popeye the sailor Posted January 2, 2014 Share #721 Posted January 2, 2014 happy New Year's my friend! the paint work came off great!......nice looking plank work....great looking hull! augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 2, 2014 Share #722 Posted January 2, 2014 Nice work Augie. Precise as always. - Bug augie 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted January 2, 2014 Share #723 Posted January 2, 2014 So far so great Augie! For me the planking is definitely NOT the easy part but you're handling it beautifully! hamilton augie 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 3, 2014 Share #724 Posted January 3, 2014 She's coming along beautifully Augie. I'm glad that my painting tip was helpful. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted January 4, 2014 Share #725 Posted January 4, 2014 Hey Augie, Those wale lines have a real nice flow to them. That's a long hull, those lines either make or break the beauty of this ship . Wonderful work, I'm taking notes :) Bill augie 1 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted January 4, 2014 Share #726 Posted January 4, 2014 Greetings Augie, may I ask what, if any, power tools you have used on this project? Thanks, Harley Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Yorktown CV-5 1/200 by Trumpeter Completed: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 US Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started, On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share #727 Posted January 4, 2014 The only power tools I have are an old Dremel and a pencil sander. Never really got into that aspect and at my age I'd be dead before I ever learned how to use them properly. My wife of over 40 years is convinced 'there is something wrong with you' lb0190, mtaylor, Tigerdvr and 5 others 8 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerdvr Posted January 4, 2014 Share #728 Posted January 4, 2014 Thanks, I'm in the same boat so to speak, coming up on 41 years on a marriage to my best friend and she wants to buy me something for the shipyard. Maybe I'll just get some upgraded lumber. augie and texxn5 2 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Yorktown CV-5 1/200 by Trumpeter Completed: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 US Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started, On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 4, 2014 Share #729 Posted January 4, 2014 Augie - I can't even count the number of times my lovely wife has come out to my little shop, looked at me in my jeweler's specks pin filing something 6mm long and used the exact phrase "There's something wrong with you." LoL -Bug mtaylor, texxn5 and augie 3 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share #730 Posted January 4, 2014 Glad to hear there are still some 'old-schoolers' out there. Nothing wrong with good power tools though --- especially if you're making a jump into scratch building. Upgrading your timber is a good investment Harley. It's a little expensive and hence, in the long run those tools pay for themselves. As they say.....whatever floats your boat! texxn5 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 5, 2014 Share #731 Posted January 5, 2014 Yikes! And yes, for a landlocked state CO is well represented. I'm a return visitor from before the MSW 1.0 crash and a 20 year Air Force guy trying to blend with sea fairing folk . ;-) Sorry we hijacked your thread Augie! -Bug texxn5 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share #732 Posted January 7, 2014 Time for a small update. The treenailing of the upper hull is completed. I used the 'drill and fill' method using a #74 bit and wood filler that I dyed with acrylic paint to the color I liked. It's not as aggressive a pattern as specified on the plans but it suits me. Once that was done, another coat of diluted Minwax Golden Oak stain was applied and everything given 2 coats of WOP followed by an application of brush on Testor's Flat Acrylic. Now it's time to finish the painting on the upper hull. Everything from approx. 2 strakes above the gun ports up to the rail will be black. Wish I had a scale roller . Probably take about 8 coats. Be back soon. egkb, Anja, lambsbk and 16 others 19 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted January 7, 2014 Share #733 Posted January 7, 2014 That looks great Augie, And a lot of work....... But the results are great ! augie 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trippwj Posted January 7, 2014 Share #734 Posted January 7, 2014 Fantabulous work, Augie. Looks nice! augie 1 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted January 7, 2014 Share #735 Posted January 7, 2014 Beautiful work on the nailing Augie, looks top notch!..... I'm with you on the power tools. I've bought a couple which I never use, and probably will never use. I'll end up selling them someday, although, recently I did buy the Proxxon DB250 wood lathe that I'm sure I'll put