HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale

[Blue Ensign]

HMS Harpy 1796 by Blue Ensign – Vanguard Models 1:64 scale.

Since completing my Indy build my desire for ship modelling  has waned somewhat, partly I think because I have been struggling to find a subject to excite my interest.

That is until:

I looked at Chris’s forthcoming Harpy kit. Once again Mr W has piqued my interest as he did with Alert, Zulu, Fifie, Sphinx, and Indefatigable.

Harpy has all the elements that get my creative juices going;

Below deck detail, providing intriguing options to detail the cabin areas.

Fine lines and a hull length I can accommodate.

I am pleased to see at last a round-up to the Head ledges, something I have had to modify on all my builds.

I note also the Capstan step is included another authentic detail.

 

Apart from the schooner Pickle, I don’t have a two masted ship type in my collection, and a Brig sloop will fill that gap nicely.

I am also interested to try out Chris’s latest innovation in kit development, and as a bonus Mrs W has offered to buy it. (that's my Mrs W , not Chris's)

Not entirely altruistic on her part, I suspect; having me ensconced in my office, with my mind occupied, rather than prowling around the house getting under her feet, is a prime consideration.

I obtained the relevant plans from the NMM in advance of the kit release, but it’s never too early to start thinking about possible enhancements, and I do have the very clear photos provided by James in his excellent prototype build log.

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Plan ZAZ4491 = Lines and Profile.

Plan ZAZ4492 = internal detail, Upper and Lower deck plans.

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The deck plans include details of the cabin layouts and purposes which will be of great use for any modifications that may come to mind once I get into the project.

 

Looking forward to receiving this latest offering from Vanguard, but in the meantime I have been doing some of the preliminary research.

 

B.E.

02/12/2024

 

[DonSangria]

Looking forward to this.

 

You are a major inspiration to me and I'm sure to many others as well. So thank you for sharing your build with us!

[TJM]

I am looking forward to following this for sure!

[Jim Lad]

I've already got my seat pulled up ready for the start!

 

John

[Blue Ensign]

Cheers, Guys, 

I'm looking forward to getting started on Harpy, I don't think delivery is too far away.

 

B.E.

[gjdale]

Always educational and inspirational following your builds B.E. So I’ve pulled up a chair in the front row for this one too.

[JGoff]

Looking forward to your build!

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you Grant and Johnathon, 

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Cheers Chris, Harpy has arrived, and as luck would have it, tomorrow we are promised a severe storm, a perfect day to batten down the hatches and enjoy a day looking thro' this box of delights and savour the contents.

 

Looks like the build log is about to start.

 

B.E.

06/12/2024

[realworkingsailor]

Glad to see you back, BE!

Looking forward to watching your progress on another masterpiece!

 

Andy

[Knocklouder]

I am also very glad you are building another. I will follow along, but I am not going to be "Surprise" if you do another Vanguard Model  next year. I am lol.

Best of luck on your journey.   

Bob  M.

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you Andy and Bob,  I'm not thinking ahead of this build, but I doubt I will build another Frigate. Between Sphinx and Indy I think I have the type covered.🙂

 

B.E.

[davyboy]

Hi Maurice,I see you've started already,lots of fun ahead for you.

 

Dave 

[Blue Ensign]

HMS Harpy 1796 – Build Log

Post 1

The kit arrived nicely presented and packed as I have come to expect from Vanguard.

The plans are beautifully drawn with the usual high quality Build manual created by James.

 

The early stages proceed very quickly taking only a short time to effectively achieve a hull in frame, and all without glue, made possible by Chris’s excellent design innovations.

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The parts slot together with precision and at this stage of my modelling career I welcome not having to spend hours doing the basic assembly of the carcase element of a build which will  be ultimately hidden.

 

The bulkheads slot seamlessly into the False keel, but as this is quite long and only of 3mm mdf there is quite a bit of longitudinal flex, be careful it isn’t snapped at this early stage.

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After the behemoth of Indy it is nice to have a keel that fits conveniently into the keel clamp, and turns easily within the confines of my bench depth.

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Additional strength to the false keel is provided by the addition of pieces either side making the total thickness 7mm.

Longitudinal strips again fit perfectly to brace and square the bulkheads.

Not one spot of glue has been applied at this stage.

 

The next stage is to fit the lower deck and its limewood engraved patterns.

