Javlin Posted September 21 #1 Posted September 21 This is my second entry for the GB and being a little bit more to do thought I go trough the build History:Tempest Mk.6 NX135/V No.6 squadron RAF,Deversoir,Egypt,1949.The machine was also seen and photographed at Nicosia base,Cyprus.It is one of only a handful of Tempest to carry a bare metal finish(NMF).One of the pilots who are reported to have flown this machine was F/L Spragg, who on the 7th January 1949 took part in the aerial engagement between Tempest and Spitfires of the RAF and Spitfires of the fledgling IAF.On this day Spragg sat in another Tempest and slightly damaged Ezer Weizmann's Spitfire with his guns. Jack12477, Canute, davec and 8 others 11 Quote
Lt. Biggles Posted September 24 #2 Posted September 24 I’ve always liked the look of the Tempest! looks like an interesting build Jack12477, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Dave_E Posted September 24 #3 Posted September 24 I’m in! 🍿🥤👍😀 Canute, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 2 others 4 1 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
Javlin Posted September 25 Author #4 Posted September 25 20 hours ago, Lt. Biggles said: I’ve always liked the look of the Tempest! looks like an interesting build 10 hours ago, Dave_E said: I’m in! 🍿🥤👍😀 Thanks for the interest fellas I have the Quintas 3D copit for this one the sides are already done just need to build the seat,peddles area and wha la Lt. Biggles, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote
Javlin Posted September 27 Author #5 Posted September 27 The copit is finished it's such a thinker to get it together and all those pins aligned right but happened with some persuasion.The seat came out really Nice meaning paint wise II was able to paint the brass rings for the threads up top very very well and painted the leather sting in yellow chromate it worked.I may try to get a better level shot if the camera will let me.I am not far from closing of the fuselage and off to the wings the fit of the Mk VI seems better than the last Tempest the Mk V mtaylor, king derelict, Lt. Biggles and 11 others 13 1 Quote
king derelict Posted September 28 #6 Posted September 28 Lovely work on the cockpit Jav alan Javlin, CDW, Old Collingwood and 5 others 7 1 Quote
Javlin Posted September 28 Author #7 Posted September 28 (edited) 12 minutes ago, king derelict said: Lovely work on the cockpit Jav alan Alan I invested in a set of brushes for small details that I am starting to use more and more of from nail artist https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CY9MKXDS/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A1H1ZRYKB0Q97Y&psc=1 Edited September 28 by Javlin king derelict, Canute, Egilman and 6 others 9 Quote
Landlubber Mike Posted September 28 #8 Posted September 28 Kevin, thanks for the recommendation - i picked up a set of them as they look very nice. I usually go through brushes pretty quickly - ruin the tips, etc. The one set that have survived for me and still look like new are the ones from Tamiya. Really good quality. https://www.amazon.com/Tamiya-America-Modeling-Pointed-TAM87173/dp/B00VTDYJ18/ref=sr_1_7?crid=20VRJ6Q39DX7M&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xIiDJLV12Fx-YJI8Hf_2owKj3NE70REfDpSh5dUSIgB233rkYZjNkSWVw4FXg0g0P72NEm0yxQF9HKs2kKM0Dr5_xaZvcZRiCEH5HKjgudvca2zuBkrCl1bgh1ElyE5fMYVCvvORQr-3df7eBU-buvQiuueDnS4AlGMYOT3E6-NGF-rHD7X9L3kwy9--9J3WvAa_Sh0vYVHgRuRgzKerB67cqNIdcyEEGAIYgcSjFlZ6lsuKpKlaTisCthzg8xLBEIa7sCPEfDTIPwbldWzCB6yFzfPi-TwIY1dvxbZSnNM.gCPPrhjKrCx7G-KylfBDYkruSI-9wpO2PnWkCzOtTfs&dib_tag=se&keywords=tamiya+paint+brushes&qid=1727540985&sprefix=tamiya+paint+br%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-7 CDW, Dave_E, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
king derelict Posted September 28 #9 Posted September 28 4 hours ago, Javlin said: Alan I invested in a set of brushes for small details that I am starting to use more and more of from nail artist https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CY9MKXDS/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1?smid=A1H1ZRYKB0Q97Y&psc=1 Those nail brush sets are great value and seem to stand up well to use. I bought a couple of sets including one that look like yours and I like them a lot. They have been great for the faces and details on the white metal miniatures. alan mtaylor, Egilman, ccoyle and 6 others 9 Quote
