Blue Ensign

Cheers Chris - worse than I thought. 😄

B.E.

Not sure enjoyment is the right word Glenn, but there is a satisfaction to be had  from a nicely completed set of guns.

A bit of overkill with Indy where there are 40 of the beggars to assemble, of which 28 are long guns. There is a lot of work in doing the guns properly - char cleaning, assembly, painting, blackening and adding ironwork,  weathering the barrels, rectifying flaws, ........

How would it look without guns I wonder😉

I'm starting with the long guns, and hope to basic assemble four or five per day.

Five already done, Twenty-one to go.🙄

onwards...

B.E.

Your ingenuity knows no bounds Nils, and I just love the look of the painted hull, such realism.

Regards,

B.E.

All coming together very nicely Glenn, useful to have a look ahead as I slowly move forward.

B.E.

Post Sixty-one

Looking at the guns - Part One

The carriages are laser cut from 2mm pear and are nicely detailed, incorporating the bracket lines.

 Part of the design includes a tab at the front end to slot into a mortise in the deck to hold the carriage in place. (The guns are added later)

The system should go a long way towards preventing the rattle of loose guns rolling around the lower decks in places they can’t be retrieved.

The drawback of this system is that cap squares are of necessity omitted as the guns are fed thro’ the ports to be glued into place.

Not much of a loss where the decks are to be closed in, and better than loose cannon.

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My first job is to make a simple jig to hold the parts that make up the carriages which consist of four separate pieces for the main structure.

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A jig speeds up assembly, and there are a lot to assemble.

There is the usual issue of square axles fitting round holes on the trucks. The merest pass with a sanding stick is required to knock the corners off the axles to allow fitment of the trucks. It is a fine line between fit and the square peg in a round hole image.

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It is impossible to get a proper fit to the truck with undersized square axles, as the above photo shows.

Ideally the axles should be slightly over size to allow for accurate rounding. I suppose they could be shimmed, but that’s a lot of extra work.

On a practical note, this deficiency will not stand out once the guns are fitted.

The trucks are a miniature delight complete with engraved bolt holes and section joints. There is enough room on the axles for the addition of truck keys for über detailers.

As with previous kits I am not generally keen on the supplied eyebolts that represent the hoops on the carriages sides that take the tackle hooks, but with this chunky 24 pdr carriage, they don’t look too bad.

I did feel it necessary to modify the one fitting to a ring bolt to take the breeching rope.

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In this shot the yet to be blackened ringbolt has replaced one of the supplied eyebolts.

The sharp eyed may also notice the handle added to the Quoin.

This is simply a short length of wire with a blob of pva on the end.

I won’t be using the peg and slot system for gun securing as access to all decks will be available on my build.

The tab did prove useful to hold the carriages during painting, and scored each side it snaps cleanly away when finished.

In part two I will be looking at the Resin gun barrels.

B.E.

10/08/2023

That certainly didn’t come to mind looking at your coppering Kevin, I think it looks  good against the black above the waterline. 👍

B.E.

Ha, Ha, Alistair, in British parlance reference to a  dogs dinner refers to a confused, badly done, mess, or in terms of clothing - overdressed for a particular occasion. Not taken as a compliment in either respect. 😁

B.E.

Well, thank you Gentlemen, with such advice from my fellow modellers, including Chris who designed and supplied the makings, I feel I must accept.

Mrs W has also added her vote for an unadorned hull.

So, the hull will be left au naturel.

Thanks again for helping me to resolve this issue, the decision to copper is a lot easier to make when the eye is less than satisfied with the planking.

I still quite like the coppered look and there are  good examples of  'Indy' builds using  both tape and plate  to inform any decision, but as has been said, a plain hull perhaps better suits a Navy Board style.

As it happens the colour of the Pearwood is very close to that of a tarnished copper penny.

I will invert the hull to apply a final coat of w-o-p, and then get on with it.

Cheers,

B.E.

I’m so in tune with that aesthetic Chris, 17th/18th c is my favourite period.