I am going to stop at this point as I wish to consider how I’m going to proceed with the lower deck.

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 I am not entirely convinced by the look of the Limewood deck and how it would react if I decided to darken it a little. Limewood is notorious for having a blotchy appearance if it isn’t sealed first.

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There are numerous scuttles shown along both sides of the deck which accord with the Adm plans but they are free of any board markings, and look a little ‘printed’ on, which of course they are.

If I decided to plank my own decks as I usually do those scuttles would certainly make things trickier.

 

It is early in the build but I need to work out how much of the lower deck I want, or is feasible to have on view, and what impact those scuttles will have on my eye. The Upper deck is only 20mm above the lower so they would hardly fade into the shadows.

 

B.E.

07/12/2024

 

[Blue Ensign]

Post 2

Lower deck considerations

I can now safely fit the forward mdf lower sub deck which is pegged into place, again without glue.

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The pegs can be seen located thro’ the bulkheads, again a perfect fit.

Altho’ in the prototype James glued the engraved surface deck before fitting, this is not essential and because I’m not clear how I’m going to proceed I opted not to.

The aft section of deck is slightly different in that the aftermost securing pegs fit over the engraved deck. If it is to be used it needs to be glued before the pegs are inserted.

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I decided to plank the after lower deck using 0.7mm x 3.4mm Boxwood strip to gauge the effect.

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The central hole takes the heel of the Capstan.

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The provided engraved deck is a perfect fit but looks almost too perfect for my taste.

I can’t mix and match, it is either all engraved, or all planked.

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Inner bulwarks are fitted that form the cable stores and provide additional support for the bulkheads.

These also are secured by use of pegs beneath the deck.

 

I am still trying to work out how to proceed with the main section of the Lower deck.

I would really prefer to plank it and incorporate separate scuttles giving a more realistic look to the deck.

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The scuttles, numbering seven each side with double opening would suggest they may be hinged, but the inclusion of two lifting rings to each section would suggest that the scuttles were simply lifted as required.

 

I have not seen this arrangement of scuttles on a deck before and it raises many questions.

Why so many, were there ladders beneath, where did they go, were sections of the hold compartmentalised?

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The Adm. plans offer no answers; the only items specifically shown are the shot locker and mast footings.

There does seem to be an orlop platform below the aft ladderway.

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In actual construction were the scuttle covers plain sections of board, as suggested in the kit, or planked as was usual with the upper deck scuttles such as those for the Top ropes?

The scuttles range in size with the largest being 32”x 63” and the smallest 29”x 30”

There is little room for planking (2.5mm) between the scuttles which seem to be rebated into the deck beams fore and aft. Were fillers of planking running laterally along the beams used to maintain the level with the deck planking?

 

 

Just thinking aloud, and I doubt I will get answers, always more questions than answers in ship modelling.

Readers could be forgiven for thinking why is he bothering about such details, the answer is I can’t help myself.😜

Until I resolve these issues in my mind I can’t really proceed in this area.

 

It is a simple task to remove the sub deck thanks to Chris’s design, and I’ll have a play around off model.

 

B.E.

09/12/2024

 

[Jim Lad]

A nice start, B.E.

 

John

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you, John, a long way to go, and many a slip to avoid.🫤

 

Post 3

Laying out the Lower deck.

I have decided to give planking the sub deck a go even tho’ it is covered with incumbrances in the form of scuttles, and will no doubt provide an interesting exercise.

I will set the deck fittings first and plank up to them.

To this end the deck fittings, coamings/gratings, Sail Room structure, etc will need to be raised by the thickness of the deck planks to give the correct height.

This is done by adding 0.8mm Pear strip to the bottom edges of the fittings.

 

Firstly, patterns of the scuttle covers are taken from the plans and glued in place atop 0.8mm Boxwood sheet, cut out, and glued atop the sub deck.

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I first pin the covers to the sub-deck using the pre-drilled ring bolt holes, to check position.

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Pva is used to glue the covers in place, maintaining the correct positions. With stuff so thin good  clamping is required to counter the tendency to curl.

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Here the ports side covers are glued, and I have started to remove the paper patterns.

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The idea is to have covers that look as if they are removeable rather than lines on a board. That the covers are only 0.8mm thick is neither here nor there, the object is to fool the eye.

