alpayed Posted August 8, 2019 #1 Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) Hi everyone. Here is a booklet I produced 30 years ago which I have revised and updated. Enjoy. Regards Allan PLANKING_COLOUR.pdf Edited September 12, 2019 by alpayed Full colour edition added Macika, chris watton, Jim CT and 35 others 34 4 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
Mirabell61 Posted August 8, 2019 #2 Posted August 8, 2019 Nice work Allan ! Nils mtaylor 1 Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
Clark Posted August 8, 2019 #3 Posted August 8, 2019 Thanks a lot for the excellent and detailed description. Also thanks for ensuring that eyeballing is a proper method. Clark alpayed and mtaylor 2
stm Posted August 8, 2019 #4 Posted August 8, 2019 Thank you for sharing. Very thoughtful of you. Scott mtaylor 1
Baker Posted August 8, 2019 #5 Posted August 8, 2019 Very instructive. Thanks for sharing mtaylor 1 Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
alpayed Posted August 9, 2019 Author #6 Posted August 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Clark said: Thanks a lot for the excellent and detailed description. Also thanks for ensuring that eyeballing is a proper method. Clark Hi Clark, Oh yes I am a great one for just "eyeballing". If it looks right it must be somewhere near right. Regards Allan mtaylor 1 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
Clark Posted August 9, 2019 #7 Posted August 9, 2019 7 hours ago, alpayed said: Hi Clark, Oh yes I am a great one for just "eyeballing". If it looks right it must be somewhere near right. Regards Allan Within all the discussions about CAD and precision modelling, I felt a bit old fashioned when trusting the eyes. Clark mtaylor and bruce d 2
bruce d Posted August 9, 2019 #8 Posted August 9, 2019 26 minutes ago, Clark said: Within all the discussions about CAD and precision modelling, I felt a bit old fashioned when trusting the eyes. I feel the same way when I am reading about CAD, but when I am at my workbench with a piece of wood I use what I have and am satisfied. mtaylor 1 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold
alpayed Posted August 9, 2019 Author #9 Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Clark said: Within all the discussions about CAD and precision modelling, I felt a bit old fashioned when trusting the eyes. Clark I spent most of my working career designing machines etc and in latter years all on CAD. I don't make models to do that. I can understand why people get excited about 3D printing something they have modeled in CAD. I spent so long doing that the interest has waned. I would much rather wind up rope. I built a rope walk to make the rope for my models. This type of thing is what I enjoy and eyeballing sizes etc is all part of it. However I get huge satisfaction from building an item from scratch with raw materials, basic tools, my hands and eyeballing. Although I don't mind kits and kit bashing I throw out any component that is not up to scratch and make it myself. If the part is good and I know I could make it myself, why bother, just use it. Here is a pic of "Lightning's" rigging with some of that rope walks product. Also a CAD drawing of Chapman's Lobster Howker I did in 1985. The drawings and the CAD modeling is only a means to an end for me. Regards Allan oakheart, SJSoane, bruce d and 5 others 8 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
mtaylor Posted August 10, 2019 #10 Posted August 10, 2019 I'm going to move this topic and pin it in the planking area. I will get more visibility. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Matt H Posted August 10, 2019 #11 Posted August 10, 2019 Thank you for sharing, I just downloaded it to my various other digital "Ship Books", as the folder on my computer is called. I'll be reading through it in the days and weeks to come as I begin my second build. mtaylor 1 Matt Completed Builds: Viking Drakkar - Amati - Scale 1:50 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:48
alpayed Posted August 10, 2019 Author #12 Posted August 10, 2019 1 hour ago, mtaylor said: I'm going to move this topic and pin it in the planking area. I will get more visibility. No problems Matt. mtaylor 1 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
Jag Posted September 15, 2019 #13 Posted September 15, 2019 Thanks for this, alpayed! I just had a quick look and definitely a big help for a complete novice like me. I haven't built anything yet as I am trying to get as much information I can before building a ship. This might be a bit off topic, how did you get that kind of colour on the ship on your first page. Is that just varnish? Will the colour/type of paint part of the instruction? mtaylor 1
alpayed Posted September 15, 2019 Author #14 Posted September 15, 2019 Hi Jag. The model is just coated with polyurethane. (varnish) No colours have been used. The planking is New Zealand Kauri. Wales are heartwood Nectarine. Deck planking is Australian Murray pine. Model is of HMS Supply. The document was originally written for plans of HMS Supply Regards Allan. hollowneck, mtaylor, Charlie1805 and 8 others 11 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
BETAQDAVE Posted September 15, 2019 #15 Posted September 15, 2019 Allan, that is a finely detailed job there. mtaylor and Blue Pilot 2 Dave “You’ve just got to know your limitations” Dirty Harry Current Builds: Modified MS 1/8” scale Phantom, and modified plastic/wood hybrid of Aurora 1:87 scale whaling bark Wanderer. Past Builds: (Done & sold) 1/8” scale A.J. Fisher 2 mast schooner Challenge, 1/6” scale scratch built whaler Wanderer w/ plans & fittings from A.J. Fisher, and numerous plastic kits including 1/8” scale Revell U.S.S. Constitution (twice), Cutty Sark, and Mayflower. (Done & in dry dock) Modified 1/8” scale Revell U.S.S. Constitution w/ wooden deck and masting [too close encounter w/conc. floor in move] Hope to get to builds: MS 3/16” scale Pride of Baltimore II, MS 1/2” scale pinky schooner Glad Tidings, a scratch build 3/16” scale Phantom, and a scratch build 3/16" scale Denis Sullivan.