Love your idea of a Royal George.

One of my most cherished watercolour prints by Derek Gardner, a great subject for a model.

B.E.

Post Sixty

Dressing the Gun-deck

The inner bulwark painting has been completed and the coamings re-coated to cover blemishes resulting during the planking process.

The deck was then given a final scrape before varnished using Vallejo matt varnish.

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The bright red brick stove base as shown in the manual didn’t appeal to my eye, I used darker tones and weathering powders to create a more muted look.

It was then onto a ladder fest, tricky little beggars to assemble and one of my least favourite tasks I always seem to be fingers and thumbs trying to keep them square.

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These are quite flimsy to assemble as the scale dictates, ‘soft hands’ a definite requirement.

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Finally, I added the shot garlands which I had previously removed from the coamings.

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The crunch point has now arrived where I must decide whether to copper, as any further fittings will impede the inversion of the hull.

I remain torn on the subject, so to maintain impetus I will clean up and paint the numerous deck fittings to defer the decision a while longer.

B.E.

06/08/2023

Post Fifty-nine

Inner bulwarks

Time to give these some attention.

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Firstly, the Proxxon Pen sander with angled arbors proved very useful to clean up around the inner gunports prior to painting.

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The Spirketting and upper ledges which border the gunports are fitted before painting.

Don’t know how much will eventually show but Chris has taken the trouble to engrave the spirketting with a Hook and butt planking pattern, a nice touch.

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My final action is to fit the waterway representation using lengths of angled 2mm Pear strip.

I settled on six scuppers along waterway, with a diameter of 1.5mm.

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A first coat of diluted paint is applied using Vallejo Flat Red.

I will be faffing around with this over the weekend to get a finish I am happy with.

B.E.

04/08/2023

Post Fifty-eight

Ensure everything fits.

A few hours spent fettlin’ the mortises.

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I used my deck template to ensure the locations particularly of the deck pillars.

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The Swann-Morton micro chisels proved very useful for clearing the pillar mortises on the modified head ledges.

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I’m thinking that the wooden pillars fore and aft of the Capstan step might be better represented by hinged iron stanchions.

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The masts and Bowsprit are cut to full kit size and tested for fit.

Fully rigged she is going to take up a lot of room, but will no doubt look magnificent.

I hasten to add I will not be going down that road.

B.E.

03/08/2023

18 hours ago, CaptnBirdseye said:

Hi B.E.

Must say she is looking a real beauty! 

Do you mind me asking why you prefer scraping rather than sanding? Apologies if you've answered this elsewhere

Each to their own I suppose Capt. but I find scraping gives me a better finish and more control. It is also easier to work between the centre line hatches etc;

I also find it very satisfying, sort of like planning.☺️

B.E.

Thankyou Glenn and Shipman.

@ Glenn -  Not even thought about gun fixing yet, but  there are ways and means, other than deck slots.

@ Shipman - It's the aesthetics that appeal to me but tricky to provide in a kit with laser parts, even for someone with such  ingenuity as Mr Watton.

Post Fifty-seven

Completion of gundeck planking.

Four more days and the last strakes are put into place.

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The final strakes meet the top & butt planking and require individual spiling for a good fit.

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The deck now requires scraping (not sanding) and my tool of choice is an old plane blade. It has the right weight and feel for drawing along the deck.

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Quite amazing the improvement a good scraping makes to a deck, and with 1mm depth of board there is little fear of over doing it.

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Not quite done yet, I now need to enlarge the mortises and trial fit the deck impediments before the deck is given a final scrape and a matt varnish finish.

B.E.

02/08/2023

A very fine job, and well worth the effort, well done.👍

B.E.

The headworks look so much better Kevin,👍, I like the shading you've achieved on the figure's cloak, well done.

B.E.

Post Fifty-six

…and more deck planking.

Another three days, and the Port side planking is completed.

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By removing a number of the existing planks  I had hoped to then infill to the top and butt without too much trouble.

