is getting to be quite an issue now.......glad when I can finally get there I think I know what your referring to Mark........that open area in the rack / podium. well.......silly me......I had to mention it. all this time, I've been looking at the build from the starboard side....not paying any heed to the port side. when I turned the boat around, is when I noticed it.....but kind of shook it off since there was no platform there. but then I began to think.......what if for some reason, there was a problem, and the only access to it was from this vantage point. brrrrrrr.......cold chills and a watery drink! so I decided to put something there. I know that it's not in the plans......perhaps not even on the original vessel........but why not add it in anyway first things first.......let's drill the holes. I have one more of those stanchions left.....shame to have it in inventory.......what would I use it for? then I cut and bent the railings for it I had to make a jig to drill the holes........sad to say I was 1/2 a MM off.......but I did a bit of trimming and I got it in place. I'll just have to fill in the holes. possibilities of probabilities........we'll just chalk it up to added detail. gee......perhaps a platform there would be in order
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I like the way you did this.........the margin planks with the king plank down the middle. it suggests that the open areas are filled in with the actual planking at first glance, I thought it strange.......but in the terms of planking.....it looks logical nice!
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I was sorry to hear of the shortcoming.......with what I've seen you do up to now.......you WILL find a way you plan an open coolant circuit, siphoning water from outside the boat, and expelling it at the other end..........but have you given any thought to a closed system? the only problem with this, is you would need a radiator to cool the fluid you will use. there are other fluids that have a higher cooling rate than water.
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Cutty Sark by NenadM
popeye the sailor replied to NenadM's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
I like that eye bolt plate.........it works well generals are smarter after battle, because they already know the outcome.........we know, ONLY when we say it is she's looking good........your making some big steps forward- 4,152 replies
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looking super Nils.......your really moving right along! your method of pre hung sails is working well for you the rigging is really nice!
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thanks George! .....that little tube of super glue......at one point, I couldn't find it! I looked through the mess on my table...and I couldn't see it. I knew I had removed the build - up on the nozzle....but what did I do with it from there? I found it hanging off of my shirt! it must have been on the edge of the table, and I leaned in to do something! it's the weird stuff....it makes one laugh! thanks for the good word!
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