king derelict Posted September 28 #10 Posted September 28 (edited) 3 hours ago, Landlubber Mike said: Kevin, thanks for the recommendation - i picked up a set of them as they look very nice. I usually go through brushes pretty quickly - ruin the tips, etc. The one set that have survived for me and still look like new are the ones from Tamiya. Really good quality. https://www.amazon.com/Tamiya-America-Modeling-Pointed-TAM87173/dp/B00VTDYJ18/ref=sr_1_7?crid=20VRJ6Q39DX7M&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.xIiDJLV12Fx-YJI8Hf_2owKj3NE70REfDpSh5dUSIgB233rkYZjNkSWVw4FXg0g0P72NEm0yxQF9HKs2kKM0Dr5_xaZvcZRiCEH5HKjgudvca2zuBkrCl1bgh1ElyE5fMYVCvvORQr-3df7eBU-buvQiuueDnS4AlGMYOT3E6-NGF-rHD7X9L3kwy9--9J3WvAa_Sh0vYVHgRuRgzKerB67cqNIdcyEEGAIYgcSjFlZ6lsuKpKlaTisCthzg8xLBEIa7sCPEfDTIPwbldWzCB6yFzfPi-TwIY1dvxbZSnNM.gCPPrhjKrCx7G-KylfBDYkruSI-9wpO2PnWkCzOtTfs&dib_tag=se&keywords=tamiya+paint+brushes&qid=1727540985&sprefix=tamiya+paint+br%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-7 I tend to be a bit hard on brushes and mess up the tips. I bought this brush cleaner and it does clean well but it also does a good job of reshaping the brush tips. General Pencil General 105-BP Pencil Masters Brush Cleaner & Preserver, 1 Pack, Clear sorry for some reason I’m struggling to get the link to copy but it’s available on Amazon. alan Edited September 28 by king derelict Accidentally posted before finishing the post mtaylor, Egilman, Canute and 5 others 7 1 Quote
CDW Posted September 29 #11 Posted September 29 Great subject material, Jav. Your cockpit looks super! mtaylor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 4 others 6 1 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
Javlin Posted September 30 Author #12 Posted September 30 I pretty much got the wing built and ready for the first primer.The radiators on the wing for those with the kit and thinking of building disregard the kit's instructions.I built the R/wing radiator to the bottom as instructed leaving out R20 for late next attach the top cover and once good and dry insert R20.The same happens on the L/wing bottom,top and sand L20 to fit without issues.The kit instructions has you build it then attach as a unit both sides the wing to rad fit in my case was off could be operator error but what I just described fit.It looks like nothing but Valleyo Filler is all that will be needed around the wing root. AJohnson, yvesvidal, Jack12477 and 9 others 12 Quote
Canute Posted October 5 #13 Posted October 5 Fitting of the wings and tail need some filler. Special Hobby has some neat aircraft, but the fitting leaves a little to be desired. Old Collingwood, Jack12477, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
Javlin Posted October 13 Author #14 Posted October 13 On 10/5/2024 at 11:47 AM, Canute said: Fitting of the wings and tail need some filler. Special Hobby has some neat aircraft, but the fitting leaves a little to be desired. It did Ken just Vallejo squeeze and wipe that was it now the nose to the fuse was a different story. Egilman, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote
Javlin Posted October 13 Author #15 Posted October 13 I am getting close to some clear and decals fellas and have changed some of the paint.I have two pics a member of another forum let me look at of this particular AC in flight by the commander wish I could share them but very telling info.I got the impression member does something in the modeling area making/designing decals for a larger firm?Hence he studies pics a lot. 1) the spinner was not yellow it was the same color as the tail.Member was thinking sky for the backing plate,I was thinking yellow and the instructions said silver could very well be silver.This may of occurred because the commanders plane the grey spinner? 2) Member was not 100% convinced the AC was NM but I could see metal panels of different color were they just replacements? I depicted them for what I could see and know.The pics were of the L/side of the AC. 3)The grey down the bottom of the plane from wing root to tail was definitely there something not represented in the SH instructions. 4) The pics also showed some paint around the gun ports something again SH makes no mention I am thinking red but waiting on a response. 5) It's been mention that the leading edge of the wings may of been yellow waiting on response to that question also I can't see them. 6)The pic showed rocket racks empty she getting rockets 7)I think their was a good possibility #135 may of been NM it was reflective to a degree looked like an AC that was weathered/oxidized AL maybe.I had a pic of SN213 which was a known NM AC with the same grey spinner and piece around the forward canopy interesting both AC neither had exhaust stains while the two other pics of silver doped AC did? Jack12477, mtaylor, CDW and 8 others 11 Quote
