ccoyle Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #31 Posted January 22, 2023 Update: All modeling work at Casa de Coyle has temporarily been grounded, as we have new addition to the family. Keeva is a ten-week-old Cavapoo, and despite her innocuous look in this photo, she is much like any other puppy at this 'terrible twos' stage -- she needs lots of training and socializing. It will be quite awhile before she can be crated long enough to get some modeling time in, and longer before she will be trusted enough to have free rein in the house. So, for now, models are in a wait-and-see holding pattern. Cheers! Altduck, Knocklouder, Sergey Karelia and 17 others 17 1 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 22, 2023 Share #32 Posted January 22, 2023 Gawd she's a precious little soul, what a beauty. i think she's model ready right now! mtaylor, Knocklouder, Dave_E and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_Grant Posted January 22, 2023 Share #33 Posted January 22, 2023 So cute! Looks like she didn't get the curly poodle fur; my wife loves Cavaliers but so far we've always had retrievers 😵. Which keep you going........we're older now so maybe a cavalier will be next.......hadn't heard of cavapoos but will ask my wife about them (she's a vet). Dave_E, mtaylor, ccoyle and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #34 Posted January 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, Keith Black said: Gawd she's a precious little soul, what a beauty. Okay, Keith, you get a bonus photo for that comment. 😉 yvesvidal, Keith Black, VTHokiEE and 10 others 12 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 22, 2023 Share #35 Posted January 22, 2023 Awwwww. AJohnson, Dave_E and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted January 22, 2023 Share #36 Posted January 22, 2023 Hahaha! We have had Cavaliers for years, you are in for FUN! 🤣🤣👍👍 So just to check you got a spaniel cross - in the (many I hope) years you have her you will never fathom what is going on between those cute little ears (personally I think not a lot!) 🤪 🐶 Ian_Grant, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 1 3 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed (Ship):- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes (Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Completed (Non-Ship):-Blackburn Buccaneer S.2C - Airfix (1/48), Bristol Beaufort - Airfix (1/72), Mosquito B.XVI - Airfix (1/72), , Sea-Harrier-FRS1 - Airfix (1/72), Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Airfix (1/24), De Havilland Chipmunk T.10 - Airfix (1/48), Flamborough Head Lighthouse - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 22, 2023 Author Share #37 Posted January 22, 2023 39 minutes ago, AJohnson said: Hahaha! We have had Cavaliers for years, you are in for FUN! 🤣🤣👍👍 So just to check you got a spaniel cross - in the (many I hope) years you have her you will never fathom what is going on between those cute little ears (personally I think not a lot!) 🤪 🐶 We have had dogs for years (I'm allergic to cats). We raised nine guide dog puppies. Most of our own have been mixed breeds of one sort or another, but our Old Man at the moment is a 15-year-old Cavalier. He is very dominant (I call him the 'anti-Cavalier') and is not completely thrilled about the new addition 😅. Our youngest daughter has a super-sweet-tempered Cavalier as well. Dave_E, mtaylor, AJohnson and 1 other 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted January 22, 2023 Share #38 Posted January 22, 2023 Cute dog Chris! My sister-in-law has one. Let's hope yours doesn't pee and poop in the house at age 2 like hers still does 😬 ccoyle, Knocklouder, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 24, 2023 Share #39 Posted January 24, 2023 That little cutie has a look that says "you're going to holding me more than you think, but I'll keep your face wet". ccoyle, Dave_E and Keith Black 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #40 Posted February 3, 2023 I haven't got back to working on Hannah yet, but I thought I'd post some pics of what I'm trying to wrap my brain around regarding the construction of the frames. As I said earlier, the available YouTube videos do not give any hints on what to do here, and neither do the instructions. So, this is frame #5. As you can see, there is not a whole lot of overlap between the forward futtocks and aft futtocks. Frame seen from forward: Frame seen from aft: Frame seen from above: The question again is one of how much interior wood to remove, if any. It's possible that I may have to remove the deck beams to do this properly -- again, there was no advice about this in the instructions (BTW, only a couple of frames have deck beams glued to both sides). I suppose one option (and the easiest) would be to just not remove any interior wood; after all, this is a stylized POF model. Thanks for any and all suggestions on what to do at this point. Having never built a POF model before, I have zero experience with this type of construction and precious few print resources to guide me. Cheers! P.S. Looking down the road, there is also precious little guidance in the instructions and videos on how to keep the keel and frames aligned when it comes time to glue them together. I suspect I may need to make a cheap building board for that sequence, but that's a ways off yet. Ryland Craze, KurtH, bruce d and 6 others 9 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted February 3, 2023 Share #41 Posted February 3, 2023 Chris, the images got lost in translation. Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #42 Posted February 3, 2023 30 minutes ago, Keith Black said: Chris, the images got lost in translation. Faugh!! Still trying to figure out all the quirks of Google Photos. I'll update. Keith Black, mtaylor and Dave_E 2 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted February 3, 2023 Share #43 Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, ccoyle said: The question again is one of how much interior wood to remove, if any. Disclaimer: I have no idea. That being said, are you trying to determine what to sand off before fairing? Seems like the safe bet would be to leave more on than not and fair it after you raised all the frames on the keel? Keith Black, mtaylor and Dave_E 3 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 3, 2023 Author Share #44 Posted February 3, 2023 1 hour ago, VTHokiEE said: That being said, are you trying to determine what to sand off before fairing? Seems like the safe bet would be to leave more on than not and fair it after you raised all the frames on the keel? The small size of the model and its unusual manner of construction will make such removal difficult, if not impossible. That's part of the dilemma. Mind you, this is interior fairing I'm wondering about. One of the reasons I asked whether just leaving it as-is would be a viable option is that there isn't an 'interior' to this model -- other than the interior sides of the frames, there isn't much of anything else. Like I said, it's stylized, so I'm inclined to believe that leaving the insides un-faired would be a forgivable sin. Keith Black, mtaylor, bruce d and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTHokiEE Posted February 3, 2023 Share #45 Posted February 3, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, ccoyle said: The small size of the model and its unusual manner of construction will make such removal difficult, if not impossible. Ahh understood - I think it’s fully up to you. Looking at pictures of the finished models with the deck beams I think you could easily get away with it. For my taste I would probably try to smooth the frames some - but I imagine you could get away without doing it. Edited February 4, 2023 by VTHokiEE Ryland Craze, Keith Black, Dave_E and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share #46 Posted February 6, 2023 Upon further scrutiny of Mr. Okumoto's videos, I found a scene where he does appear to have removed some interior wood before mating the frames and keel together. And here as well . . . VTHokiEE, Keith Black, bruce d and 10 others 13 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardensb Posted July 3, 2023 Share #47 Posted July 3, 2023 I'm returning from about a seven year break and just picked up the box of Harold Hahn's "Hannah" based on his plans sold through The Lumberyard with a wood material kit for plank on frame. Apparently I stopped while planking the inner bulwarks but also had not planked the stern. I cannot find any pictures or diagrams of how the stern should look. Did your kit include anything? I think I have all my blueprints displayed again but no stern view.... I started to make a punch list to re-orient myself to the model. -Plank transom and stern -Figure out how to get the keel to fit past the inner planks. then fabricate rudder attaching strips/hinges (I cannot remember the term) -Steam and finish inner bulwark planking then clean up gun ports. -Clean up glue residue below planking where I am going to leave lower framing exposed. -Sort and ID remaining strip wood from the box - it appears that I have some that does not go with my build... pine planking??? -Figure out the deck furniture builds before planking deck to know what will be exposed or not. How many cannons to build if partially decked? Dave_E, Keith Black and mtaylor 3 Quote Shawn Carden Fredericksburg, VA Completed ships: MS kit of Armed Virginian Sloop of 1768 (2005) Two Admiralty style Lexingtons based upon Clay Feldman's SIS Articles (2006-2011) MS Kit Prince de Neufchatel (2006-2012) LSS's Fair American (2013) Harold Hahn's Hannah scratchbuilt, no instructions (2016 - ??) In Progress: Just restarted after a 7 year break Future planned: Washington 1776 Galley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted July 3, 2023 Author Share #48 Posted July 3, 2023 54 minutes ago, cardensb said: Did your kit include anything? This kit's framing is pretty rudimentary, and I'm skeptical that its stern framing would correspond very well with Mr. Hahn's plans. Ryland Craze, Dave_E, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted July 4, 2023 Share #49 Posted July 4, 2023 Hahn’s book “The Colonial Schooner” has a complete discussion about how he built his model of the Hannah. Keith Black, Dave_E, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardensb Posted July 4, 2023 Share #50 Posted July 4, 2023 17 hours ago, GrandpaPhil said: Hahn’s book “The Colonial Schooner” has a complete discussion about how he built his model of the Hannah. Appreciate the tip, I found the book on Amazon and ordered it. Pretty good progress over the weekend. I finished the inner bulwarks (bloodwood is a pain to work with, I had forgot how fragile it is even after a good steaming). I installed apple wood rail caps (opportunity to remember how to use and maintain by scroll saw). Cleaned up the gun ports so they are all the same size. cleaned up the exposed framing below the few rows of planking I had installed years ago. Began planking the quarterdeck above the cap line. Started shopping for pre-cut grating for the 5 hatches and 10 swivel guns. Now if I can just find where my wife hid my digital calipers so i can get some accurate measurements. mtaylor, Dave_E, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Shawn Carden Fredericksburg, VA Completed ships: MS kit of Armed Virginian Sloop of 1768 (2005) Two Admiralty style Lexingtons based upon Clay Feldman's SIS Articles (2006-2011) MS Kit Prince de Neufchatel (2006-2012) LSS's Fair American (2013) Harold Hahn's Hannah scratchbuilt, no instructions (2016 - ??) In Progress: Just restarted after a 7 year break Future planned: Washington 1776 Galley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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