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Hollowneck,

 

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Actually rigging the vessel's great, but making things like chain-plates and bullseyes for a working model is not my favorite thing.  Making blocks is ok, even with working sheaves (since I buy brass sheaves and don't typically have to make them).  I'm not a fan of walking rope either, but in the diameters and lengths I usually need I don't have much to choose from; I've yet to find a source of 1/8" or 3/16" diameter line made from Dacron polyester which is what the standing rigging on my models typically is.

 

Glad that's off my chest - I feel better  ;)

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I love rigging my ships. To me, it's the part that teaches me how the ships were operated. When I was a kid, I would just run lines all over my plastic ship kit. Now, it's great knowing that each line and shroud has a purpose and what that purpose is.

That being said, I do HATE ratlines.

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An hour of rigging is better than an hour of therapy.

 

Model ship building requires many skills. Many we learn as we go. Unfortunately, with skills it's "use it or loose it." Rigging is highly suseptable to this phenomenon. It's literally two years before the mast (no pun intended). This is my strongest positive for working on more than one model at a time which are in different stages of construction.

 

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I'll chuck my bi-corn hat in with the rest of the crew who love rigging. I find this stage of the build to be the most satisfying. 

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I find building the hull, particularly the back bone and frames to be what I enjoy most.  Rigging can be interesting and challenging but I see it more as work than pleasure.  Painting is my least favorite activity.

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Homer (Ron),

 

Thank you for the compliment(s) on my display baseboards. And thanks for the Birthday shout-out!

 

I think about how my finished model will be displayed early-on in my building cycle. In most cases, I'll have very specific thoughts about the materials and especially, color(s). I did a baseboard recently with routed profile moldings (in cherry) with a flush, incised base of bronzed acrylic (my model, Godspeed - a 4-masted schooner- sat on this base until it was suspended in a church nave). However, I kept the base and it now sits beneath my Revenge. I will add this model to my gallery here as soon as I take the time to take nice shots. This baseboard is nicely reflective, but not like a standard mirror; the bronze color softens the reflectance and compliments the wood tones of the ship beautifully.

 

Generallly-speaking, since my approach to model ships is primarily that of attempting to create an art object, I believe the entire presentation is also important. The models that have impressed me the most over the years are ones typically mounted on beautiful, hadrwood bases or are presented in compelling dioramas.

 

A finely crafted baseboard of say, highly-figured walnut burl (veneer) is hard to beat visually. I also think nice marquetry (inlay) works on the perimeter of most baseboards. I buy my patterned inlays from suppliers who cater to guitar luthiers. Although most models are presented on dark wood bases, don't rule out a contrasting, lighter color such as a figured maple. One of my nicest models to look at has a dark walnut hull that "floats" over a book-matched Birdseye maple base that also has inlay marquetry "purfling" on the edges of the maple. The extreme contrast sets off BOTH the model- and the base, itself.

 

I do NOT have large woodworking equipment (routers, table saw, planers, etc.) in my building space. I depend on friends in my model club to help me realize my design ideas with their skill and resources. I always supply detailed, dimensioned drawings or sketches as well as all the materials.

 

I recommend looking at more models in the galleries here for ideas and if you can, source the Seawatch books which show many stunning (mostly antique) examples of superb baseboards.

 

Thanks again for the compliment.

 

Regards,

 

Ron

 

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I not only like doing it, but also to take pictures of the result.

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Despite the frustrations along the way; if I have a good belaying plan then I enjoy rigging the model as much as building her.

 

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My favourite rigging line is the last one! 

I enjoy tying down the shrouds and now I have a system that works for me I'm happy doing the ratlines. Fixed rigging, no problem but when it comes to the running rigging I'm just plain clumsy and ham fisted - drives me mad at times. Plenty of coffee breaks while I try and compose myself and go back to it! On top of that I have the very bad habit of getting somewhat impatient because I'm close to finishing.

Next time I'll do better..... :rolleyes:

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ca.shipwright said it best - 'an hour of rigging is better than an hour of therapy'.  

 

I too enjoy rigging, and will do extensive research to make it as accurate as I can.  That includes the color of the various lines, chaffing considerations, size of the lines, tension (sag), and all the associated blocks, bullseyes, fairleads, deadeyes, and ironwork.  

 

After a few hours of rigging though, I find a good glass of liquid refreshment (ale, rum, bourban) straightens out the eyesight and loosens the muscles....

 

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To answer the question, yes I enjoy rigging.  

 

As I mostly work on British vessels, I live by Lees Masting and Rigging for the details on everything from dimensional information to some fine drawings on blocks and other pieces.  For schooners, my second love, Chapelle's American Schooners book gives a lot of details on rigging these vessels.   David Antscherl's Volume IV of TFFM offers a lot of great information on rigging.  Peterson's Rigging Period Ship Model offers a lot of good information on rigging a late 18th century frigate.   With these there is no reason to fear masting and rigging due to putting the wrong line in the wrong place, or using the wrong size or belaying points, some or all of which may be reasons why so many don't like rigging.  

 

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I am new to the hobby - being in only my second build (the Mary Byrne) - but during my first build I found the rigging part to be very enjoyable. However I also found it very frustrating whenever I list tension or couldn't get a knot tied. Yes, rigging is enjoyable - but so was the Gil work, the planking and the deck furniture....

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 Other than affixing ratlines to the shrouds, which is perhaps the most hideously tedious task I have ever inflicted on myself on a fairly regular basis, I have always enjoyed the sort of  zen sensation that accompanies the rigging process. If the rigging can be made to actually function accurately, it is a source of a wonderful sense of accomplishment. Intricate rigging, authentically executed, is a highlight of any ship model and a true thing of beauty in its own right. The extravagant sculpture that is the rigging of a big frigate or windjammer is breathtaking when done well, and worth every second of the requisite effort.

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I not only like to rig my ships, but I also enjoy making my line. I am presently working on Model Shipways Constitution. I have pre hung as much of the rigging as I could before installing the masts. 

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I really enjoy the rigging as well. It can be repetitive and monotonous, but I think it is the most rewarding as each mast is completed. The two most frustrating parts to rigging for me is being careful to keep all the line tensions uniform so as to not bow a mast or yard, and lacing a line from high on a mast all the way down to the designated tie off pin crossing it over or around another line already tied. I don’t like to have a line pulling against another causing it not to run straight. 

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I really enjoy rigging.  The standing rigging is part of the ship’s structure and I learned a lot about how the ship operated when doing the running rigging on my last model.  Even the ratlines are fun for me.  The whole process is very relaxing.

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With every new ship fun and effort in rigging increased. Doing the same knots again and again can be very relaxing after a hard day. When I began to build mediterrian ships, the task increased further since the plans and books showing the rigging are limited. Looking in the old paintings is sometimes not helpful. Comparing the rigging plans of Corel and Amatis Xebecs let me suppose that there is still a lot of variation possible.

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Pre-rigging the mast, and even adding sails to the yards before you set the mast in the hull is an extreme time saver, not to mention it allows you to get up close and personal, without having to fight existing rigging on the model.

 

I adopted this technique for the mast/rigging construction for my 1/128 Great Republic slipper.

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It works well for me. Right now I am doing the lower ratlines and working my way up. Once all the ratlines are finished I plan on installing and rigging the yards. The hardest part is to plan ahead and make sure you have enough room to install the rest of the lines. The bottom area of the masts will be a real chore to rig. It will be a lot of monkeying around, but I like to solve those problems ahead of time. Thanks for your interest.

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