Script Posted May 10, 2013 Share #361 Posted May 10, 2013 Sherry, Was that a beer glass or a wine glass that was dangling? I assume it was empty?.... Cheers, Jim gjdale, trippwj and newbuilder101 3 Quote Completed Robert E Lee, Misisssippi riverboat Completed, HMS Victory Bow Section Completed, Wells Fargo Stagecoach...Picasa album.... Completed, Lackawanna tugboat converted to private yacht... Completed: Sopwith Camel, 1:16 Scale, Model Airways...at another location... Completed: 1961 Ferrari F-1 Sharknose Completed: (sorta) OcCre BR-18 Locomotive Completed: 1/35 Pz.KPfw.III Completed: Allerton Steam Pumper circa 1869 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share #362 Posted May 10, 2013 Alright.. some more fodder for the photo hounds.... And to keep a certain You-Know-Who.. and a certain slave-driver of a moderator happy , or if not happy.. satisfied enough to lay off the whip for an hour or so... First bit of standing rigging... the gammoning. And this morning's progress on the bands on the top of the main mast. Andy augie, mtaylor, trippwj and 5 others 8 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted May 10, 2013 Share #363 Posted May 10, 2013 Great start on the rigging Andy. Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trussben Posted May 10, 2013 Share #364 Posted May 10, 2013 SWEET Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted May 10, 2013 Share #365 Posted May 10, 2013 Looking very sharp, Andy. The Gammoning came out quite nicely. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted May 10, 2013 Share #366 Posted May 10, 2013 Hi Andy -- I've been checking out your log surreptitiously and now I have to weigh in and say that your work looks good. That gammoning is espcially nice. I'll also be really interested to see which way you go on the bunt dilemma. Cheers, Martin Quote Current Build: HMS FLY 1776 Previous Builds: Rattlesnake 1781 Prince de Neufchatel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share #367 Posted May 10, 2013 (edited) Thanks guys, I've since given the gammoning a coat of clear matte acrylic, did a good job of handling the fuzzies (that you guys couldn't see ), I'm probably going to use that throughout the rigging process. Andy Edited May 10, 2013 by realworkingsailor augie, Shazmira and mtaylor 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 10, 2013 Share #368 Posted May 10, 2013 I agree also, Nice work Andy. and its good to see the Peggy figurehead adorning her place at the stem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted May 10, 2013 Share #369 Posted May 10, 2013 looks very neat and tidy Andy, I will have to try your trick to tame the fuzzies...beeswax just doesn't seem to suffice for me, I think I handle it too much. Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padeen Posted May 10, 2013 Share #370 Posted May 10, 2013 'looks all ship shape to me Andy! Good job! Quote Padeen (Adeline) "When there is a will, there is a way" Completed build: Le Camaret - Constructo - static wood 1:35 (build log, gallery) Current build (very limited modelling time at the moment...): HMS Fly - Amati/Victory Models - static wood 1:64 (build log) Projected build: HMS Victory - Chris Watton's design - static wood 1:64 (when available..., no rush!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Script Posted May 10, 2013 Share #371 Posted May 10, 2013 Andy, Looking fine! Excellent close -ups...... Your anti-fuzzy treatment sounds intriguing. I've had problems with beeswax too. Cheers, Jim Quote Completed Robert E Lee, Misisssippi riverboat Completed, HMS Victory Bow Section Completed, Wells Fargo Stagecoach...Picasa album.... Completed, Lackawanna tugboat converted to private yacht... Completed: Sopwith Camel, 1:16 Scale, Model Airways...at another location... Completed: 1961 Ferrari F-1 Sharknose Completed: (sorta) OcCre BR-18 Locomotive Completed: 1/35 Pz.KPfw.III Completed: Allerton Steam Pumper circa 1869 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share #372 Posted May 10, 2013 looks very neat and tidy Andy, I will have to try your trick to tame the fuzzies...beeswax just doesn't seem to suffice for me, I think I handle it too much. The nice thing about doing it the way I just did, you can get all the knot tying and glueing out of they way first, then come back and coat the lines. Next time I'm down at the hobby shop, I'm going to pick up a bottle of matte medium, same basic stuff, but a little cheaper by volume One thing I will mention, the rigging line supplied by Amati isn't too fuzzy to begin with, so results may vary based on the line supplied. