realworkingsailor Posted September 13, 2013 Author Share #931 Posted September 13, 2013 There you go, Sjors, you didn't have to wait too long Of course, super close up does nobody any favours.... Anyway, the open heart for the forestay collar was made by cutting down an oversized heart. I'll use a smaller one for the preventer stay collar, but overall I like the appearance. The bobstay also looks much better now that it's served all over. Of course I can't much help having another gratuitous figrehead shot.... just to bug Augie That could be a new meme around here.... the gratuitous figurehead photo.... hmm.... A small pause for the weekend, a few more chores to take care of up north. Back monday-ish. Andy riverboat, augie, trippwj and 9 others 12 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted September 13, 2013 Share #932 Posted September 13, 2013 Andy, On the contrary in your case close-ups' highlight your super well replicated attention to details. Always a pleasure looking in on your build. Regards, Michael WackoWolf and realworkingsailor 2 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WackoWolf Posted September 13, 2013 Share #933 Posted September 13, 2013 The detail is right on Andy, excellent work. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted September 13, 2013 Share #934 Posted September 13, 2013 that gratuitous figurehead photo is obscene, who would be such a cad! Cover the childrens eyes Augie! Although Augie was showing his figurehead in public recently IIRC, that and his guns also. Nice job on the serving for the forestay collar. Thats some tedious and time consuming work but oh so well worth it. Nice job on the shrouds and lanyards also, Nice rope, was it kit or aftermarket. So india ink and alcohol to darken them, hum Thanks for that tidbit. So many great Ideas. I Liked that several species pun/ref a few pages back also realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted September 13, 2013 Share #935 Posted September 13, 2013 Looks fantastic Andy, the serving on your rigging elements really looks really looks great. I really want to give that go myself when I get to that stage but worried it will add another 6 months! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted September 13, 2013 Share #936 Posted September 13, 2013 Hi Andy, Thanks for the pictures ! The figure head looks just great! A real Pegasus…... The rigging looks also great. Every time when I see your rigging I know that I have a lot to learn ! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted September 13, 2013 Share #937 Posted September 13, 2013 Nice, Andy; very nice! John realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted September 13, 2013 Share #938 Posted September 13, 2013 Great detail in the rigging Andy very nicely done realworkingsailor 1 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted September 14, 2013 Share #939 Posted September 14, 2013 I so want to know how you get all your rigging to look neat and crisp, not a single blob of glue out of place, no fuzz, just perfect knots and perfect ropes! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share #940 Posted September 14, 2013 You're all going to make me hit my "like" quota for the day.. Keith, the rigging line is just the kit supplied line. Nothing special, really. Robbyn, I can't say enough about the combo of Amati rigging line and GS Hypo cement, it just wicks right in. I swear I put a small bead on every knot, but when I look back a few minutes later...... All gone. As for the fuzzies, the Amati line is fairly fuzz free. There is a bit, but nothing a quick brush-on of matte medium can't fix. Sjors, if anything, I'm just one page ahead of you in the "how-to rigging manual". TFFM IV has been invaluable. If you don't have a copy, order one for Anja for her birthday or Christmas, or just for whatever excuse you can come up with BW, I think serving is one element that can make a good model great. It is well worth the effort. Don't worry about the time factor, trust me, this is not a race, and done right is far more satisfying than done fast... Once again, thanks to everyone who has posted their positive comments, I really appreciate it Andy augie, Kevin and Sjors 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted September 14, 2013 Share #941 Posted September 14, 2013 Andy A wonderful bit of craftsmanship on the rigging so far, the serving does look very neat and tidy. Michael realworkingsailor 1 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted September 14, 2013 Share #942 Posted September 14, 2013 Andy, Anja is just laughing when I read this to her…. But I have the rigging period ship model from Lennarth Peterson? Is that also counting? realworkingsailor 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted September 14, 2013 Share #943 Posted September 14, 2013 Great work on the serving and all round - your rigging looks completely authentic. I'm going to have to learn how to serve a line - plenty of time for that before the skill is needed. I have the TFFM series so some of the equipment is in place... Cheers Alistair realworkingsailor 1 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted September 14, 2013 Share #944 Posted September 14, 2013 I've just spent an hour rummaging about in the house looking for cogs to make a 'serving machine'... no luck, am even to the point of considering a pair of old 90 min cassette tapes linked together by a dowel (not as daft as it sounds btw).. now I'm trying to think of local shops that may have devices with cogs in that can be ever so gently tapped with a sledgehammer... nuttin!! Time now to clean the house after the 'rummage' Oh and to put the clocks back together... Thanks Andy! :mellow: Just kiddin with the sarcasm.. tis a brilliant suggestion, I think I'll have to go online for the bits though. Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted September 14, 2013 Share #945 Posted September 14, 2013 Welcome back Andy, very nice work on the shrouds and stays, your serving looks fantastic. