Alex M Posted July 12, 2013 #31 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) Hi Chris, glad to see you back, and your Confederacy is amazing! mine just turned 6 mos and are sleeping thru the night - I never thought this day would come.... :D no wonder, our is 21 years now, but also sleep not every night through... :D Edited July 12, 2013 by Alex M Quote Current build: HMS Sphynx, 20 gun ship launched in 1775 at Portsmouth, Hampshire. On the drawing board: HMS Anson, 64 gun third rate ship of the line, launched in 1781 at Plymouth
Trussben Posted July 14, 2013 #32 Posted July 14, 2013 Hi Chris, what size of ships wheels did you buy from Cornwall models boats? They have 2 sizes available. And your right about expensive! Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
ChrisLBren Posted July 15, 2013 Author #33 Posted July 15, 2013 Appreciate the kind words ! Ben i used the 24mm wheel from Caldercraft - it looks great and worth every penny. I should be installing mine again later this week. I think the number is C87152 Quote
ChrisLBren Posted July 19, 2013 Author #34 Posted July 19, 2013 Hey Group, At last all deck furniture is finished with the re installation of the ships wheel (i lowered its supports 1/16) and the binnacles. All thats left on this one is the headrails, dummy masts, channels/deadeyes, gunport lids/fenders and anchors. I need to decide if i want to proceed to the head rails or revisit the WVH - it is painting and sanding season outside here in Chicago (if it cools down just a bit). On the other hand Ive got some renewed momentum on the Confed. Have a great weekend, Chris aykutansin, Jason, jaerschen and 11 others 14 Quote
Trussben Posted July 19, 2013 #35 Posted July 19, 2013 Looks superb Chris. Keep going! Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
tlevine Posted July 19, 2013 #36 Posted July 19, 2013 Way too hot and humid today. And it's supposed to rain later. How's that for a few excuses to stay with the ship? Quote Toni Chairman Nautical Research Guild Member Nautical Research and Model Society Member Midwest Model Shipwrights Current Builds: Utrecht-1742 Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale Half Hull Planking Project Capstan Project Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale Echo Cross Section NRG Rigging Project Utrecht-1742 Gallery: Hannah - 1:36 scale.
Rustyj Posted July 19, 2013 #37 Posted July 19, 2013 Wonderful Chris! Keep it going your almost there. Plus I'm greedy and love seeing your work on her. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Ferit Posted July 20, 2013 #38 Posted July 20, 2013 Such a smooth, such a clean build!... Such a brilliance!... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)
mtaylor Posted July 20, 2013 #39 Posted July 20, 2013 Looks great, Chris. You're almost done..... Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Landlubber Mike Posted July 20, 2013 #40 Posted July 20, 2013 Amazing work Chris! Just out of curiosity, what are you doing for the red color? Is it a specialty wood? Paint? Dye? Stain? Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
ChrisLBren Posted July 22, 2013 Author #41 Posted July 22, 2013 Thanks everyone - Toni - your Atalanta is a beaut ! I'm really enjoying following your log. Always great hearing from you Rusty, Ben, Ferit, and Mark. As far as the wood Mike - its Swiss Pear - sanded to 600 and finished with 100 percent pure Tung Oil. I spent yesterday cutting out rails with my scroll saw - now Im sanding them to final dimensions with my Dremel. And just placed final order to Jeff for a the last sheets of wood I'll need to finish this one up. Quote
jaerschen Posted July 22, 2013 #42 Posted July 22, 2013 Very nice work Chris. You are doing a great job Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
Landlubber Mike Posted July 24, 2013 #43 Posted July 24, 2013 As far as the wood Mike - its Swiss Pear - sanded to 600 and finished with 100 percent pure Tung Oil. Hey Chris, thanks for the response. For the deck elements, the pear almost looks more red than the planking on the hull which is why I thought there was something different. Looks absolutely gorgeous Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
ChrisLBren Posted July 24, 2013 Author #44 Posted July 24, 2013 Thanks Mike - actually the deck elements were finished with two coats of Watcos Danish Oil - which doesn't involve as much buffing as the Tung Oil which goes on thick. I used Watcos for most of the smaller assemblies (cannon carriages, binnacles, pin racks, deck beams, etc). Not sure if that made a difference or its just the lighting of the iPhone camera. Landlubber Mike 1 Quote
Landlubber Mike Posted July 25, 2013 #45 Posted July 25, 2013 Sorry to keep asking you questions, but what kind of paint and color did you use to paint the ship's wheel? It looks fantastic, and well coordinated with the boxwood in your build Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
ChrisLBren Posted August 16, 2013 Author #46 Posted August 16, 2013 Hi Mike, Basically the formula for painting to resemble boxwood is a 50/50 mix of Raw Sienna and Yellow Ochre as a base coat. You then go in with light washes of Raw Sienna mixed with a touch of white for your low lights and Yellow Ochre mixed with a touch of white for your highlights. Use several washes to give the piece dimension. Then apply Minwax Golden Oak - allow to get tacky for about 30 minutes then brush off. Repeat if necessary - stole this one from Chuck. Chris Landlubber Mike 1 Quote