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted May 10, 2013 Share #373 Posted May 10, 2013 very nice Andy - good god another post to you - without a mention of wabbits - ooooops Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 10, 2013 Share #374 Posted May 10, 2013 Seems I read somewhere that beeswax is best if heated after applying. IIRC it was with a hair dryer or some such device, which helped melt the wax into the roping fibre. Of course this is from memory of something I've read, so dont hold me to it. Andy's method looks great, but again that could be related to how it started life, with or without fuzzies. When in doubt, try everything and use what works best for your application. I've seen some pretty amazing things used in unexpected ways. For instance Dubz (Dirk), wax treenails. check post #19 out http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/75-hmc-sherbourne-by-dubz-pimp-my-sherbourne/page-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 10, 2013 Author Share #375 Posted May 10, 2013 very nice Andy - good god another post to you - without a mention of wabbits - ooooops Your fault for that one Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 11, 2013 Share #376 Posted May 11, 2013 I been coating my threads with diluted white glue.......and then pulling it taught to dry. that works reasonably well. I've also stained white thread {the Billing's stuff I have} with india ink.....than also works well with the fuzz control. I'm not a real big fan of bees wax....not fond of how it collects on the deck while rigging. Shazmira 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share #377 Posted May 11, 2013 I do have some wax, but seeing how well the matte acrylic worked, I don't think I'll be using it. My next trick will be figuring out small scale serving (since I don't have a "machine").... I have done it in real life, and it wasn't that hard... We shall see.... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 11, 2013 Share #378 Posted May 11, 2013 hand serving doesn't seem hard, just mind numbingly slow, but what about this hobby isn't slow.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share #379 Posted May 11, 2013 Well.. before my mind goes numb, a quick little morning update.. The weekend is proving to have some good "indoor" weather... So I've started the wooldings on the mainmast this morning. And you can see the mizzen all painted up. Doing the battens on the mizzen top was... well... let's call it amusing... I think I'm also going to make a few changes. On the mizzen the Amati kit says to use a piece of walnut and make some sort of vertical pinrail, which to my mind looks more than a little wonky. Looking at TFFM IV (especially the colour section in the back), it looks more like there are supposed to be actual cleats on the mast (at first I thought it was some kind of spider band, but no..), looks muck better to my eye. That book is starting to open up a whole new can of worms... I may not follow it to the letter, but I can pick and choose the changes I feel I can make... Andy trippwj, gjdale and augie 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 11, 2013 Share #380 Posted May 11, 2013 you really have my interest sparked on that book. I've not added to my library as yet as I'm torn between wood and books. but as a bookoholic I will soon need to start working on a library. Interesting link I found searching for the book http://www.shipmodelersassociation.org/research/Masting_and_Rigging____the_whole_nine_yards__David_Antscherl__WSMC_E_2011.pdf?id_sma=0331SMA364077 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted May 11, 2013 Share #381 Posted May 11, 2013 Those tops look great, Andy. Coming along mighty fine! Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share #382 Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Oddly enough, Keith, those photos on the link you posted, are right out of TFFM IV.... Andy Edited May 11, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted May 11, 2013 Share #383 Posted May 11, 2013 Nicely done Andy. Of course, with such a great resource as TFFM, you will no doubt find that the more you "pick", the more you will "choose"! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share #384 Posted May 11, 2013 Nicely done Andy. Of course, with such a great resource as TFFM, you will no doubt find that the more you "pick", the more you will "choose"! Within the limits of my abilities and resources, of course Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted May 11, 2013 Share #385 Posted May 11, 2013 Looking great, Andy! hamilton Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 11, 2013 Share #386 Posted May 11, 2013 Nicely done Andy..... the gammoning looks great.... are you going to paint the figure head? Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share #387 Posted May 11, 2013 Thanks, Ham (you don't mind Ham? ) and Frank. Frank, the figurehead is already painted.. She was grey resin to begin with, I gave it a coat of white and then dry brushed and highlighted some of the details in black. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 11, 2013 Share #388 Posted May 11, 2013 Oooooops!! first my ----- went.....now my eyes are going!! Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted May 11, 2013 Author Share #389 Posted May 11, 2013 (edited) Hehehe, no worries, blame the fall of MSW 1.0 I had it all explained, way back then.. Andy Edited May 11, 2013 by realworkingsailor Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 11, 2013 Share #390 Posted May 11, 2013 doing a swell job Andy......good to see you moving right along. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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