shipman Posted October 13 #16 Posted October 13 That is a very convincing b/m aluminium finish, well done. mtaylor, AJohnson, Old Collingwood and 3 others 5 1 Quote
Javlin Posted October 13 Author #17 Posted October 13 8 hours ago, shipman said: That is a very convincing b/m aluminium finish, well done. Thank you Sir and I know your feelings in the past about painted metal finish and take this as a huge compliment Old Collingwood, Canute, shipman and 2 others 5 Quote
Egilman Posted October 13 #18 Posted October 13 (edited) Looks just like a plane that recently had it's camo paint stripped.... Yes, bare metal but in a different state, looks greyish in a cloudy pattern rather than the streaky whiteish oxidized bare metal of a never painted aircraft... Hints of reflection underneath... The greyish tone comes from the chemical they use to strip the paint.... VERY, VERY WELL DONE, not a style of BMF you usually see replicated in scale... Impressive... A perfect example of all the variations you can have in BMF... Edited October 13 by Egilman AJohnson, Canute, Javlin and 6 others 8 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Javlin Posted October 13 Author #19 Posted October 13 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Egilman said: The greyish tone comes from the chemical they use to strip the paint.... So you seen the pic in flight EG?Thanks for kind remarks. I had to spray the Glossy black from Alclad at 8/10" from the surface to obtain a satin effect with a fine tip so as not to lay to much paint.Here's a pic of the Dart I am playing with.... Edited October 13 by Javlin Jack12477, mtaylor, Egilman and 4 others 7 Quote
shipman Posted October 13 #20 Posted October 13 (edited) Javlin, it's spooky. Now is the cold season, when the comfort of access to the internet provides endless avenues of enquiry for the curious mind. Just before your last picture post I'd found an interesting series of photo albums online and had just looked through the sections relating to Typhoons, Tempests etc. You may find this link useful... https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/uk/raf/ EDIT Giving a link to a source allows folk to take a look-see without infringing copyright. Edited October 14 by shipman Added info mtaylor, Javlin, Canute and 2 others 4 1 Quote
Javlin Posted October 13 Author #21 Posted October 13 31 minutes ago, shipman said: Javlin, it's spooky. Now is the cold season, when the comfort of access to the internet provides endless avenues of enquiry for the curious mind. Just before your last picture post I'd found an interesting series of photo albums online and had just looked through the sections relating to Typhoons, Tempests etc. You may find this link useful... https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/uk/raf/ Me and You were looking at the same time Shipman.I was looking for the pic(s) I received private email and I always reserve those to maybe copyright in a way hence the reason I have not posted it.I was thinking by EG's post he found the pic on the internet then will I can post it just makes you wonder why Cartograf did not catch the changes?EG about posted exactly the way the plane looks some shine but not an odd grey is a good description. major decals going down as I type. Canute, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote
Javlin Posted October 13 Author #22 Posted October 13 The major decals are in place next are the couple handfuls of stencils.The only stencil needing Walthers was emblem on the chin scoop it made it conform.The Cartograf are settling down real Nice weras the rivets are coming through.The decals look to new for the aircraft but I think I have the solution to the problem. That pit sure looks Nice! yvesvidal, realworkingsailor, Old Collingwood and 9 others 11 1 Quote
