HMS Hood by Old Collingwood - Flyhawk - 1/700 - PLASTIC - After her explosion.

[Kevin-the-lubber]

5 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Wonder if anyone can 3D print these railings  to match the PE ones?

If you post a sketch and it looks feasible I’ll have a go and, if successful post them to you. I know from working on the 1/100 Victory that I can print bars at 0.3mm but I’ve concluded that this is just about my lower limit. Any smaller than that and the chances of a successful print, let alone being able to remove the supports, become too small.

 

Maybe ask Flyhawk for some spares? You’re doing such a fine job of this model that you’re selling 1/700 to us and, if I was the manufacturer, I’d give you all the spares in the world!

[mikegr]

6 hours ago, Old Collingwood said:

Wonder if anyone can 3D print these railings  to match the PE ones?

 

OC.

I have seen printed 3d parts including rails. The detail was amazing

[Canute]

OC, I think Gator Grip glue is available, but you need to email Kenny to get it.

 

I'll second Alan's recommendation for using it. I apply the regular (thicker) with a paint brush. I keep a cup of water handy to clean the brush. And I let it tack up for a minute or so. Parts seem to stick well.

[Old Collingwood]

10 hours ago, Kevin-the-lubber said:

If you post a sketch and it looks feasible I’ll have a go and, if successful post them to you. I know from working on the 1/100 Victory that I can print bars at 0.3mm but I’ve concluded that this is just about my lower limit. Any smaller than that and the chances of a successful print, let alone being able to remove the supports, become too small.

 

Maybe ask Flyhawk for some spares? You’re doing such a fine job of this model that you’re selling 1/700 to us and, if I was the manufacturer, I’d give you all the spares in the world!

Thank you sincerly  for that offer   - I have managed to get a pic of  part of the PE sheets  showing  the  rails that are broken  on my   sheet,   to give an idea of the  size of the rails   the sheet length from end to end is  13.5cm    hope you can work out the rest from that.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

1 hour ago, Canute said:

OC, I think Gator Grip glue is available, but you need to email Kenny to get it.

 

I'll second Alan's recommendation for using it. I apply the regular (thicker) with a paint brush. I keep a cup of water handy to clean the brush. And I let it tack up for a minute or so. Parts seem to stick well.

Ken I have brought some special Acrylic glue from Mig Ammo   designed to do just that, I posted a link to it futher up  the page, just need to wait for it to arrive  in the new year.

 

OC.

[Kevin-the-lubber]

1 hour ago, Old Collingwood said:

13.5cm

Once scaled, the bars come out as 0.1mm - 0.15mm wide, presumably the same for thickness and the gaps between bars appear the same.. I'm afraid that's just too small. Any gap less than 0.3mm tends to become bridged by the resin which is what I expect to happen here. If it wasn't for the risk of damaging the FEP (or worse, the screen!) I'd give it a whirl but the chances of success are so small I'd best pass. Sorry! I guess this is why they're PE. 

[Old Collingwood]

53 minutes ago, Kevin-the-lubber said:

Once scaled, the bars come out as 0.1mm - 0.15mm wide, presumably the same for thickness and the gaps between bars appear the same.. I'm afraid that's just too small. Any gap less than 0.3mm tends to become bridged by the resin which is what I expect to happen here. If it wasn't for the risk of damaging the FEP (or worse, the screen!) I'd give it a whirl but the chances of success are so small I'd best pass. Sorry! I guess this is why they're PE. 

Thank you for offering  to give it a go   -  I thought it would be a  close call thing as the PE pieces at 1/700  are so small.

 

OC.

[Landlubber Mike]

You should be able to buy generic rails from a variety of manufacturers to replace the ones from your kit.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Flyhawk offers them.

 

[Old Collingwood]

13 minutes ago, Landlubber Mike said:

You should be able to buy generic rails from a variety of manufacturers to replace the ones from your kit.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Flyhawk offers them.

 

Thanks mike, there is a secondary  PE Sheet  that also has the main deck railings  and some other lengths  - I need to sit down and properly  review where they are all designed to go  or if any are spares.

 

OC.

[king derelict]

Hi OC, Flyhawk and White Ensign have frets of railings in various styles. Counsel have "easy glue" generic railings as well as specific WW2 RN railings. I have used both successfully although cutting a strip out of a great full of railings is likely to make your eyes cross. 

good luck

Alan

[Old Collingwood]

36 minutes ago, king derelict said:

Hi OC, Flyhawk and White Ensign have frets of railings in various styles. Counsel have "easy glue" generic railings as well as specific WW2 RN railings. I have used both successfully although cutting a strip out of a great full of railings is likely to make your eyes cross. 

good luck

Alan

Thank You Alan, deffo eye crossing  situation with all this  1/700 detail.