In retrospect it would have been far better not to plank beyond the central belt before fitting the t&b strakes.

The result is that the available space towards the stern was insufficient to accommodate the required number of planks, without an eclectic mix of shapes and sizes. 

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As Mr Spock may say it’s planking Jim but not as we know it.

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So Guys what d’ye think. - Don’t give up the day job Boss!

Unfortunately this is my day job now, but on balance I decided not to rip it all up and start again, that would throw me short of planking, and I'm otherwise  ok with what will be the visible element.

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Spot the double drop planks, necessary because of lack of planking foresight.

Annoying, but on the positive side the suspect area will be mostly hidden by the Qtr deck and aftermost 24 pounder guns.

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The forward end of the planking and the top and butt strakes are ok.

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I generally enjoy deck planking, I find it therapeutic, but one of the downsides with 'Indy' is because of the hull size, and high bulwarks, the planking has to be done standing up.

Leaning over the hull, gives me back, neck, and shoulder ache, but it will all be worth it in the end.🤞

Onto the Starboard side, and more hours of fun.

B.E.

29/07/2023

Cheers Kevin, it feels like I'm making it up as I go along at the moment, but hopefully it will come right in the end.🤞

B.E.

Post Fifty-six

That Top and Butt deck planking.

Having a jig on hand gave me the impetus to play around with Top and Butt.

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Having cut out a stock of planks I found it useful to play around applying them to the deck in the manner of a jigsaw puzzle to help visualise of what is required, particularly at the bow and stern.

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I concluded it was doable and I started at the bow.

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At the stern I realised that some de-constructed was required to avoid running out of planking space.

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Removing some of the already laid planks not too troublesome with the application of water and use of a sharp micro chisel.

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Tapering of the planks as they run towards the stern, will be required, ideally with a finished butt width of not less than 3mm. Removal of further existing planks will also be involved.

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Tick strips will be used to facilitate the tapering.

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A fair bit of extra work, but I’m fairly content with progress.

B.E.

27/07/2023

Post Fifty-five

Planking cont’d

I am now outside of the central run of planking, and from this point on I will be using 4mm planks.

I have decided on 30’ planks equating to around 140mm at scale, using a three-butt shift pattern.

Planking continues and the photos below show the state of play after a couple of days solid work.

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I now need to decide on the form of the strakes that abut the margin plank.

I am aware that two strakes of Top and Butt deck planking for the outer strakes were used during this period.

Goodwin (Construction and Fitting…) makes mention of this style of planking the gundeck but indicates that most vessels were planked with parallel strakes. He adds that the practise was probably adopted towards the end of the 18thc and its purpose to resist athwartships compression when the vessel was in heavy seas.

I have no knowledge whether 'Indy' was so planked, but I suspect that with a full battery of 24 pounders on a ‘64’ hull it may have been the case.

The only visual reference source I have is Vol 11 of the TFFM for the sixth-rate sloop. The book contains drawings of Top and butt planking combined with hooded planks.

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At this point I don’t have a clear idea of how to approach the fitting of t&b particularly at the curvature of the margin plank towards the bow.

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Another important issue is if I manage to cobble together a set of t&b, how will that impact on planking the remaining space.

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The simple option would be to continue the planking and joggle the planks ends into the margin. I’m tempted, but I do have a jig for t&b…..

I’ll take some time out and have a play around.

B.E.

25/07/2023

There's something looking a little awry with the headworks Kevin.

 Should not the Main Rail (top rail) sit behind  the Hair bracket that runs up from the upper cheek?

B.E.

Very nicely presented Chris, and well worth  completing.

You must hold the record for the MSW longest build on the stocks to be completed award.

I thought my Pegasus build of seven years was a marathon.

Regards,

B.E.

Post Fifty-four

Onto the deck planking

 A very wet weekend in these ‘ere parts allowed for good progress in planking the gundeck.

Before I start, I forgot to mention the Capstan step for the Upper deck, or lower Capstan.

