Remcohe Posted October 28, 2014 Author #781 Posted October 28, 2014 Ok, I added the marks on the sternpost by narrowing them down they fitted. I omitted one mark as the gudgeon will cover it. I'm not happy with how they turned out compared to the stempost marks. It was hard to maneuver being right handed, the hull got in the way Making a new sternpost is out of the question I'm affright ,.... Remco fatih79, alangr4, harvey1847 and 9 others 12 Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
druxey Posted October 28, 2014 #782 Posted October 28, 2014 Looks pretty good to my eye, Remco. Well done. Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
tlevine Posted October 28, 2014 #783 Posted October 28, 2014 I think they look fantastic. And with the naked eye they probably look even better, subtly blending into the background. I'll take your "affright" any day of the week! druxey 1 Toni Director Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Member IPMS Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Piet Posted October 29, 2014 #784 Posted October 29, 2014 Typical comment by a perfectionist - - "I'm not happy - - -" They look great Remco, many of us wish they could make them look like those. On the other hand - - dare I even think it - - you can always tear the sternpost off and make a new one and carving the markings on the bench Nah, they look great! Cheers, Kevin, druxey, cog and 2 others 5 Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
dvm27 Posted October 29, 2014 #785 Posted October 29, 2014 They look great Remco and I really admire you're doing them at this stage, when you don't have the option of removing the sternpost. druxey and Remcohe 2 GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
Erebus and Terror Posted October 29, 2014 #786 Posted October 29, 2014 (edited) I think the widest marks were placed with the letters tight against each other, as the example from the NMM. These were from the wreck of the Royal George, sunk in 1782. Inserting find Druxey - here are some copper versions from HMS Investigator, refitted in 1851. Edited October 29, 2014 by E&T Piet, druxey, jaerschen and 1 other 4 Building Terror Blog
harvey1847 Posted October 29, 2014 #787 Posted October 29, 2014 We are talking about 3 millimeters Remco, three millimeters high... They look great to me too. Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
Trussben Posted October 29, 2014 #788 Posted October 29, 2014 Ha and damn it! I wish I had the chisel skills you do! Ben Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. Completed builds: HMS Winchelsea. ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat. QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Redbeard Posted October 30, 2014 #789 Posted October 30, 2014 OK...I think i've found a word that hasn't been used...Phenomenal !!! Remco I truly admire your skill set. I wish I had a fraction of your talent. This will definitely be a build that many will reference to for years to come. Keep up the good work. John clipper and Piet 2 John Current Build: MSW 18 Century Longboat 1:48 Next Build: MSW Bluenose 1:64
SJSoane Posted October 31, 2014 #790 Posted October 31, 2014 Hi Remco, I am just catching up after a long absence. The draught marks are terrific, both stem and stern. You have an exceptional hand with a chisel. Mark Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/
texxn5 Posted October 31, 2014 #791 Posted October 31, 2014 Outstanding as usual. I always love to get caught up on this masterpiece. John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com
Remcohe Posted November 3, 2014 Author #792 Posted November 3, 2014 Thanks all, good quality chisels and keeping then very very sharp helps a lot... Robin I used the watering marking on my body plan to establish the position of the marks Next up the rudder, my first attempt to cut 'simple' tabs that go all the way from side to side failed. I had to much tear out from the mill, even with a backing piece of wood. So back to the chisels and I made the proper altering tabling. Cut to size with the table saw and scroll saw, tarring simulated with thin black paper Tapered with a big bench plane The square hole at the top tapers from fore to aft. Next up the pintles. Remco BANYAN, Dubz, realworkingsailor and 22 others 25 Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
dvm27 Posted November 3, 2014 #793 Posted November 3, 2014 I've never seen a tabled joint on a model, Remco. Extraordinary work! It's a shame no one willd ever know as you can't see both sides at once. druxey 1 GregwebsiteAdmiralty Modelsmoderator Echo Cross-section buildAdmiralty Models Cross-section BuildFinished buildPegasus, 1776, cross-sectionCurrent buildSpeedwell, 1752
Trussben Posted November 3, 2014 #794 Posted November 3, 2014 Greg - everybody on MSW knows it's there! Lol. Beautiful Remco. Ben druxey and gjdale 2 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. Completed builds: HMS Winchelsea. ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat. QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
mtaylor Posted November 3, 2014 #795 Posted November 3, 2014 And Remco pushes the bar again. Simply amazing work on the rudder. druxey 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
rafine Posted November 3, 2014 #796 Posted November 3, 2014 Incredible job on the rudder Remco. This goes beyond just pushing the bar -- it's being shoved out of reach. Bob mtaylor, druxey and gjdale 3 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
cog Posted November 3, 2014 #797 Posted November 3, 2014 Remco, Just when we thought te bar couldn't be raised any higher, you just pushed it up another notch ... Great work! mtaylor and druxey 2 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
michael mott Posted November 3, 2014 #798 Posted November 3, 2014 Remco The tabled joint is what sets your work a cut above, and demonstrates excellent craftsmanship. Michael druxey 1 Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it.