Egilman Posted October 14 #23 Posted October 14 The hard thing is finding anything about British aircraft in anything but Grey or Brown and Green paint... they were an island nation and their aircraft were going to be around water, primarily salt water their entire operational life... EVERYTHING got painted... {chuckle} There is the USAF's test/examination article that for part of it's life was unpainted while in US employ, but as soon as it was returned to the RAF, it was painted... It would help to know what year and which nation/wing/squadron... Cause a bare search of Hawker Tempest shows nothing but the aforementioned Grey or Green and Brown camo... (or overall sky grey) You have a pic showing one in BMF I would certainly like to see it... Highly unusual... Canute, king derelict, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Old Collingwood Posted October 14 #24 Posted October 14 26 minutes ago, Egilman said: The hard thing is finding anything about British aircraft in anything but Grey or Brown and Green paint... they were an island nation and their aircraft were going to be around water, primarily salt water their entire operational life... EVERYTHING got painted... {chuckle} There is the USAF's test/examination article that for part of it's life was unpainted while in US employ, but as soon as it was returned to the RAF, it was painted... It would help to know what year and which nation/wing/squadron... Cause a bare search of Hawker Tempest shows nothing but the aforementioned Grey or Green and Brown camo... (or overall sky grey) You have a pic showing one in BMF I would certainly like to see it... Highly unusual... That is true that is brother - I remember my late farther telling me when he was serving on a base if he was not repairing or poilshing something - he was told to "Go Paint Something" OC. Egilman, mtaylor, Javlin and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Javlin Posted October 14 Author #25 Posted October 14 52 minutes ago, Egilman said: You have a pic showing one in BMF I would certainly like to see it... Highly unusual.. Inbound SN213 is a known NF the similarities...? that panel below the copit. Dave_E, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote
Jack12477 Posted October 14 #26 Posted October 14 59 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said: he was told to "Go Paint Something Old saying in US Military "if it's moving salute it; if it's standing still paint it" 😁😉 king derelict, Javlin, CDW and 5 others 1 7 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
Egilman Posted October 14 #27 Posted October 14 I know that postwar they had several squadrons go paintless... Some Photos... SN213 during the stripping in '46... (33 sqn. while stationed in Germany) NX131 a mkVI in '51... And NV699 a TT mk. V unk date... but definitely postwar... (I believe at Herndon in '51, and check out that pretty aluminized Mossie in the background) They decidedly show the effect of stripped paint, (which goes away with age and cleanings) BMF Tempests are not unknown but show me one in service during WWII.... Old Collingwood, Canute, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Danstream Posted October 15 #28 Posted October 15 The details and the finish are very good! I always liked the brutish and pugnacious look of the Tempest. I have also a metallic Tempest to be built in my stash. Just one comment, are we sure we are talking about natural metal finish and not a 'high speed silver' dope? I am mentioning that because this was the common finish of British planes after WWII when they were not camouflaged. Whatever the real finish was, yours looks great! Best regards, Dan Canute, Old Collingwood, AJohnson and 7 others 9 1 Quote Current build : Mayflower - AL 1:64, Lady Nelson - Amati Victory 1:64 Completed non-ship builds : Spitfire MK I - 1:48, Arado 196B - 1:32, Sea Fury - 1:48, F-15C Eagle - 1:48, Hawker Tempest Mk.V - 1:48, F104S Starfighter - 1:48 "The most effective way to do it, is to do it" - Amelia Earhart
Javlin Posted October 15 Author #29 Posted October 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Danstream said: Just one comment, are we sure we are talking about natural metal finish and not a 'high speed silver' dope? Dan the instructions refer to NX 135 as a bare metal finish and the rest of AC(instructions) as painted silver.The consensus is that the AC had to of been painted silver and that's a discussion over three forums so I digress.I still do not understand how a plane that is painted and things in the shade are brighter/shine than that in the sun? Edited October 15 by Javlin Old Collingwood, Egilman, Dave_E and 4 others 7 Quote
Javlin Posted October 15 Author #30 Posted October 15 (edited) Here's some other pics EG and this fella like you said dope was the order but the pics will...... I am starting to think this plane may of been painted but for reasons had a few replacement panels added even the wing root looks replaced. Edited October 15 by Javlin Jack12477, Egilman, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote
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