The kit provided part (278) looked a little unusual to me, of a shape reminiscent of a toilet seat.

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Of minor relevance if the area is to be decked over, but in my version it is likely to be unplanked.

I replaced the kit version with a more conventional set-up, made from Box sheet. The kit version sits atop it in this photo.

For the deck planking I am using 1mm Boxwood strip obtained from Hobbycraft EU. The main supply is of 4mm width but I will also be using 5mm and 6mm widths in various areas.

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I start the job at the stern and work forward; for this first phase I am planking between and around the centre line deck fittings.

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When it came to the brick base for the Gally stove I wasn’t too sure whether to plank around the base guidelines on the sub deck or fit the base atop the planking. The manual pics which used the engraved deck pattern indicates that the base is inset the deck pattern.

I decided to temporarily fit a dummy brick base, and plank around it.

One of the tenets or principles of deck planking is that very thin strips are undesirable, such as abutting the coamings of hatches. These would present areas of weakness subject to rot.

In these areas broader planks are required, so a range of planking widths are required. If the fittings are applied post decking then it is often a question of pot luck where the  planking lines fall.

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The broader planks bordering the Main and Fore hatchways can be seen in the above shots.

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I have used 4mm,5mm,and 6mm strips in completing this area.

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Once past the central section the planking tends to regularise., until at least it approaches the margin/waterway planks.

At that point there is another decision to be made.

B.E.

23/07/2023

Thanks for your comments and 'likes' guys 👍

Post Fifty-three

Completion of gundeck hatches.

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The modified hatches are painted, and the gratings given the  w-o-p treatment.

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I always approach the gluing of fittings along the centre line with some anxiety. Particularly on a large length of deck  as on Indy it can be tricky to ensure that they are all in true alignment.

I spend a lot of time dry fitting the hatch sets before I commit to glue.

Whether you plank before or after, this same issue will be encountered.

Fitting the hatches before planking allows for a more accurate and interesting deck layout around the coamings, albeit a more fiddly and time-consuming approach.

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I start by fixing the mainmast partner base. On the kit this is attached to the hatchway abaft the Mainmast, (193) but I separated them. This base also has the holes to take the elmtree pumps.

I use small diameter round dowel to secure the base in the correct position, this will also double up as pump fixings.

As on the original these pump trunks run thro’ all decks to the bilges, pity they ain’t hollow.

The sets are now glued into place on the deck centre -line.

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The hatchway aft of the Mainmast butts against the partners. This is followed by the aft ladderway set.

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The main and Fore sets follow.

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At each stage I sight along the deck and from all angles to check the run.

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The run is also sighted from distance along the floor.

With this it’s not the getting down that’s the problem, it’s getting back up again, taking this behemoth with you. 🙄

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Time to move on Wills.

B.E.

21/07/2023

Post Fifty-five

Hatches and gratings – Part Two

Modifying the hatches was fairly straightforward on Sphinx, not quite so on 'Indy.'

On all three of the hatch/ladderway sets there are support pillars central to the head ledges; adding a round-up complicates the fitting.

Apart from any other consideration, I think a slight round-up and camber to the gratings provides a much more pleasing aspect.

Whether the coamings are high or low, a camber appeared to apply.

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To create the camber, I attach strips of Boxwood atop the ledges. This is then shaped down to a feather edge where it meets the coamings.

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Cleaning up still required but you get the idea.

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The gratings camber was formed around a large diameter cardboard tube (4¼”)

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Bit of a leap of faith this, you never know until the job is done whether the grating will fall apart having been given the water and heat treatment.

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The Main hatch was supplied with three sections of gratings. I’m pleased Chris provided this arrangement, I had to do it myself on Sphinx, and tricky little beggars they were to make.

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In my version the coamings rise 4.4mm (11”) above the deck with the Head ledges higher by 1mm.

Once fully cleaned up the coamings will be painted black and the gratings left bright.

B.E.

20/07/2023