druxey Posted December 13, 2017 Share #361 Posted December 13, 2017 Welcome back, Gary! It's nice to see your beautiful model beginning to progress again. Nice workbench too! mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEDDO Posted December 13, 2017 Share #362 Posted December 13, 2017 45 inch x 13 seems like the perfect size! mtaylor 1 Quote Michael Shipwrights of Ohio Current Build: ... Completed Builds: Queen Anne Barge - Syren, Pinnace - MS, Halifax 1768 - LSS, Murrelet - Pygmy, Swift 1805 - AL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 13, 2017 Share #363 Posted December 13, 2017 It's super to see you've returned and are back on Alfred, Gary. I hope all is well now. MEDDO 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share #364 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) Thanks druxey. I did enjoy building the work bench and always wanted one. Seems the drawers took the longest to build which probably had some thing to do with them being dove tailed together. That was interesting for sure. Didn't come out to bad. if I didn't have the leigh dove tail jig probably would have just made box joints. If any one is interested in building one I added the cover of the magazine showing the bench. Hi Michael. For me it just right. To hard on the eyes if it was any smaller. Hi Mark. Every thing is ok at the moment and seems am very happy to be back to work on her. Who knows maybe I just might get the upper deck built, that is if I get the outside planking done. ;o) Gary Edited December 13, 2017 by garyshipwright mtaylor, popash42, John Cheevers and 1 other 4 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjdale Posted December 13, 2017 Share #365 Posted December 13, 2017 Great to see you back at work on your magnificent Alfred, Gary. mtaylor and MEDDO 2 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted December 13, 2017 Share #366 Posted December 13, 2017 Good to see you back in the shipyard, Gary. Like everyone else, I have missed your presence on the site. Nice job on the bench - a good diversionary project. By the way, what is the model in the case? I do not recall seeing that before. Cheers, Ed mtaylor and MEDDO 2 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Bordeleau Posted December 13, 2017 Share #367 Posted December 13, 2017 Welcome back to the shipyard Gary, The only way to have the perfect model ship workbench which suit your needs, is to build it, as you done yourself, very nice. mtaylor and MEDDO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share #368 Posted December 14, 2017 Thanks Grant, Ed and Gaetan, its good to be back. Have missed you guys and seems a lot has gone on since I have been gone. Ed the ship that was in the back ground is the Bonhomme Richard, 1779. Built her in the nintys and was the one I built before starting on Montagu. Believe I finished her right around the time the misses had our daughter, which would make Richard about 19teen years old. My how time fly's when your having fun. Gaetan you are so right and building it got me back out in to the workshop and close to Montagu. Seems she kept calling my name, Gary build me and they will come. Thats my story and am sticking to it. Have added a photo of Richard here for you Ed. gary capnharv2, mtaylor, Landlubber Mike and 6 others 9 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted December 14, 2017 Share #369 Posted December 14, 2017 Hello shipyard Gary Great work! I am looking for some books or plans about British 1 -3 rate ship in 18th century,can you tell me the 3 books that are marked in red in the picture? thanks! Mirabell61 and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share #370 Posted December 14, 2017 Hi hjx. All of those books are good and contain certain information that helps in your shipbuilding. To me the library I have built up over the years has more then paid for it self and to me is really really important to researching and building them. I have added photos of those books which should help. You do what to figure out which era you want to build from so your cost on books won't go through the roof. Happy reading Gary mtaylor and Captain Poison 2 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted December 15, 2017 Share #371 Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, garyshipwright said: Hi hjx. All of those books are good and contain certain information that helps in your shipbuilding. To me the library I have built up over the years has more then paid for it self and to me is really really important to researching and building them. I have added photos of those books which should help. You do what to figure out which era you want to build from so your cost on books won't go through the roof. Happy reading Gary Thanks shipyard Gary! I have two of them,The construction and fitting of the English man of war, 1650-1850 and The 74 gun ship bellona,The previous one is very professional, However, it is a little regrettable that there are few descriptions on keel splicing. I checked out the introduction of these books, ordered 3 of them. And buy another one. I have some questions about 74gun/64gun/90gun,I'll consult you after reading these books. thanks! Edited December 15, 2017 by hjx mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted December 15, 2017 Share #372 Posted December 15, 2017 Hi Gary, your HMS Alfred looks wonderful, congrats to this nice build. Also your new work bench is lovely..... Nils John Allen and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdT Posted December 15, 2017 Share #373 Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks for the photo, Gary. She is lovely. Ed mtaylor 1 Quote All EdT posted material Copyright 2016 Edward J Tosti Young America - extreme clipper 1853 Young America POB Version Modeling the Extreme Clipper Young America Vol 1 1:60 HMS Naiad 1797 The Naiad Frigate Vol I The Naiad Frigate Vol II1:96 Victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share #374 Posted December 15, 2017 Thanks Nils and EdT. It did take me a couple of months to build the hobby bench and really enjoyed building it. Gary Bob Legge, mtaylor and Mirabell61 3 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share #375 Posted January 2, 2018 Hi Guys. Here is another update, small one but one I have been working on. Some thing I did along with at least half of the channel wale done on the port side was to remove some of the planking above the main wale on the other strbd