Rustyj Posted August 10, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 10, 2019 Hi all, I'm starting my build log for the new and improved Winchelsea. I'm looking forward to building her here with everyone. I have yet to decide what woods I will build her in but most likely it will be pear or boxwood. I won't be able to start any real work on her until late September as work intrudes on my shop time this time of year. What little free time I will have I'll be printing and reviewing the plans and monograph and ordering up what supplies I may need. I'll also have the pleasure of living vicariously through all the builds that start before me. Saburo, JeffT, Chuck and 2 others 5 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle17 Posted August 10, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 10, 2019 Knowing your work and your expertise it will not be too long before you are pacing alongside the master and his protégé! I on the other hand will be learning from the masters. Happy to have you in the fray. Joe Rustyj, Jorge Diaz O and FrankWouts 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share #3 Posted September 30, 2019 Alright now the overtime is done, a short R&R vacation is over so now it's time to get back into the shop! Here's a comparison of the 1:64 vs the new 1:48 version of the Winnie. She's a big one alright! First up I made the build board. 3/4" 7 ply 14" x 36" plywood was used. I added two 1" x 2" "stiffeners" to the back side to ensure the build board didn't warp. I then made up four sets of brackets from some cherry stock I had available. I made four sets because that's how much wood I had and more is always better right? Now that the build board is complete I can start cutting out bulkheads, stem and keel. Matt D, Ryland Craze, VTHokiEE and 14 others 17 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted September 30, 2019 Share #4 Posted September 30, 2019 You are off and running!!! I am so glad to see you dive in the deep end Rusty. I am looking forward to seeing your progress. Chuck Rustyj and FrankWouts 2 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted October 1, 2019 I can't wait to start ripping wood. You know it's been killing me these last two months having to wait to get started and only being able to follow along watching everyone else make so much progress! FrankWouts, Ryland Craze, ChrisLBren and 4 others 7 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted October 2, 2019 Share #6 Posted October 2, 2019 Nice to see you start Rusty. FrankWouts and Rustyj 2 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted October 2, 2019 Share #7 Posted October 2, 2019 On 9/30/2019 at 10:21 PM, Rustyj said: I can't wait to start ripping wood. You know it's been killing me these last two months having to wait to get started and only being able to follow along watching everyone else make so much progress! You’re still getting in on the ground floor, Rusty. As far as I can tell, no one is done with chapter one yet and several of us have had to back up a step or two. I think you’re starting at a perfect time. I really like that there are so many of us to share this build with. Welcome aboard, mate! Rustyj and FrankWouts 2 Current Build: HMS Winchelsea 1:48 (Group Project) Completed Builds: Virginia 1819 Artesania Latina - 1:41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 2, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted October 2, 2019 Hi Ben. I know we talked about another project earlier but when the Winnie came around I had to build her! Thanks for the welcome Matt. I look forward to building alongside everyone. Thanks for all the like too! For printing the bulkheads I purchased a ream of 28lb paper instead the normal 20lb paper. I felt that the extra thickness would help keep the paper from stretching/distorting when the glue was applied and then pressing them onto the plywood. Probably overkill but it made me feel better. I use rubber paper cement from Elmer's to glue the bulkheads to the lite ply. To help keep tear out on the back side to a minimum I use a very fine scroll saw blade from Saw Bird. Someone from here turned me onto them years ago but I don't remember who so I can't give credit where it's due. I used a double tooth 24 TPI blade that is 5" long and .031"wide x .013" thick. Much finer than a regular blade. Here is the backside of one bulkhead. It is just as it came off the scroll saw. One down and a whole bunch more to go! GrandpaPhil, shihawk, Justin P. and 13 others 16 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted October 10, 2019 I've completed cutting out all of the bulkheads. Nothing to difficult. Just slow going and as you know there's a lot of them. Next I'll cut out the three sections for the former. Something I do while I'm cutting out the former and while I'm not working on the bulkheads I always keep a weight on them. Though the humidity is a fairly constant 50% I still don't want to take any chances. Dave B, GrandpaPhil, JpR62 and 12 others 15 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle17 Posted October 10, 2019 Share #10 Posted October 10, 2019 Good idea Rusty on weighting them down. My environment is a bit more humid and I have even got in the habit of covering the work in progress with plastic sheeting. Those scroll saw blades do a great job by the way! Question: I believe you said you were using Birch ply is that correct. Is it Baltic Birch? Joe FrankWouts and Saburo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 10, 2019 Author Share #11 Posted October 10, 2019 Thanks Joe, I'm really happy with the blades too. I used the lite ply from national balsa. FrankWouts and Justin P. 2 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 14, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted October 14, 2019 Progress continues, The former has been cut out and the rabbet strip attached. Next is to cut out and assemble the stem knee assembly and keel. Here are the parts laid out on swiss pear. Here is the stem knee cut out and ready for fitting all of the pieces together. The fun is just beginning!!!!! GrandpaPhil, JpR62, Justin P. and 19 others 22 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted October 14, 2019 Share #13 Posted October 14, 2019 And fun it is!!! Enjoy the ride. Justin P., FrankWouts, CaptMorgan and 1 other 4 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted October 15, 2019 Share #14 