to some use, other than that I'm pretty much old school, hand tools, sometimes I get carried away with this hobby :P ( at my age I really should know better) Frank Sjors, trippwj and Tigerdvr 3 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 7, 2014 Share #736 Posted January 7, 2014 nice work on the nailing Augie. How do you do that without staining the underlying finish? my attempts on scraps produces a vriation of permanent stains. augie 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted January 7, 2014 Share #737 Posted January 7, 2014 Hi Augie, Very nice pattern. It’s not too busy and trying do all of those treenails can lead to pattern errors. Not that I would know about that nope no way. Oh and about downward facing bumkins you mentioned in B.E.’s Pegasus log, in case you didn’t know you will be making them too. augie 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted January 7, 2014 Share #738 Posted January 7, 2014 Looking really great Augie. Wales and the treenails came out very nice indeed augie 1 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted January 7, 2014 Share #739 Posted January 7, 2014 Very nicely done Augie - looking really sharp. augie 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafine Posted January 7, 2014 Share #740 Posted January 7, 2014 Really nice looking treenailing, Augie. Bob augie 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share #741 Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks all! FRANK - you're not THAT old! Bob- Not as neat as yours but I'm getting there Rusty - Thanks for the good news! But then I'm pretty handy at making supposedly straight things curved (not to mention my patented 87 degree right angle) John - That planking was stained, then drilled/filled and then re-stained. Does that clarify???? Rustyj and gjdale 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir3 Posted January 8, 2014 Share #742 Posted January 8, 2014 Hi Augie, Awesome as usual. Iran augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted January 8, 2014 Share #743 Posted January 8, 2014 nice work on the tree nailing Augie......it really dresses her up ! hull's looking better and better with every time you caress her! augie 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted January 8, 2014 Share #744 Posted January 8, 2014 Have to agree with everyone.....looking great. I think you may have some patent infringements on your hands - I may have used that very 87 degree right angle myself. Then there's the 93 degree right angle augie 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 8, 2014 Share #745 Posted January 8, 2014 Thanks Augie, that's a good common sense answer. I've discovered that also with glue stains. They don't show up until the stain goes on....then the stain doesn't penetrate....gotta try to sand it or live with it .....depends on where it is I guess. Thanks. Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 8, 2014 Share #746 Posted January 8, 2014 Hm.... can't believe I've never stained first then drilled and re-stained. That would sure cut down on the amount of "missed glue discoloration" of which John speaks! - Bug texxn5 1 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share #747 Posted January 8, 2014 The only problem with it is that, with basswood, the drilling is not so clean as with a harder wood. Even though I smoothed out the drilled holes (gently) with an awl, the second staining gets into the edges of the drilled circle and gives a slightly diffused appearance. I can live with that as the overall appearance and texture look pretty good from a normal viewpoint. If you'd like to see the difference, check out Bob's (Rafine) treenailing on his Essex. Absolutely 'clean'. texxn5 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbug Posted January 8, 2014 Share #748 Posted January 8, 2014 Yes Augie, I run into similar problems when I try to shape the basswood in any way. And Bob's Essex is definitely one of the builds I currently follow (and drool over). :-) - Bug texxn5 and augie 2 Quote - Bug Current Build: HMS Pegasus - Vanguard Models Completed Builds - Augie's USF Confederacy AL Santa Maria - Heavily Bashed AL San Juan Nepomuceno AL Swift Pilot Boat Cris Craft AL Stagecoach Ship Blog - The Lehman Shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shazmira Posted January 8, 2014 Share #749 Posted January 8, 2014 Very excellent work Augie, I am not looking forward to the treenailing part myself, I find it the most tedious process of all the building. augie 1 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted January 8, 2014 Share #750 Posted January 8, 2014 I think basswood is good if you're going to paint it or cover it up with copper, past that to me it is just really too soft to hold a lot of detail, even though I didn't spend the $'s to change it out on mine. I should have, but ....... augie 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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