RGL Posted March 5, 2020 Share #1 Posted March 5, 2020 Years ago I got the Anatomy Of The Ship book Bartolomeo Colleoni, and thought what a beautiful ship. So many of the pre WW2 Italian ships were, (but not that good in the real thing with other navies with Radar). The Trumpeter Zara is a new mold, with nice features and a decent upgrade sets on a slow boat from China. I got some Profile Morskie line drawings as well. I've spent the last few weeks scouring the internets for photos and references, most of the research gold is from Russian sites so my plan is to populate a lot of this build with photos of Zara that are very very hard to find. cog, Jack12477, GrandpaPhil and 13 others 16 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #2 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) A few more photos, some are of her sister ships. A wonderful open source site for ships plans in the Russian language and there is also a forum with 130 pages of every Italian ship imaginable. http://forums.airbase.ru/2007/07/t30810_99--chertezhi-korablej.html Why the red and white bow? because the Italian air force at the beginning of WW2 attacked every ship they saw so the navy had to paint them for recognition Edited March 5, 2020 by RGL Canute, mikegr, Ryland Craze and 11 others 14 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted March 5, 2020 Share #3 Posted March 5, 2020 sparse pictures? looks like a really good ship to model Greg. wonder what type of planes those are. no doubt you'll do well with her Jack12477, thibaultron, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #4 Posted March 5, 2020 So all up the ship is a little over 50cm. Hull already drilled and wooden blocks put in for the brass stands the stern has some moulded prop guards which need to be replaced the bow has a little node for the paravane chains this is one if the Italian cruisers (can’t really understand its source) being salvaged after WW2 in Taranto Italy, but is shows it’s quite substantial lmagna, popeye the sailor, american and 8 others 11 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share #5 Posted March 5, 2020 The bow piece has some very nice etched in panels, but a silly faux chain which will have to go. the railings for the seaplane will be replaced. As well as the coverings so I can park one below decks. The kit only gives you 1 so I bought some more to make mistakes with. the stern has some nice plastic wood on which I’ll be putting a stick on deck. mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, Jack12477 and 13 others 16 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted March 5, 2020 Share #6 Posted March 5, 2020 Another impressive project. I will be following with a lot of interests. Yves popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted March 5, 2020 Share #7 Posted March 5, 2020 An Italian cruiser. I'm in. popeye the sailor, thibaultron, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 6, 2020 Share #8 Posted March 6, 2020 I'm just following along and watching another masterpiece.... RGL, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 6, 2020 Share #9 Posted March 6, 2020 Great, another masterpiece on the go! Jan popeye the sailor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #10 Posted March 7, 2020 This class of ship carried two observation aircraft in front of the fore turret. The kit provided a single aircraft and I want to have two so I bought a six pack of them, an Imam Ro.43. I've sacrificed one for scale practice so I can see how it fits in the hangar. lmagna, GrandpaPhil, american and 10 others 13 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #11 Posted March 7, 2020 Next is the hangar itself. This took me forever to find diagrams of it, The rails and hanger deck of the actual kit are not to scale by the looks of it and needed widening. So eventually it should look like this ccoyle, american, Jack12477 and 8 others 11 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #12 Posted March 7, 2020 So there are two large panels that cover the hangar that slide (or are lifted) to the side and the crane lifts the aircraft out or in. This diagram shows an older version of aircraft with wings that were removed, ands with a hoist, but it appears the Trumpeter Zara kept this width were the WW2 version obviously widened the hatches. . This is a screen capture from a gentleman who made a 1/100 radio controlled model of Zara. Notice how he has a wider and longer deck hatch as well. hexnut, popeye the sailor, ErnieL and 12 others 15 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 7, 2020 Share #13 Posted March 7, 2020 1 hour ago, RGL said: S Is it just me, but looking at the wakes, is the ship going in reverse? The other pics looked right but these two have me scratching my head. popeye the sailor, Canute and thibaultron 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #14 Posted March 7, 2020 So, made up a little hangar bay to park up the second floatplane ccoyle, mtaylor, Edwardkenway and 14 others 17 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted March 7, 2020 Share #15 Posted March 7, 2020 Beautiful and detailed. I really don't know how you do stuff that tiny but it's pure artistry. lmagna, thibaultron, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #16 Posted March 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, mtaylor said: Is it just me, but looking at the wakes, is the ship going in reverse? The other pics looked right but these two have me scratching my head. It must be given that’s the focsle, the configuration is of a Zara Class Cruiser now mtaylor, Canute, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yvesvidal Posted March 7, 2020 Share #17 Posted March 7, 2020 I like your research efforts to improve on the Trumpeter kit. Sounds familiar to me.... ;-) Yves popeye the sailor, mtaylor, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted March 7, 2020 Share #18 Posted March 7, 2020 10 hours ago, mtaylor said: Is it just me, but looking at the wakes, is the ship going in reverse? The other pics looked right but these two have me scratching my head. I was expecting an Italian joke to pop up here, but it didn't directly, so no more need be said... mtaylor, Canute, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted March 7, 2020 Share #19 Posted March 7, 2020 Oh goody, another RGL masterpiece to follow. Nice job so far! Is it me, or does it seem like the Italians put wonderful lines and other design elements in everything they make? Clothes, cars, warships, etc. thibaultron, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted March 7, 2020 Share #20 Posted March 7, 2020 Did Zara ever had a camouflage pattern, or will she just be plain (ah well, we know what you do with plain ) grey? Jan lmagna, Canute, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share #21 Posted March 7, 2020 She didn’t last long enough to get a dazzle pattern. She would have been better served with flash less gun power (the Italian Navy didn’t order and) for night battles and radar popeye the sailor, lmagna, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american Posted March 7, 2020 Share #22 Posted March 7, 2020 The text above the picture sais that this is Fiume floating backwards popeye the sailor, thibaultron, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share #23 Posted March 8, 2020 Cool, a Russian speaker!!! Nearly all my research is from Russian sites popeye the sailor, lmagna, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share #24 Posted March 8, 2020 So what I’m awaiting from China (apparently it’s on the way but everything is so slow due to the flu), Shipyard works upgrade with a wooden deck as well apparently hexnut, popeye the sailor, american and 9 others 12 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american Posted March 8, 2020 Share #25 Posted March 8, 2020 Yes. And I will be glad to help. In fact Russian is close to my native language. thibaultron, lmagna, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share #26 Posted March 9, 2020 Hull together, bilge keels and shafts added. I can now do up the hull plates after an overspray of primer lmagna, popeye the sailor, Canute and 8 others 11 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javlin Posted March 9, 2020 Share #27 Posted March 9, 2020 I know it's not a cruiser but a video of the Roma's interior starts @ 3:00 is like an ocean liner by the way love the details of the hangar Kevin lmagna, hexnut, RGL and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share #28 Posted March 9, 2020 It’s just amazing how classy the interior details are. Amazingly impractical but stylish. hexnut, CDW, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted March 9, 2020 Share #29 Posted March 9, 2020 Nice choice! Running to keep up again. You really can't hold a steady pace mate. Lovely progress on the airplane bay though popeye the sailor, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted March 9, 2020 Share #30 Posted March 9, 2020 Small tip - when your parcel arrives from china - sanitize it - just in case. OC. cog, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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