lb0190 Posted August 1, 2013 Share #841 Posted August 1, 2013 It's worse when they threaten to bring in the vacuum cleaner before you've had the chance to filter through what may be lying down there.. (small lost parts, important little bits of wood.... screws, nails....) I agree 100%. I dropped a very small cast part and looked everywhere for it. I'm sure it will show up one of these days, probably after I make and install it's replacement! Quote Regards, Larry ---------------------------------------------------- Current Build US Brig Niagara Completed Builds George W Washburn - 1890 Tugboat Future Builds 18th Century Longboat by MS HM Cutter Cheerful Wappen Von Hamburg by Corel If your not making mistakes, your not challenging yourself – my life has been full of challenges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 1, 2013 Share #842 Posted August 1, 2013 Hi Andy, Peg is looking really great mate, in fact I would say it's a complete miracle given the state of your workspace. If you tidied up now and again you wouldn't feel threatened by the Admirals hoover, mind you, you do say everything is to hand, if you can find it. You could always employ Sjors mate, he's pretty good at domesticity, for lost parts on the floor, a pair of tights over the end of the hoover hose. Looking forward to more updates of your excellent work on your rigging, enjoy my friend. Job done Grant. :D mobbsie realworkingsailor 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted August 1, 2013 Share #843 Posted August 1, 2013 Very nice Andy, I think she is turning out to be a real beauty! realworkingsailor 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #844 Posted August 6, 2013 Well.... We all knew this day would come.... I have been summoned to return to work... I leave Wednesday afternoon sometime... I first have to fly to Montreal to pick up my work gear (that I left on the ship I was assigned to, and is currently laid up there), then fly back to Toronot and join another ship in the Welland canal.... Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted August 6, 2013 Share #845 Posted August 6, 2013 it's with the same company....right?? is this common to go from ship to ship? Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #846 Posted August 6, 2013 Eh, yeah... Same company... It's usually not supposed to be like that for those of us with permanent seniority and an assigned ship... And the reason why my gear is in Montreal.... If there was any kind of "normal" I would be going back to my assigned ship when she is expected to fit out (in a couple weeks)... But now I have to haul my backside over to... Well ... You all have the story already..... Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted August 6, 2013 Share #847 Posted August 6, 2013 Bummer. Just bummer. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted August 6, 2013 Share #848 Posted August 6, 2013 Hi Andy, I seem to have missed your last couple of rigging photos a few pages back, she looks very impressive. I also like to rig in stages from the deck up starting with the lower masts, so much easier to make a decent job of seizing the shrouds. I make the shroud pairs up off the model on a dummy masthead and then transfer them. Cheers, B.E. Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 6, 2013 Share #849 Posted August 6, 2013 the wabbits are being groomed as i speak (well not actually) to wave goodbye to you trippwj 1 Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted August 6, 2013 Share #850 Posted August 6, 2013 ...and I just caught up, sheesh.... Safe trip Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted August 6, 2013 Share #851 Posted August 6, 2013 safe travels Andy.........let the next chapter in 'the adventures' begin! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted August 6, 2013 Share #852 Posted August 6, 2013 Bummer Andy! Have a safe trip - Peggy will be waiting patiently when you return. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #853 Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks everybody, for you well wishes. I'll try and have an update before the end of the day (I do like to go away leaving no one in doubt as to my Peg's status... ). Andy popeye the sailor 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 6, 2013 Share #854 Posted August 6, 2013 Be safe Andy and have a good trip, even if it is for a 4 letter word. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #855 Posted August 6, 2013 First off... the ship will be delayed... so I have a 24 hour stay of execution.... And now for my update.... Finished the main lower shrouds. all that's left is to cinch up the lanyards and make them fast. Managed the main stay as well. Odd little bit that main stay collar. Made it to the lenght specified in TFFM IV but it seems a tad long. Well... I'm not going to worry about it too much. It's in...and I'm not changing it. Another odd thing about TFFM IV... how the top ends of the shrouds are to pass around the masts.... I read the text and it describes doing it in the way I have done.... yet looking at the photos in the book.... it's backwards from that.... So anyway... I know what I have to do in the future.. I do expect to be back home in September, good modelling weather... so I'm looking forward to getting the lower mast rigging done and banging away at some ratlines... (yeah... I'm crazy.. but I do like rigging....my own ships.... ) Andy popeye the sailor, Barbossa, dafi and 9 others 