side along with taken her main guns off to add some more detail to them. Another thing is the eyebolts will be removed from the sides till the upper deck hanging knees are fitted. They have to be in place first then the eye bolts. Kind of late but Merry Christmas and a happy new year. gary Dubz, Captain Poison, albert and 23 others 26 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albert Posted January 2, 2018 Share #376 Posted January 2, 2018 Wonderful work Gary, very very nice. mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted January 2, 2018 Share #377 Posted January 2, 2018 Nice, Gary, looking very good. I don't see your cannon; are those still going to be fitted on both sides of the gundeck? Mark mtaylor 1 Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANYAN Posted January 3, 2018 Share #378 Posted January 3, 2018 Very nice work Gary, cheers Pat mtaylor 1 Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share #379 Posted January 3, 2018 (edited) Thanks Albert, Mark, Pat and for those who gave it a like. Mark as far as the cannon's go they are only being placed on the stbd side, the port side will remain as you see it. Gary Edited January 3, 2018 by garyshipwright albert and mtaylor 2 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnharv2 Posted January 3, 2018 Share #380 Posted January 3, 2018 Gary, I've been following (and enjoyed) your build of the Alfred (almost) since you started it (both here and other forums). You've done some amazing work, and we're glad that you're back! Harvey mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 3, 2018 Author Share #381 Posted January 3, 2018 Thanks Harvey. Does seem to have been awhile since I first started her and thank you for followering her build. Still have a lot of work to do on her and who knows maybe I finish her gun deck this year. ;o) Gary mtaylor and capnharv2 2 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack H Posted January 13, 2018 Share #382 Posted January 13, 2018 Hi Gray! After a month's waiting, I received the first book.Building The Wooden Fighting Ship.It's easy to understand and very useful to me( used to develop the 18th Century British 3rd rate ship model from NMM original drawing.) Can you recommend some more books on British 1st or 2nd rate ship in 18th Century? Thanks so much for your helping. HJX mtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share #383 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Hi HJX. There seems to be a whole lot less on building 1st and 2nd rates compared to building 74s, but other then size I would think that they were put together much the same way. I do have a couple of books, some center on the Victory, one writtern by a French spy and another one that coveres French 74 to 120 guns French warship's. One is done by Boudriot and the other by David Roberts produce by Boudriot. On a different not to the rest of the crew here, I messed up on Montagu channel making it higher then it was post to be so had to rip all of the installed planking down to the main wale off and start over again. I was crying some big tears but one must do what one must do, so the delay may be just a little late in coming but am working on it. Gary. Edited January 15, 2018 by garyshipwright Jack H, mtaylor, Mike Y and 1 other 4 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted January 15, 2018 Share #384 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) Sorry to read about your re-do, Gary. Usually the channels rest against the outer planking, and are not inserted into a slot in them. Edited January 15, 2018 by druxey mtaylor 1 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted January 15, 2018 Share #385 Posted January 15, 2018 Gary, sorry to hear about the channel mix-up. I look forward to the updates, when undoubtably the planking will be even better than the previous because you have now had a practice run! Mark mtaylor and Wintergreen 2 Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 15, 2018 Author Share #386 Posted January 15, 2018 Thanks Mark. I didn't like it anyway and even if it had not been off, I would probably tore it off, and redid it, for a couple of other things. Things in Model ship building allways seem to come out better when you do it 2 or three times. Of course when you look at some of the other outstanding models on site, they do set a high bench to live up to. Speaking of one how is yours coming. ;o). Gary mtaylor 1 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted January 15, 2018 Share #387 Posted January 15, 2018 Ouch! Practice makes perfect is not much of comfort. Just keep focused and it will turn out even better than before as Mark says. mtaylor 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJSoane Posted January 16, 2018 Share #388 Posted January 16, 2018 Gary, you are so right about doing things a couple of times to finally figure out what you are doing. Now if we had all had apprenticeships with a master model builder when we were young, we might have been able to avoid a few mistakes later in life, but not all... Mark mtaylor 1 Quote Current build: HMS Bellona 74, ca. 1760, 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/196-hms-bellona-by-sjsoane-scale-164-1760-as-designed/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share #389 Posted January 16, 2018 Thanks Hakan. Mark you hit the nail on the head, To many years with out some body to help us become even better ship builders. We do have some good teachers to help us these days. One just has to grab on to their shirt tail and just hang on. Gary mtaylor and Mark P 2 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyshipwright Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share #390 Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) On 1/14/2018 at 7:39 PM, druxey said: Sorry to read about your re-do, Gary. Usually the channels rest against the outer planking, and are not inserted into a slot in them. Hi druxey. Sorry about that sir, I didn't mean the channels that hold the dead eyes but the channel wales them self. Seems that I didn't do a very good job of measuring were they fit along the side. It did help me make up my mind about a couple of planks that wasn't kind to the eyes. Gary Edited January 16, 2018 by garyshipwright druxey and mtaylor 2 Quote HMS Montague/Alfred class by Gary B 74 gun ship built in 1779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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