realworkingsailor Posted May 22, 2013 Author #511 Posted May 22, 2013 Same here. All the fish I'm catching are pre-frozen Sounds like you're doind what my neighbour jokingly said he does.... go fishing.. catch nothing... head to the grocery store... buy "fresh caught" fish.... Works a little more convincingly if you don't buy the frozen ones... trippwj 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
trippwj Posted May 22, 2013 #512 Posted May 22, 2013 Also would help if Augie didn't buy Tilapia and Salmon at the grocery store.... Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
realworkingsailor Posted May 22, 2013 Author #513 Posted May 22, 2013 You could get away with the salmon.... although not this time of year... Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
augie Posted May 22, 2013 #514 Posted May 22, 2013 Tilapia is not a fish. There were NO great Portuguese fleets heading to the Grand Banks for tilapia! Hit a lake last week at 9,000 foot elevation. Water temp = 38 degrees F. My waders are still frozen in the garage Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
realworkingsailor Posted May 22, 2013 Author #515 Posted May 22, 2013 Better check the bottoms for any missing toes... augie 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Shazmira Posted May 22, 2013 #516 Posted May 22, 2013 I tried to serve some line by hand too.... not very successfully.... I think a trip to the hobby shop is in order... I'm going to try to make my own machine, but I need parts that I don't have on hand... Andy I am doing all my serving by hand as well...not very pretty at all, but I am NOT an engineer and have not worked out a way to make a serving machine with things I have around. If I could build one for $20 or less I would get the things I need. I fear that price is not possible. There must be a better way to serve the lines without a big expense involved but I have yet to stumble upon it. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
trippwj Posted May 22, 2013 #517 Posted May 22, 2013 Looking at your picture, Andy, and for a moment I thought you had broken someone's heart.... Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
realworkingsailor Posted May 22, 2013 Author #518 Posted May 22, 2013 I am doing all my serving by hand as well...not very pretty at all, but I am NOT an engineer and have not worked out a way to make a serving machine with things I have around. If I could build one for $20 or less I would get the things I need. I fear that price is not possible. There must be a better way to serve the lines without a big expense involved but I have yet to stumble upon it. Well, a model train store (especially one that does repairs in-house) is usually well stocked with gears and brass tubing and a few other odds and ends. I don't expect to spend much more than $20 on parts.... I'll let everyone know how it goes... Andy Shazmira 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Shazmira Posted May 22, 2013 #519 Posted May 22, 2013 If you succeed, I will happily pay you to make me one!!! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
realworkingsailor Posted May 22, 2013 Author #520 Posted May 22, 2013 Hah! Tell you what... If this works... I'll post the parts list and instructions for free... Andy mtaylor, newbuilder101 and Shazmira 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
newbuilder101 Posted May 22, 2013 #521 Posted May 22, 2013 Good luck on that project...I'll be watching too! Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
texxn5 Posted May 22, 2013 #522 Posted May 22, 2013 Very nice build. You've done a really nice job on details. I look forward to your progress. John realworkingsailor 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com
Jim Lad Posted May 22, 2013 #523 Posted May 22, 2013 Looking forward to seeing your serving machine, Andy! Hmm, the weather must be odd; it's pretty cold over here too - oh, yeah, it's autumn, isn't it? John augie 1 Quote
Shazmira Posted May 23, 2013 #524 Posted May 23, 2013 Deal Andy! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
popeye the sailor Posted May 23, 2013 #525 Posted May 23, 2013 I'll look forward to it..........never done it before. so far, I've been able to get by with using different diameter threads Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
realworkingsailor Posted May 23, 2013 Author #526 Posted May 23, 2013 Well... I've completed a prototype...I'll test it in the morning and if all goes well, I'll share the results of my efforts. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
mtaylor Posted May 23, 2013 #527 Posted May 23, 2013 Andy, What???? We have to wait until morning???? Arrgggghhhhhh....... Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
trippwj Posted May 23, 2013 #528 Posted May 23, 2013 Okay, Andy - my clock thingy says it is 05:43....that's morning, right????? Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
gjdale Posted May 23, 2013 #529 Posted May 23, 2013 Andy / Robbyn, Don't know if you've seen this: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1594-serving-machine-20-not-just-serves-ropes/?hl=%2Bserving+%2Bmachine I bought one of these recently and it seems to be pretty good, although to tell the truth I haven't actually used it in anger yet. Thought you might be interested as an option to making your own. A little more than $20, but worth it IMO. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
realworkingsailor Posted May 23, 2013 Author #530 Posted May 23, 2013 I think I was browsing around there at some point in time... Not sure if it really registered or not... Anyway... I'm going to test my machine soon so sometime in the next couple of hours look for an update.... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
realworkingsailor Posted May 23, 2013 Author #531 Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Well... I'm feeling pretty proud of myself right now... my machine works like a charm! The basic structure is made out of 0.080" Styrene sheet. It is 3" wide and 7 1/2" Long. This allows about 6" of line to be served at one time, and is within the structural limits of styrene. It's probably at the small end of things, but it's big enough for me. I managed to get the gears at no cost (one of the benifits of being friends with the hobby shop manager ), and the total cost is well below the $20 limit. There's not much point in going into gear spacing, because it will all depend on what size gears you get. Mine are all drive gears from model locomotives, around 3/4" nominal diameter. To space them out, I added two middle idler gears. The shaft size of the end gears was 5/32" and the idler was somewhere around 2.5mm, which I drilled out to 1/8". This allowed me to use standard styrene stock rod and tubing for the gear axles. The end plates are 3" square, and the gears are lined up 3/4" below the top edge. I made a gearcase cover over the idler and spindle gears, both to keep them in place and keep the rope from getting caught. The structure is all glued together with Tenax plastic glue, and the gears are held in place with a bit of CA. If anyone wants further instructions, just PM me.. Andy Edited May 23, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Sjors Posted May 23, 2013 #532 Posted May 23, 2013 I see that Morope is loosing another customer….. Nice machine Andy! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
augie Posted May 23, 2013 #533 Posted May 23, 2013 Neat! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
mtaylor Posted May 23, 2013 #534 Posted May 23, 2013 I'm with "no name" and "Ishmeal" Looks great. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
st george Posted May 23, 2013 #535 Posted May 23, 2013 Great looking Serving machine you made Andy. David Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat
realworkingsailor Posted May 23, 2013 Author #536 Posted May 23, 2013 Thanks guys! And what's more, I've wasted little time in using it. And it's more than up to the task. Just to prove it, the mizzen shrouds trippwj and mobbsie 2 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy
Sjors Posted May 23, 2013 #537 Posted May 23, 2013 Pictures….Very nice Andy! I have to keep that in mind for the next build….no complete mast before the shrouds are on it. Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Trussben Posted May 23, 2013 #538 Posted May 23, 2013 That's an interesting serving machine you made there Andy, can you strop blocks on it as well?? Ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
popeye the sailor Posted May 23, 2013 #539 Posted May 23, 2013 the only big question is .........where would a guy like myself find the gears to make it? Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Sjors Posted May 23, 2013 #540 Posted May 23, 2013 You can build them at large scale Popeye, Just take a trailer from your work, put some gears in it and voila….one machine trippwj 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
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