 

The engraved covers on the kit plans seem to show a frame-work around them.

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The Adm plan seems to show the split between the cover halves extending edge to edge which would suggest to me that the covers sit within ledges cut in the deck frames and on longitudinal carlings.

For this reason I have taken the full size of the kit covers which are closer to the overall size as shown on the adm. plans.

 

I have decided to leave the covers plain rather than planked, much in the fashion of loft lids. It will provide a contrast to the planked areas.

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With the scuttles in place I will have a firm edge to plank to and I will be able to plank the deck off model.

 

B.E.

11/12/2024.

 

 

 

[Blue Ensign]

Post 4

Before planking began, it was necessary to check a few steps ahead to see what additional fitting may impact on the decking.

The kit design fortunately allows a stable dry run assembly.

A major fitting of the lower deck is the Sail room comprising an mdf carcass with engraved pear outer panels.

For whatever reason I couldn’t get a good clean fit of these panels at the corners, so I planked the sides using pear strip.

 

One of my pet dislikes is the use of bent-over eyebolts to represent door handles, a common approach in kit world.

A while back I noticed Chuck had produced a range of door handles and hinges that I liked the look of. They come in various sizes the smallest of which are good for 1:64 scale.

Door fittings from Syren.

The handles are plastic, the hinges laser board. Saves all that blackening of pe brass stuff, and easier to glue into place. This is the way to go.

The first door we encounter on the build is to the Sail room.

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I removed the hinge straps to better suit the style of the door.

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On the engraved printed deck, the entire section of the Galley area including the forward area of the galley is shown as unplanked. I am thinking that some of this area (around the stove) should at least be represented by an iron plate, or a brick base, and the remainder planked.

I downloaded a suitable pattern and reduced it to scale.

This was glued to a 0.8 section of boxwood and framed with 1mm Pearwood strip.

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A small enhancement but it will be visible below the upper deck.

As can be seen there is not a great deal of planking involved, a little tricky maybe, but at least there are no butt shifts. Further scraping is required.

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Patterns are used to get the correct position for the Stove base.

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These photos also show the use of square section strips to check the alignment of the deck beams across the Sail room.

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Temporary Beams are also used to ensure the correct position of the stove upon its base.

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The scuttle covers will stand out once the ring bolts are inserted.

 

All of this will now be disassembled and the deck boards scraped to finish.

This diversion from the kit has taken three days of work, but I prefer the look to the provided printed deck.

 

B.E.

14/12/2024

 

[TBlack]

I’m envious of your ability to have so much boxwood. A benefit of living in England?

Tom

[glbarlow]

Glad to see you back at it once again!  I’ve also been looking at Harpy, looks like a fun kit. 

Edited December 14 by glbarlow

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you Glenn, I don't think Harpy would give you much  brain ache, a nice relaxing build I think.

@ Tom - I've got most of my Boxwood from the USA, and Estonia, altho' the stuff I'm using on Harpy is from the UK.

 

Post 5

Fitting the Lower deck

To complete the deck, w-o-p was applied to the boards, and a final light sand using p1000 paper.

To finish the scuttle covers 58 ring bolts are made up.

A repetitive and tiresome task but I prefer the look to ‘bent over’ eye bolts to represent these features.

For these I use Amati 2mm brass rings and fine eyelets. The holes were countersunk to allow the bolt part to sit lower in the cover.

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I still can’t get my head around this scuttle set-up, must have proven awkward walking about with that ring fest on the lower deck.

I have also mused about the purpose of the Sail Room. Was it used for storing sail tackle rather than canvas itself?

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From the Adm. Plan the room is only 9’ x 5’ – a small garden shed in modern terms, not much room for large sails.

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I can now peg the deck in place and add the cable housing sides, also secured by pegs.

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These require gentle handling, the mdf will snap at weak points if lateral pressure is applied. It is also important to seat these fully down without pressure to accept the retaining pegs.

Because I planked the deck careful trimming of the edges was required to facilitate this.

This system is a joy to work with, no more messing about with temporary clamping, and use of tape to check the fit.

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Regarding the cable store, I wonder how they got the cable into it? There is no apparent access either from the Lower deck or above, shown on the Adm. plan.

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More puzzlements have occurred to me about this small vessel than any previous build I have done, a ship of mystery.

