GLakie Posted June 20, 2015 #31 Posted June 20, 2015 Safe journeys Bob. Canute and rafine 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
augie Posted June 26, 2015 #32 Posted June 26, 2015 Table for 1 please! Really nice start, Bob. GLakie 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Michel Posted June 26, 2015 #33 Posted June 26, 2015 Speedy Bob!! Very nice. GLakie 1 Quote http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10864-lart%C3%A9sien-scale-160-by-michel-b%C3%A9nard/
Stuntflyer Posted June 26, 2015 #34 Posted June 26, 2015 Looks great Bob! I'm looking forward to your future posts. I'm sure that you will be ahead of me in no time. Mike GLakie 1 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
rafine Posted June 27, 2015 Author #35 Posted June 27, 2015 Thanks guys for the comments and "likes". Mike, after seeing yours, I'll be happy to have mine come out as well. Had the pleasure of spending some time with Chuck, and seeing his work, and I'm eager to get back at it. Bob Canute, Rustyj, Stuntflyer and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted July 6, 2015 Author #36 Posted July 6, 2015 Back at it after a travel break. I've done the stern frames and the framing of the stern ports. Fitting and placing those sills and lintels was a fussy business, even using the stern drawing as a template, as suggested by Chuck. Now the fun begins. Time to start the planking. Bob egkb, Mirabell61, gjdale and 25 others 28 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Ian B Posted July 6, 2015 #37 Posted July 6, 2015 Looking great, I am at the same stage--- it took me three attempts to get the stern correct--- my problem??? I never read the excellent instructions that Chuck had written until the third time I did it ha ha ha GLakie, mtaylor and Rustyj 3 Quote HMAV Bounty 'Billings' completed ⛵ HMS Cheerful - Syren-Chuck' completed Steam Pinnace 199 'Billings bashed' - completed ⚓ HMS Ledbury F30 --White Ensign -completed 😎 HMS Vanguard 'Victory models'-- completed Bismarck Amati 1/200 --underway 👍
Rustyj Posted July 6, 2015 #38 Posted July 6, 2015 Great work Bob. Those stern ports looked like they would be a little, as you put it "fussy", but they look perfect. Enjoy your planking. GLakie, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
rafine Posted July 6, 2015 Author #39 Posted July 6, 2015 Thanks so much Ian, Rusty and all of the "likes". I'm sure that I must have done at least 3 of each of the sills and lintels in an effort to get all the angles and bevels to a passable state. Bob mtaylor, Canute, egkb and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted July 14, 2015 Author #40 Posted July 14, 2015 Some progress to report. I completed the prep for planking by adding the square tuck stern piece and fillers and then painting the ports. I opened my last ever bottle of Pollyscale ATSF red for the ports. I then did the first layer of the wales, which was pretty straightforward. Now, it's on to the topside planking. Bob Mirabell61, Dubz, Rustyj and 23 others 26 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Mirabell61 Posted July 14, 2015 #41 Posted July 14, 2015 Bob, your build sequences look clear, straight foreward and very well executed. You`ve got a real "gem" of a cutter on your slipway... Would it be worth a thought to do the hull below the wales in lapstrake planking ? (like Lee had Chosen for his cutter "Alert" ) Nils GLakie, mtaylor and Kurt Johnson 3 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
augie Posted July 14, 2015 #42 Posted July 14, 2015 Laying that first wale may have been 'straightforward' (for you) but it gives us a great mind's eye view of what she'll look like. Beautifully neat, mate. GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
jwvolz Posted July 14, 2015 #43 Posted July 14, 2015 Very nice Bob. Boy do I miss Polly Scale paints. Though I did manage to horde a pretty good stash before it all disappeared... Canute and GLakie 2 Quote Joe Volz Current build: Model Shipways "Benjamin W. Latham" Completed builds on MSW: Caldercraft HMS "Cruizer" Caldercraft HMBV "Granado" Model Shipways "Prince De Neufchatel"