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted September 14, 2013 Share #946 Posted September 14, 2013 Your close up shots show how rigging is supposed to be... and an additional reason why I don't take close and tight shots of mine Your work is a fine example for us (me) rigging newbies. Merci! augie, Shazmira and realworkingsailor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 14, 2013 Author Share #947 Posted September 14, 2013 Sjors, good to hear Anja still has a sense of humour after your latest....uh....investment As for the Peterson book... I honestly wouldn't know, I've been meaning to pick up a copy. The thing with TFFM IV is that it takes you step by step in a nice logical sequence, and although the dimensions given are for an English sixth rate, they can easily be modified to suit larger ships. Alistair, serving isn't that hard....honest.... Figuring out how to construct the individual components... Not hard either.... Once you get your head wrapped around them Eamon, try a hobby shop that specializes in RC, especially one that actually does repairs, they should have a good supply of useable gears. Andy egkb, WackoWolf and Sjors 3 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share #948 Posted September 17, 2013 I'm back in town again. For the time being.... Hopefully I will get a chance to work on some more rigging today... Andy popeye the sailor 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted September 17, 2013 Share #949 Posted September 17, 2013 Looking forward to it Andy. You do great work. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted September 17, 2013 Share #950 Posted September 17, 2013 Welcome home again then, Pictures please ( of the rigging then ) trippwj 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share #951 Posted September 17, 2013 Looks like I'll have some pictures up tomorrow for you, Sjors. And just to make things interesting.... I have to head up to Thunder Bay on Saturday.... Back to work for a week or so....mutter grumble. Hopefully I'll make up the time at the beginning of next month... We'll see... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted September 17, 2013 Share #952 Posted September 17, 2013 So are you back to your newer old ship or the older new ship this trip? Now that made alot of sense? Hope you followed. So how late in the fall/winter do you work, or is that weather dependent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share #953 Posted September 18, 2013 Lets call it a new old ship... I guess that's about the best description Winter layup is generally dependant on cargo availability and the closing of the St. Lawrence Seaway, which usually shuts down Dec. 29-31. Bulkers (which I work on) usually don't work much beyond that point, some self unloaders can work later on the upper lakes, the Soo closes Jan 15, which shuts down Lake Superior, but the salt trade on Lake Huron/lake Michigan can run all winter if needed... (Both good reasons for me to stay on bulkers...) Andy trippwj 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share #954 Posted September 18, 2013 A small update with pictures... Fore preventer stay now installed as well as the outer bobstay. Lots of fun making those fully served strops.... hrmm... Of course all this ropework around the same area of the bowsprit encourages yet another GFP Next up I figure I'l go after the bowsprit shrouds, I stand a chance of getting them down before I have to go back to work. Boomkins will wait until later-ish. Then I'll go after the first round of ratlines. No I'm not putting that off, I just don't want to get in to such a lengthy process and have to stop. I want to be able to get them all done over the course of a solid week's work (I'm assuming a week... I dunno, could be longer ). Looking ahead, I'm going to also want to get the jeer tyes rigged up before things get too buried.... probably use them as a diversion from rattling... anyway, I'm rambling a bit.... so much to do, so little done... Andy mtaylor, popeye the sailor, egkb and 13 others 16 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jastrząb Posted September 18, 2013 Share #955 Posted September 18, 2013 Excellent Quote Paweł Current build: HMS Pandora: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/3409-hms-pandora-by-jastrz%C4%85b-constructo-185/ Finished projects: Roar Ege 1:25, Billing Boats Albatros 1:55, Constructo Santa Maria 1:50, Mantua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted September 18, 2013 Share #956 Posted September 18, 2013 That serving is starting to draw the attention away from the stark whiteness of Peggy. Beautiful full broadside/bow shot. It really shows off the consistent quality of the rigging. Even in a shot such as this one can see the detail in the rigging, the shrouds look great in contrast to the stays. She's one beautiful build! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted September 18, 2013 Share #957 Posted September 18, 2013 looking sweet Andy........ too bad you have to go back to work so soon Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted September 18, 2013 Share #958 Posted September 18, 2013 I thought you just got back? ...... your rigging skills are excellent Andy ... Frank Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted September 18, 2013 Author Share #959 Posted September 18, 2013 Thanks guys! Yeah, Frank, I just got back... And theyre sending me back out again.....Something about not being able organize a trip to the bathroom.... But anyway.... Andy riverboat 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted September 18, 2013 Share #960 Posted September 18, 2013 Fantastic work! Your Pegasus is one of my favorite builds to follow. realworkingsailor 1 Quote -- Jason www.crowntimberyard.com Current Builds: US Brig Syren MS Imperial Russian Cruiser Varyag - Artwox Model Echo Cross Section: SMSNJ Group Build Completed Builds: 18th Century Longboat MS USS Olympia Encore Member: Nautical Research Guild (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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