Posted October 15, 2019 Nice work Rusty ? Are you building in all pear as well ? I had to swap out a few parts on my stem - hoping to get it together this weekend finally ! FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted October 15, 2019 Hi Chris. So far pear it is. I thought about Cherry but I had more pear on hand. Thanks for all the likes too! FrankWouts 1 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted October 15, 2019 Share #16 Posted October 15, 2019 Hey Rusty, looks like Ike we have the same thing in mind, if I build her I will use Pear for the Stem, Knee, Keel, sternpost and rudder, ebony for the false keel, and Cedar for most of the rest - a la my Pegasus build, I love that color combination. look forward to seeing your progress to give me inspiration Ben Ryland Craze, FrankWouts and Rustyj 3 Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 16, 2019 Author Share #17 Posted October 16, 2019 Hi Ben, That sounds like a really nice way to do it. Right now I'm thinking stem and planking all in pear. Saburo, Trussben and FrankWouts 3 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shihawk Posted October 16, 2019 Share #18 Posted October 16, 2019 Lookin good Rusty . I am also in the pear camp but am thinking pear up to the wales and possibly Tulip above but still not decided . Have noticed a lot of builds with diff colors above and below the wales ? FrankWouts 1 HMS Victory by Shihawk. Billing 1-75 wood finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted October 17, 2019 Thanks shihawk. I know there are two camps on this. One is the same color above and below the wales and the other is using two different woods. I'm in favor of whatever you think looks good. shihawk, Ryland Craze, garyshipwright and 1 other 4 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted October 19, 2019 Hi All, I've assembled the stem, keel and bulkheads. Now you're probably wondering where the pictures of the assembled stem is. Well that makes two of us. Somewhere in cyber space I would assume. Seeing that the stem and keel are now covered with blue painters tape I can't take another picture. Sorry we'll just have to wait until the hull has been faired. Limbering up the shoulders and hands for the numerous hours of sanding. rafine, shihawk, bruce d and 13 others 16 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 27, 2019 Author Share #21 Posted October 27, 2019 After several days of sanding, numerous sheets of sand paper and sanding sticks later the hull is roughly faired. I estimate I have 12-15 hours of sanding and more than a few Aleve tablets into the hull so far. After the port framing is completed more fairing will be needed. Here I've started to place the port framing. I would cut and fit several at a time and then leave them next to the former until I glued them in place. This way I could make several at a time and then glue several in place. This method helps me not mix them up and keep them in the correct order. I'll work to the bow and then to the stern. No real reason why just the way I'm doing it. dvm27, FrankWouts, Matt D and 21 others 24 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JpR62 Posted October 27, 2019 Share #22 Posted October 27, 2019 Superb work. This frigate really has beautiful lines. Thank You for sharing. FrankWouts 1 Jean-Paul 'You are not carving a bear with a chain saw here folks', Chuck Passaro, ´Queen Anne Style Barge´ manual of instructions Current builds : Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 - Syren Ship Model Company - 1:48 Santa Maria boat 1492 - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:24 Captain John Smith's shallop - Korabel (Ukraine) - 1:32 Finished build : Queen Anne Barge - Syren Ship Model - 1:24 Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways - 1:48 Batelina - MarisStella - 1:10 Next on list : HMS Winchelsea 1764 - Syren Ship Model - 1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted October 27, 2019 Share #23 Posted October 27, 2019 Looks great Rusty! FrankWouts 1 Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigersteve Posted October 27, 2019 Share #24 Posted October 27, 2019 Nice! FrankWouts 1 Current: Mayflower- Model Shipways Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory- Model Shipways English Pinnace- Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat- Model Shipways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Rogers Posted October 28, 2019 Share #25 Posted October 28, 2019 Have you thought about what kind of stand you are going to set her on? If pedestals now would be the time to put extra wood in to screw into. What frames would you set them in if you were to use pedestals? FrankWouts 1 Regards, Jim Rogers Damn the Torpedoes , Full speed ahead. Adm David Farragut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisLBren Posted October 28, 2019 Share #26 Posted October 28, 2019 Looking good Rusty !!! FrankWouts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted October 28, 2019 Share #27 Posted October 28, 2019 Looks great Rusty. If you've enjoyed the exterior fairing, wait until you get to the interior-- even more fun. Bob Captain Poison, Justin P., Matt D and 2 others 4 1 Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share #28 Posted October 29, 2019 Thank you Jean-Paul. Yes she is a beauty. Thanks Jeff, Tigersteve and Chris and all the likes too. Jim I really haven't given any thought about using a stand or pedestals or whatever way I'm going to mount her. Thank you for bring that up as it would be smart to reinforce for pedestals before planking the hull. I think I would locate them somewhere between bulkheads G, I, K and 9, 11, 13. No real reason other than it looks like a nice distance from the bow and stern. Thanks Bob. Yes I do remember how much "fun" sanding the interior of the Confederacy was so this will be even more fun. My shoulders hurt already. Captain Poison and FrankWouts 2 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted October 29, 2019 Share #29 Posted October 29, 2019 Its great exercise!!!!😏 FrankWouts and Rustyj 1 1 Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share #30 Posted October 29, 2019 11 hours ago, Chuck said: Its great exercise!!!!😏 My right arm will look like Popeye's when I get done! Chuck, FrankWouts, bdgiantman2 and 1 other 3 1 Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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