Erebus and Terror Posted November 4, 2014 #799 Posted November 4, 2014 Beautiful Remco! In regards to your previous post on the draught marks, I wanted to show this (an image taken from the wonderful The Excavation of the Machault: An 18th-Century French Frigate). Your draught marks look like a perfect replica! mtaylor, Elmer Cornish, alangr4 and 3 others 6 Building Terror Blog
Piet Posted November 4, 2014 #800 Posted November 4, 2014 All you folks took the words right out of my mouth, not much more to add - - - except - - - heel erg mooi! Cheers, Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
BANYAN Posted November 4, 2014 #801 Posted November 4, 2014 Incredible and very inspirational scale joinery Remco. cheers Pat If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
AnobiumPunctatum Posted November 4, 2014 #802 Posted November 4, 2014 Really wonderful and precise work. Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
dgbot Posted November 4, 2014 #803 Posted November 4, 2014 I echo the opinions others have posted. Wonderful attention to detail and may I ask how you sharpen your chisels. I can do knives but I always had bad luck tying to put a decent edge on a chisel or a gouge. David B Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
druxey Posted November 4, 2014 #804 Posted November 4, 2014 Without wishing to hijack this thread, David B, in brief I'd recommend Lee Valley's (Veritas Tools) sharpening jig, stone pond and water stones. mtaylor, michael mott, alangr4 and 1 other 4 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Trussben Posted November 4, 2014 #805 Posted November 4, 2014 Same As Druxey, but I use a Worksharp3000 sharpener rig and get great results on my chisels, the scary sharp type Ben mtaylor and alangr4 2 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. Completed builds: HMS Winchelsea. ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat. QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Remcohe Posted November 4, 2014 Author #806 Posted November 4, 2014 David B, I use a Veritas MKII honing guide and several (400, 1000, 3000 & 6000 grid) Japanese waterstones. It's a big investment but the results are great every time. Meanwhile I'm struggling with the pintles, the brass bars I have are to thick and need to be thinned down a lot, it's not working this way. I need to visit the hobby store to get bars that better match the size of the pintle straps. I not sure if I understand the TFFM correctly, are the straps let down into the keel? And is this over their full-length or partially? Remco Elmer Cornish and fatih79 2 Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
druxey Posted November 4, 2014 #807 Posted November 4, 2014 I believe that the straps taper in thickness, and that the scores taper out from maximum on the stern post to zero on the planking. Erebus and Terror 1 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
cog Posted November 4, 2014 #808 Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Remco, I found some information in: "The Arming and Fitting of English Ships of War 1600 - 1815" by Brian Lavery (see attached pdf) Hope that clarifies things a bit - I do love books arming_and_fitting.1600_1815.pdf Edited November 4, 2014 by cog Piet and mtaylor 2 Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Remcohe Posted November 5, 2014 Author #809 Posted November 5, 2014 Thanks. I went to the hobby shop and got a better strip of brass that closer matches the size I need. Less material to remove, easier to work with. Two holes are smaller to receive a bolt the rest will get simulated screws..... Remco Jeronimo, Dubz, Landlocked123 and 17 others 20 Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime. Current build HMS Kingfisher MSW 1.0 log click here
alangr4 Posted November 5, 2014 #810 Posted November 5, 2014 Remco, you are indeed a man of many talents. Beautiful work! Alan
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