Time to carry on with a bit more of the basic construction.

 

B.E.

16/12/2024

[Thukydides]

Great job BE, I really like the modifications you are doing on this kit. Regarding the cable storage I had a similar question a while back (though it related to a Cruiser class vessel, I was considering building). There is no clear indication if it was shelves or walled off, if it extended down to the hold or not. I did ask the question and got a number of responses which though not completely satisfying may help you as you try to puzzle this one out. Post #28 has some analysis on the plans for the Argus which seem to show the cable tier as only going half way up the height of the deck so maybe the access was on the top?

 

[Blue Ensign]

Thanks for that Daniel, an interesting read.

These things do cross your mind when looking at a project, even tho' they won't have an impact overall.

As far as the Harpy model is concerned alterations won't  be  required as these areas are covered by the upper deck, and I will be be very selective in what I expose.

 Thanks again.

 

B.E.

 

[Blue Ensign]

Post 6

 Basic construction cont’d

This involves adding more bulkheads and fillers to aid shaping of the bow, and frames to form the stern.

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The mdf Bow planking patterns are conveniently marked with bevelling lines to start the process, and everything just slots together perfectly. The laser cutting is 100% spot on.

I had a slight glitch when fitting the aftermost bulkhead (17) This is fitted prior to adding the two assembled stern cabins on the Upper deck.

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No doubt due to a senior moment I failed to make sure that part 17 was fully seated down before gluing to the stern post, with the result that the cabin assemblies would not seat properly in their allotted slots.

Fortunately, I managed to deconstruct without damage and rectify the situation.

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The carcases for the stern cabins, are a simple assembly and slot into the aftermost bulkheads.

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I found it easier to slip the assembly over the aftermost bulkhead first, and then ease into the forward slots.

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These two structures are noted on the Adm plan as:

‘Pantry’ starboard side, and ‘Necessary’ Port side.

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So that’s the basic carcase stage of construction completed. The more interesting stage of fitting the internal panelling and cabin divisions beckons.

 

B.E.

18/12/2024

[Glenn-UK]

Looking good, as always.

[Blue Ensign]

Thank you Glenn, I think you will enjoy building this one..

 

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Lower deck work continues.

In this post I add the lower deck internal partitions but before fitting, the door hinges and handles must be applied.

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I am using the Syren versions from Chuck.

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The cabin layouts are a reasonable proximation of those shown on the Adm. plan and I’m not motivated to change them, particularly given the restricted views below the Upper deck.

In the Bow area are cabins for the Gunners stores, and Boatswain (Port) and Carpenters Cabin (Starboard)

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Stern cabin layout.

The Adm. plan is the first I’ve seen which gives specific names to the individual cabins. More divisions are shown than on the model. Forward of the Capt.’s cabin are berths for the Ist Lt. Master, and Pusser (starboard) 2^nd Lt. Surgeon, and Gunner. (Port)

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There are a lot of door handles and hinges to fit, tiny little beggars that tested my eye sight to the limit, but at least nothing required chemical blackening.

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With all the partitions in place I can begin to look at the internal space of the lower deck to see what additional detailing I can do, and start to envisage how much of the lower deck it is practical to expose.

 

B.E.

19/12/2024

 

[Glenn-UK]

17 minutes ago, Blue Ensign said:

Thank you Glenn, I think you will enjoy building this one..

 

Thanks, my Harpy kit is in the shipyard and I am itching to get started but I will continue on with the Sherbourne which I am using to try out some different ideas.

[Blue Ensign]

Post 8

Deck beams

The next stage in this build is fitting the upper deck beams. There are 17 correctly scaled and shaped beams covering the open areas of the ship.

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The beams require the usual Char removal, a job made quick and easy by use of the Proxxon Micromot tool .

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The beams are test fitted to ensure that they sit fully down in the pre-cut notches. Only minor tweaking of a couple of the notches was necessary to get a perfect fit.

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It is worth dry testing the fit of the Mast and Capstan partners, and the run of the pump shafts down to the hold.

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A few carlings yet to add.

 

For those who may think - what about hanging knees and Lodging knees?

The design of the kit precludes an opportunity or perhaps burden of including these as the beams don’t stretch to what would be the frames of the hull, an area of necessity, covered by deck planking.

 

Moving on..

 

B.E

20/12/2024