ChrisLBren Posted August 16, 2013 Author #47 Posted August 16, 2013 OK Group, An update at last - starting the headrails. Up first is the lower cheek. After careful sanding to get it to fit - the next issue was devising a way to get straight groves along the faces of the cheeks. The solution is simple - create a handle - which I did with a couple scraps of wood - and a brass nail elevated exactly 1/64. Then all you need to do is run the piece along the nail several times to create a groove - which was then enlarged with a series of larger nails used by hand similar to an awl. Ive also attached a bow shot - alignment here is so critical - and by my eye the right side is a little lower than the left. Not much can be done here to correct other than possible adjust the height of the hawse hole boards if need be to compensate for the upper cheek. We will see how it looks once i remove the black strake above the cheek in order to install the hawse hole boards - hopefully this weekend if the twins allow. Wishmaster, CaptMorgan, Mirabell61 and 2 others 5 Quote
mtaylor Posted August 16, 2013 #48 Posted August 16, 2013 Chris, Lovely work on the cheeks and a great tip on the groove. As for the apparent height difference... I'm seeing the ship canted to the right which is giving that appearance. Though once I enlarge it, it might be that the cheek on the right is a tad thinner than one on the left? Not really noticeable unless you're looking for it. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
ChrisLBren Posted August 16, 2013 Author #49 Posted August 16, 2013 Hey Mark, Thanks - the cheeks are identical - what you are seeing is the line of the left wale where it hits the stem is about 1/64 higher than the right. So once the cheek is mounted the rear of it is slightly elevated making it look slightly thicker. Once i add the hawse holes and the forward parts of the cheek you probably wont be able to tell the difference (at least im hoping) Chris Quote
ChrisLBren Posted August 17, 2013 Author #50 Posted August 17, 2013 Well couldn't resist - i removed the cheek and filed down the lip of the wale on the left side - I think it looks much better at least to me.... Onward! wyz, mtaylor and aykutansin 3 Quote
Trussben Posted August 17, 2013 #51 Posted August 17, 2013 Looks great Chris. Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Kevin Posted August 17, 2013 #52 Posted August 17, 2013 That looks brilliat Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
Ferit Posted August 17, 2013 #53 Posted August 17, 2013 Welcome to the Marvellous Show of ChrisLBren!... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)
Landlubber Mike Posted August 18, 2013 #54 Posted August 18, 2013 Thanks for the painting tip Chris - it worked out incredibly well. Nice updates too - I don't know how you have the time with the twins to work in your shipyard. I haven't been so lucky Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
ChrisLBren Posted September 12, 2013 Author #55 Posted September 12, 2013 Hey Group An update ! Working on the cheeks - have to say this is my favorite part of the build so far. This is where the careful work i did almost four years ago on the stem is paying off - everything for the most part is lining up. You can see I did rework the trailboards vs using the ones Chuck generously supplied - mine needed to be about 1/16 wider at the hawse holes for it to fit and align everything properly. Some tweaking will still be necessary - my advice for people building the kit is to know going in - this area is probably more of a scratch building exercise than simply using the kit components. Most will need to adjust/re work parts to compensate for the creep that is unavoidable in your build. I also highly recommend using hardwoods for the cheeks. Next up will be to finish the cheeks by inscribing the moldings, dyeing the tailboards/stem/adding the carvings, painting the figurehead and installing everything to the model. Lastly picked up a couple Ancre Monographs and am currently studying them for my next builds. I'm pumped ! I should be busy for the rest of my life with these - I intend to build both in 1/48. Chris mtaylor, Mirabell61, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Quote
Rustyj Posted September 12, 2013 #56 Posted September 12, 2013 Hi Chris, Very nice work on those rails. It is a fun area especially when you did such good work setting it up. It's important to remember that work very early in a build can have a major impact later on. I should know! Well done. Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
archjofo Posted September 12, 2013 #57 Posted September 12, 2013 Hi Chris, I am enthusiastic about your outstanding performance. Quote Best regards Johann Video: La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette of 1827 - naval artillery La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - Construction of long boat La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - Construction of the masts La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - 2019 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 1 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 2 La Créole - Scale 1/48, French corvette - standing rigging - part 3 See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
mtaylor Posted September 12, 2013 #58 Posted September 12, 2013 Chris, Sweet work on the cheeks and trailboards. Been shopping at Ancre', I see. Impressive. Only two builds for the rest of your life????? I have faith that you'll get more than two done. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
ChrisLBren Posted September 12, 2013 Author #59 Posted September 12, 2013 Thanks guys - Mark - rest of my life - yes - Le Gros Ventre will be full frame for sure - and Im toying with the idea of building the 3 Decker as L'Orient - Napoleon's Flagship at the Battle of the Nile full frame - enormous.... WackoWolf 1 Quote
druxey Posted September 13, 2013 #60 Posted September 13, 2013 Very nice going, Chris. It's very gratifying when the work one did years ago pays off. Speaking of years, when my only daughter was young, no modeling happened for ten years after she was a few months old. So, your expectation of two more models after this may be realistic, especially if one is a monster 110-gun ship.... Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
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