Jag Posted September 15, 2019 #16 Posted September 15, 2019 wow! just wow, Allan.. Really amazing... Thanks Blue Pilot and mtaylor 2
shipman Posted December 2, 2019 #17 Posted December 2, 2019 Allan, your planking pdf is a welcome and generous contribution. Much appreciated, thank you. alpayed, Blue Pilot and mtaylor 3
English Rebel Posted May 3, 2020 #18 Posted May 3, 2020 Thanks, this will be invaluable when I build my first model. Alan alpayed and mtaylor 2 Current build, Disar Models - Altsu Mendi Basque Tugboat. Kits on hand for next builds: Victory Models - Scottish Fishing Vessel Fifie: Vanguard Models - Zulu 'Lady Isabella': : Mantu Models - Trotamares Motor Schooner. Finished, Chris Craft Runabout.
Allamagoosa Posted May 22, 2020 #19 Posted May 22, 2020 On 8/8/2019 at 1:47 AM, alpayed said: Hi everyone. Here is a booklet I produced 30 years ago which I have revised and updated. Enjoy. Regards Allan PLANKING_COLOUR.pdf 15.63 MB · 1,185 downloads Impressive. Thanks! alpayed, mtaylor and Y.T. 3 Current Build: San Francisco (original) - Artesania Latina Completed: Longboat 18th Century (MS1457) - Model Shipways Bluenose II - Billings Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Admiral_Farragut Posted June 4, 2020 #20 Posted June 4, 2020 Thank you for the detailed instructions book! really helpful alpayed and mtaylor 2
MERTO Posted June 22, 2020 #21 Posted June 22, 2020 Thank you for this booklet. I am currently planking(with difficulty) a Corel model of the Sloup kit, and I will study your suggestions carefully. alpayed 1
vmwilson1 Posted June 23, 2020 #22 Posted June 23, 2020 Thank you for your planking instructions. I have read a few others but yours appears to provide more details. I just completed my first build - HMS Bounty by Constructo. I had a heck of a time with the planking but with months of perseverance I was able to complete the task with an ok look. I am currently building the San Ildefonso by Occre. With your planking instructions, I think I will have an easier time with the planking. Vic alpayed 1
alpayed Posted June 25, 2020 Author #23 Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/24/2020 at 3:50 AM, vmwilson1 said: I am currently building the San Ildefonso by Occre Hi Vic. That looks like a nice kit. Keep us posted with the build. Regards Allan Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
Photo Bud Posted October 24, 2020 #24 Posted October 24, 2020 Just downloaded this and it seems really great, but I can't find figures 1 or 2, although there is a 2A, B, and C. Should I assume figure 2 is the sum of the 3? The Old Curmudgeon. Current Build(s): Cutty Sark by Photo Bud - Revell - 1:220 Endeavour by Photo Bud - Amati - 1:80
alpayed Posted October 26, 2020 Author #25 Posted October 26, 2020 Hi bud. You are correct. Fig 1 is missing. I will fix it an upload a revised version. Stay tuned. Thanks for pointing it out. Kind regards Allan. Ryland Craze 1 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
alpayed Posted October 26, 2020 Author #26 Posted October 26, 2020 Hi Guys. Here is the revised booklet with Fig 1 included. Regards Allan PLANKING_rD.pdf Bob Cleek, Hozhabr and Fernando E 3 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
Fernando E Posted April 4, 2021 #27 Posted April 4, 2021 Hi Allan Many thanks for a very informative booklet. Although I have completed 4 builds (and about to finish my 5th) there is always something to learn in this very enjoyable hobby! Cheers..............Fernando Current Builds - Colonial Brig Perseverance 1807 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - 1:48 scale Previous Builds - S Lucia by Fernando E - Panart - Scale 1:30 Sloop Norfolk 1798 by Fernando E - Modellers Shipyard - Scale 1:36
Hashir Posted March 11, 2022 #28 Posted March 11, 2022 Hi. I am doing a scale model for MAERSK Triple E Shipping Container. The Model will be painted so planking details are not so important. Just wanted to ask if the overall dimensions of the ship are 36"L x 6"W x 3"H (Hull Only), what thickness plank should I be using? I opted for 1.5mm but while planking I began to have second doubts. Would really appreciate to receive suggestions... mtaylor 1
alpayed Posted March 11, 2022 Author #29 Posted March 11, 2022 Hi Hashir. 2.5 to 3mm is a good thickness to work with. That would alter your overall width though. Maybe that doesn't matter. Allan. mtaylor 1 Models finished: Too many to list. Current build. Danmark (kit bash)
Hashir Posted March 12, 2022 #30 Posted March 12, 2022 9 hours ago, alpayed said: Hi Hashir. 2.5 to 3mm is a good thickness to work with. That would alter your overall width though. Maybe that doesn't matter. Allan. Thanks for the advice, Allan. Really helped me make my mind. While I was cutting strips for planking, I noticed that 3mm thickness wood strips were not easy to bend over the bulkheads. I wasn't interested in steam-bending them so that's why. I'll try to start a log and post pictures of how I'm progressing. mtaylor 1
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