12 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted August 6, 2013 Share #856 Posted August 6, 2013 Just catching up, Andy. She's coming along nicely! John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted August 6, 2013 Share #857 Posted August 6, 2013 those phots look great Andy Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 HMHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished St-Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted August 6, 2013 Share #858 Posted August 6, 2013 (edited) Hi Andy,Looks really nice and great as you know, you too...Just curiosity... Why do you prefer to build top masts after fixing the lowers into the deck? Is this more easier or is there another reason? Edited August 7, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted August 6, 2013 Share #859 Posted August 6, 2013 great work on the shrouds........she's looking beautiful! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share #860 Posted August 6, 2013 Thanks guys Ferit, it is easier to do the masts like I am.... And safer too. Easier to set up the shrouds, I can seize them together on the bench as opposed to in place; I can also slip a pair over them mast without having to run them through a small gap. Safer in that I have less small fragile bits aloft to get snagged on as I work around the lower rigging. From another perspective, it's a little less daunting because you only see the short term goals directly in front of you, you can see each phase as you need to see it. A bit like trying to eat a whole party sized pizza by yourself in one sitting, rather than putting some away for later. You'll get there just the same... Andy riverboat 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted August 7, 2013 Share #861 Posted August 7, 2013 Looks good, Andy. As a side observation, building the masts this way is similar to the method used on 1:1 version. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted August 7, 2013 Share #862 Posted August 7, 2013 Looks great Andy. Very nice seizings. I look forward to being where you are but I'll enjoy the journey. Cheers Alistair Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted August 7, 2013 Share #863 Posted August 7, 2013 Hi Andy great build so far, I like the comments you give as to better Access when rigging the lower shrouds,etc, pls. do`nt hesitate to further comment your thoughts as you go along, I`ll Keep tuned with great interest Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 7, 2013 Share #864 Posted August 7, 2013 Hi Andy, 24 hours of more fun You know, ask your boss for a sea trip in the direction of Holland, and when you are here , you can teach me those seizings…. They are looking real great ! Enjoy your extra day free and a good trip when you have to go. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share #865 Posted August 7, 2013 To be honest Sjors, there's no trick to my seizings... They're all just a bit of knot trickery. I start with a clove hitch turned inwards, then add a turned in half hitch below and another above. Finally tie the ends together with another hitch, secure with glue and trim. All the knots are on the inside and virtually invisible to anyone looking (as you've so nicely proven). Easy to do and neat and effective. Andy Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 7, 2013 Share #866 Posted August 7, 2013 Impressive rope work Andy, some great seizing and serving, very well done mate. Have as good a trip as you can mate and be safe, were waiting for return already. mobbsie realworkingsailor 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted August 7, 2013 Share #867 Posted August 7, 2013 Wonderful work, Andy I'm also more inclined to tackle the shrouds "stage by stage" instead of assembling the masts at first. As I'm a bit anxious that you might tight the ropes as such that the mast might bend in an unappropriate direction. I am aware that many other members have a different opinion about this matter, but I think this approach ables you to "compensate" if necessary. realworkingsailor 1 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realworkingsailor Posted August 7, 2013 Author Share #868 Posted August 7, 2013 If you notice, in the photos, all my lanyards are still hanging long. This is so I can carefully adjust everything at the same time. Get all the tensions equal between the shrouds and stays. The only tricky one sofar has been the mizzen mast, it's a bit thinner and more flexible, the main seems to be more of a tree stump. Takes a lot (excessive) of force to make that one bend. Andy riverboat 1 Quote Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati Current Build: USF Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted August 7, 2013 Share #869 Posted August 7, 2013 Andy it makes a lot of sense working in the stages that you are doing, those shrouds look great. Michael popeye the sailor and realworkingsailor 2 Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted August 7, 2013 Share #870 Posted August 7, 2013 I think that at this forum, we have a few teachers... Can we not open an modelling school? Andy for the seizing…... Augie for the rigging and training the spiders…... Danny for the cannons……. Mark for the drinks …... Mobbsie for the speed…... I'll be the first student ! Where can I sign in……. realworkingsailor, popeye the sailor and trippwj 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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