 

OC.

[king derelict]

11 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

Thank You Alan, deffo eye crossing  situation with all this  1/700 detail.

 

OC.

And now as I intended - darn autocorrect

 

Hi OC, Flyhawk and White Ensign have frets of railings in various style. Flyhawk have "easy glue" generic railings as well as specific WW2 RN railings. I have used both successfully although cutting a strip out of a fret full of railings is likely to make your eyes cross. 

good luck

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[CDW]

Just now, Landlubber Mike said:

You should be able to buy generic rails from a variety of manufacturers to replace the ones from your kit.  I wouldn’t be surprised if Flyhawk offers them.

 

He said in an earlier post he was giving up on the railings...too small. 

 

(I will be honest and say at this scale the railings are beyond me  and I do not have the full set now anyway  - so I am  going to build her  minus the railings.

 

OC.)

Edited December 31, 2021 by CDW

[Old Collingwood]

51 minutes ago, CDW said:

He said in an earlier post he was giving up on the railings...too small. 

 

(I will be honest and say at this scale the railings are beyond me  and I do not have the full set now anyway  - so I am  going to build her  minus the railings.

 

OC.)

Craig  just incase I came across  confusing  - in the kit there are Two large sheets of  PE  Sheet 1  contains the correct size  rails for the  Weather Deck  and  superstructure, apart from a  few peices I fitted earlier to the superstructer, this is the sheet  that I have managed ot damage the rails on, there is another sheet   - sheet2  this contains  the main deck forward and aft rail  aswel as a few others that I can not find  thier intended use as it does not list them on the PE  instructions.

 

I was seriously put off  with how  difficult and delicate these are, but after  finding a  better gluing option and ordering it,  its kind of given me a second wind - so I will  re check my other  PE sheet  to find out what is spare  to do the 12  (6 each side)  sections of railing  on the weather deck.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Just to add a pic of the mig ammo  PE  glue I have ordered  - 

 

OC.

[CDW]

Be sure to let us know how that glue works out for you.

[Old Collingwood]

7 minutes ago, CDW said:

Be sure to let us know how that glue works out for you.

I will indeed  -  it says in the description that it leave  no residue, can be applied using a brush  - the brushes can be cleaned using water  and its strong.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

good morning OC she look very nice, all your hard work is going to payoff in the long run, but 1/700 thats far to small for me to work on

[Old Collingwood]

9 hours ago, Kevin said:

good morning OC she look very nice, all your hard work is going to payoff in the long run, but 1/700 thats far to small for me to work on

Thank you kindly Kevin,   yep its a challenge  working at that  scale  - you kind of need to  step into a minature world  at high magnification and close working.

 

Happy New year to you and yours mate.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

happy new year to you to, look out for a new build log tomorrow

[Old Collingwood]

Evening all, hope everyones holidays are going well,   I had to  pull my fingure out  and clear the table  ready for my spraying booth,   first  was to lay some primer down on all the  sub assemblies,   these were attached to blue tack  lids on my bottles and  tap on the end of lolly sticks,  I then got everything set up and put a coat down,  after drying with the dryer, I mixed up  my AP507A and put down a few light coats.

These parts are put a side  waiting to fully dry before they get some detail painting  like the corticene  on a couple of  sub assembly decks.

 

OC.

[mikegr]

too many modelers use bottles to stick their parts for painting . Maybe i should follow .

[Old Collingwood]

8 hours ago, mikegr said:

too many modelers use bottles to stick their parts for painting . Maybe i should follow .

Yep  put a bit of Blue Tack  on top  make it flat and push the item on it (gently)  make an easy handling tool.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Evening all,   somemore progress  this evening  -  I have glued the sub assemblies down onto the deck,   the main conning tower was a bit of a tight fit  and needs a bit of a touch up  where a few bits of paint was scrubbed  away.

Oh  I painted one of the decks  in corticene.

Still some more detail painting to do 

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Evening all,   A bit more done this evening  -  I painted the wood sections of the boats and floats  then  added a few washes to  shade them and bring out the wood,  then I did a  few details washes  including  some of the vents and port holes.

 

OC.

[king derelict]

The boats look really good. Great job

Alan

[Old Collingwood]

9 minutes ago, king derelict said:

The boats look really good. Great job

Alan

Thank you kindly Alan,  I  brushed in some sand colour first  then added a few coats of my dark Brown wash  to bring out the planks.

 

OC.

[Spooky spoon]

It's looking great so far.

[Old Collingwood]

6 hours ago, Spooky spoon said:

It's looking great so far.

Thank you kindly.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Evening all,   more little work in tiny land  - this time with Three motor cruisers  - they were put togther  (canopy added to hull)  then painted and  washed and glued in place.

 

OC.