rafine Posted July 15, 2015 Author #44 Posted July 15, 2015 Thanks so much Nils, Augie, Dirk and Joe for the nice comments and also all of the "likes". Nils, the prototype for Chuck's design does not have lapstrake planking and I'm going to stay with that. Joe, I only wish that I had stocked up on the paint. I don't have many bottles left. Bob egkb, Mirabell61, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Chuck Posted July 15, 2015 #45 Posted July 15, 2015 Nils, Cheerful was NOT clinker planked. I know that its a simple thing to just think that all cutters were planked that way (like Alert). But its simply not true. This class of cutters was carvel planked. Just as the contemporary model of Surly shows. I suppose that folks could clinker plank the cutter but it would be historically incorrect. Chuck Canute, druxey, Rustyj and 4 others 7 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY
Gahm Posted July 17, 2015 #46 Posted July 17, 2015 Beautifully done - as always! Thomas GLakie 1 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
rafine Posted July 17, 2015 Author #47 Posted July 17, 2015 Thanks so much Thomas. Bob GLakie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rafine Posted July 18, 2015 Author #48 Posted July 18, 2015 Planking is now underway. I have completed the port side topside planking ( to the point of rough sanding). The caulking is simulated by pencil on one side and end of each plank. Since I've never been able to accurately plank between ports by adding individual planks, I use a method of building up units of planking , which allows me to get perfectly straight edges and correct sizing to obtain the 1/64" rebates around the ports. Where required, the planks are pre-bent to shape before gluing up the unit. Now it's on to the starboard side to repeat the process. Bob mobbsie, fatih79, Remcohe and 28 others 31 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Jay 1 Posted July 18, 2015 #49 Posted July 18, 2015 Bob, your planking looks great and that's an excellent tip for planking the around the ports--thanks for sharing! Cheers, Jay GLakie, egkb, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: Ariel
GLakie Posted July 18, 2015 #50 Posted July 18, 2015 Your planking looks great Bob! Thanks much for sharing your methods with us. Jay 1 and mtaylor 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
gjdale Posted July 18, 2015 #51 Posted July 18, 2015 Your planking is looking very sharp there Bob. GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Rustyj Posted July 18, 2015 #52 Posted July 18, 2015 Well done Bob. Your method works really well and looks great. GLakie and mtaylor 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
augie Posted July 18, 2015 #53 Posted July 18, 2015 Very crisp. Need to keep that technique in mind! mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
rafine Posted July 19, 2015 Author #54 Posted July 19, 2015 Thanks so much Jay, George, Grant, Rusty and Augie for the nice comments and thanks also to all of the "likes". Every once in a while, being unable to do something leads to a good idea. Bob mtaylor, augie, Jay 1 and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Stuntflyer Posted July 19, 2015 #55 Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) Bob - Everything looks great! I did the area between the ports like you did, using built up planking. Works great as long as the pieces are pre-bent where necessary. I'm looking forward to your getting ahead of me. It will help me as I plod along while learning from you. Mike Edited July 19, 2015 by Stuntflyer mtaylor, Jay 1, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey
AnobiumPunctatum Posted July 19, 2015 #56 Posted July 19, 2015 Very nice work. Your planking is looking really crisp. mtaylor, Canute and GLakie 3 Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
mobbsie Posted July 19, 2015 #57 Posted July 19, 2015 I can only echo all of the above Bob, very nicely done mate. Definitely a system to remember. Be Good mobbsie Canute, GLakie and mtaylor 3 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :-
rafine Posted July 19, 2015 Author #58 Posted July 19, 2015 Thanks so much Mike, Christian, Mobbsie and the "likes". Mike, I was thinking just the opposite -- I'd like you to stay ahead of me so that I can learn from you. Bob Rustyj, Stuntflyer, dgbot and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
Gahm Posted July 20, 2015 #59 Posted July 20, 2015 Bob, your gun ports look fantastic! Next time I have to do gun ports I will use your technique! Thomas mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Current Built: Model Shipways Syren (US Brig 1803) Last Built: Anfora (kit bashed) Ictineo II (1st steam powered submarine 1864)
rafine Posted July 21, 2015 Author #60 Posted July 21, 2015 Thanks so much Thomas. I'm glad to be of some use. Bob mtaylor and GLakie 2 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
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