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Heroine 1838 by ggrieco - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 - Western River Steamboat as she appeared before hitting a snag in the Red River


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Fascinating and impressive work, ggrieco.  I look forward to seeing this progress.

 

Ed

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Lovely brass milling work GG,

 

Nils

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- Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild

"Zeesboot"  heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB  clinker scratch build scale 1:24

Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE  ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild

Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build

Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) 

"SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild)
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"Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild)  original was my grandfathers ship

-"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 

"Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32

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Happy Birthday Glenn , I wish you all the best for you and your family!! :) Have a great day!!!

 

Kind Regards

Dimitris

Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale

 

Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

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Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Happy Birthday and all the best for yours as well! We're expecting a cool and rainy day today - just as I like it.  I've decided to take the day off and be lazy. I hope your day and weekend are wonderful as well!

 

Cheers

 

Glenn

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Happy Birthday and all the best for yours as well! We're expecting a cool and rainy day today - just as I like it.  I've decided to take the day off and be lazy. I hope your day and weekend are wonderful as well!

 

Cheers

 

Glenn

Thank you very much Glenn!!

 

Cheers

Dimitris

Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale

 

Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale

 

Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I finally have most of the machinery parts machined.  Time to have some fun putting everything together.  Each model requires over 250 nuts and bolts just for the machinery.  The nuts and bolt heads range in size from 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 inches.  I found that 0-80 and 00-90 screws work for most of the bolts on Heroine but could only find screws with hex heads.  Heroine only used square headed fasteners.

 

I milled the nuts in three different sizes (scale 2 1/2 shown in photo)  The holes were milled slightly undersized and drilled and tapped to the proper thread.

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Completed flywheel bearings notched into the cylinder timbers.

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Starboard flywheel bearing as it appeared before excavation.

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The parts that make up the valves for Heroine's engine.

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Valves ready to be soldered.

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Glenn

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Heroine Shipwreck Diorama

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I somehow just discovered this log. What a delight to have another western steamboat build here, though I'm in awe of your detailed metal work. You passed over the hull construction, if you ever want to go back and discuss that I would be quite interested. Also, as I don't know anything about this boat, is there any online info about it or the excavation? In any case, thanks so much for sharing this and I'll happily follow along.

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Fine work.

 

Bob

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                                                a gaff rigged yawl,  HOGA (YT-146),  Int'l Dragon Class II,   Two Edwardian Launches 

 

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Hello Cathead,

 

I hope you don't mind if I follow your built and borrow some ideas from you.  We have pretty good information on most of the hull up to the deck.  Almost nothing exists above that but, we can guess at  some of it from post holes.  Dr. Kevin Crisman has done a lot of research and has come up with a beautiful reconstruction of how the vessel looked.  He has a profile but he is still working on an internal profile and the details of the upper works.

 

You can download a .pdf of our  IJNA article on the machinery at

 

https://tamu.academia.edu/GlennGrieco

 

Just click on Kevin's name on the page an it will take you to several of Kevin's articles on the Heroine and several other projects that he worked on.

 

I have also done a number of models of different aspects of the wreck that you can find at

 

http://nautarch.tamu.edu/model/report5/

 

Most of the constuction of the lower hull was down from hundreds of pages of field notes from the excavation and we don't have compete drawings yet.  If there are specific details that you are interested in, let me know and I'll try to find the specifics for you.

 

I'm happy to hear from you and I look forward to following your build.

 

Cheers,

 

Glenn

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9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p>

 

Heroine Shipwreck Diorama

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So happy you joined our site, Glenn. It's clear why you do this for a living. Are you using a CNC attached to the mill for machining? It's so perfect I can't imagine you're not.

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Hello Greg,

 

It's wonderful to be here and a bit humbling as well. I am in awe of the beautiful models that I've seen on this site. I just wish I had more time to explore! Our program could really use your talents and the talents of so many modelers on this site.

 

Yes, the mill is cnc. Then mill lends itself well to a project like this with so much machinery.

Glenn

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Heroine Shipwreck Diorama

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The 8 year old computer that runs my mill gave out early in the week.  It has made a lot of parts in the last 2 years and was well worth the $28 that I paid for it from Ebay.  I just paid $50 for a replacement and hope it performs as well.  I was only able to make a handfull of parts but, I finally got the time to start assembling the engine.

 

 

Parts for the cam frame supports.

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Completed cam frame supports.

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The engine minus the rods levers and wipers for the poppet valves.

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I have never been able to photograph brass well.  The suface shows every scuff and rub mark.  Blackening will give it a much more even appearance.

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Steam wipers and supports.

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Glenn

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9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p>

 

Heroine Shipwreck Diorama

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After making small-scale approximations of similar engines for my own build, it's really neat to see detailed, larger, precise reproductions for comparison. It always strikes me how small steamboat engines actually are; my mind wants them to be much bigger relative to the boat.

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Thanks everybody,

 

Yes Cathead, l feel the same way about the size of the engine compared to the actual size of the vessel. I read somewhere that even a well maintained high pressure engine on one of these steamers ran at less than 4 percent efficiency. What the engine lacked in size, the boilers made up for. The fireman must have really had his hands full.

Glenn

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9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p>

 

Heroine Shipwreck Diorama

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I was just able to finish the steam wipers and the throttle housing before the holiday break.  I played around a little with the lighting and exposure time and think the photos turned out a little better.  I think the secret is as little light as possible when photographing brass.

 

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Glenn

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9 inch Dahlgren on Marsilly Carriage<p><p>

 

Heroine Shipwreck Diorama

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All I can say is WOW. For that matter it's worth saying again.......WOW!!!!!!!!

 

Best,

John

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I'm with Jon... Wow!!!! is about all I can muster at seeing this.

Mark
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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Exquisite work Glen I wish I lived round the corner to pop in and see this in person.

 

Michael

Current builds  Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8;      Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8;       Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8

Other projects  Pilot Cutter 1:500 ;   Maria, 1:2  Now just a memory    

Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8

Finished projects  A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100  

 

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