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  1. @druxey

    @albert

    Many thanks for your interest and encouragement, and thanks to everyone for the many LIKES.

     

    In the meantime, the constant rain here in Bavaria is getting on my nerves.
    On the other hand, I can spend more time building models again, so I can show you the latest results:

     

    Equipping the fore royal yard - Vergue de petit cacatois
    I continued with the equipment of the fore royal yard, analogous to the main royal yard. The fore royal yard still has a thickness of around 2.2 mm in the middle.
    The first picture shows the attached tye and parral.

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    The clew line blocks that had already been produced were then fitted with served block strops and attached to the yard.

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    This was followed by the final fitting of the yard with the lifts, braces and clew lines. As already mentioned, I will not be attaching any sails to this model. Accordingly, I will later connect the clew lines of the royals to the sheets without the corners of the clews using the toggles.

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    Last but not least, a picture with the center section of the main yard for size comparison.

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    To be continued ...

     

  2. @Thukydides

    Thank you for your nice comment, and everyone else for the many LIKES.

     

     

    Equipment of the main royal yard – Vergue de grand cacatois
    The royal yards are on the 4th floor of the rigging. Since these yards on the La Créole were obviously equipped with lifts and braces, it can be assumed that they were already an integral part of the ship's rigging. In contrast, until the end of the 18th century, the royal sails were often hoisted together with the yards and flown as fair-weather sails only when necessary, i.e. without braces and lifts.
    To carry out the tyes for the royal yards of La Créole, I have photos of the original model at my disposal, which a restorer from the Musée de la Marine in Paris kindly photographed in the depot especially for me.
    You can't see much in the following picture of a royal yard of the Paris model, except that the tye is somehow knotted and doesn't have a hook like that of the togallant yards.

     

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    Source: Musée national de la Marine de Paris – La Créole

     

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    Source: Atlas du Génie Maritime


    In conjunction with the depiction of a royal yard from the Atlas du Génie Maritime and various other examples, the tyes may have looked like this.

     

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    My model implementation or interpretation of the tye ø 17 mm (ø 0.35 mm in model scale) for the main royal yard looks like this:

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    Next I made the parral. The royal yards receive a slightly simpler version of a parral, only served with ropes, without leather covering.

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    This was followed by the production of the single blocks for the royal yards. These were used to guide the clew lines - The clew lines for the main royal sail had a diameter of 11 mm (in the model scale ø 0.23 mm), accordingly the blocks were around 13.5 cm long (in the model scale approx. 2.8 mm) according to the table in the monograph .

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    After attaching the grommets as abrasion protection, the equipment of the main royal yard was completed by attaching the braces and lifts.

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    We then continue with the fore royal yard.
    Sequel follows …

  3. Continuation: Equipping the mizzen topgallant yard - Vergue de perruche
    After the small mishap, as reported, I have now made a new mizzen topgallant yard and fully equipped it. This means that the topgallant yard chapter can be put to bed until it is installed on the model.
    Here is a picture of the finished mizzen topgallant yard. 
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    And another picture with the tye.

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    The next picture shows different yards of the French corvette in size comparison. In the center you can see the mizzen topgallant yard. Above it is the mizzen royal yard and finally the middle section of the main yard is shown below.
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    The next step is to equip the royal yards with the necessary rigging elements. Then I'll finally have finished fitting out the yards.
    To be continued ...

     

  4. Hello Greg,

    You're right, of course, making the rigging elements takes longer.
    I hope that I will soon be able to present the new mizzen topgallant yard ready and finished.


    At the moment I'm still researching how to carry out the tyes for the royal yards. I originally thought that these would be done in the same way as the topgallant yards, but obviously these are designed to be simpler.
     

  5.  

    Perhaps I might add, basically there are quarter blocks with one disc, so-called single blocks, and with two discs, so-called double blocks.
    In the lower yards, the quarter blocks were large single blocks to guide the sheets. The clew lines were managed in separate blocks.
    In the topsail and topgallant yards, quarter blocks were arranged as double blocks to guide the clewlines and sheets together approximately in the middle of the yard.
    Since the clew lines are usually thinner than the sheets, these double blocks usually also have different disc gates. Therefore, these blocks are also called thick-and-thin blocks.

  6. @druxey

    Hello,
    I'm glad you like it. Thanks !
    I would also like to thank everyone else for the LIKES.

     

    Continuation: Equipment of the mizzen topgallant yard – Vergue de perruche
    After a suggestion from model building colleagues, I secured the mousing of the hook for the tye with a thinner three strand rope with a diameter of 0.15 mm that was specially made for this purpose.

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    We then continued with the quarter blocks (clew lines and sheets), which are among the smallest double blocks on the model.
    For the block ropes I used ropes with a diameter of 0.25 mm, which were served with silk yarn.

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    The last two pictures show the arrangement of the quarter blocks with the truss already attached.

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    Up soon …

  7.  Continuation: Equipment of the mizzen topgallant yard – Vergue de perruche 
    After a short creative break, we continue with the equipment of the mizzen topgallant yard. The equipment and rigging elements basically correspond to those of the fore topgallant yard, but again with correspondingly smaller dimensions. The mizzen topgallant tye is also equipped with a hook. At around 4 mm long, this is even smaller than the hook for the tye of the fore topgallant yard. Of course, the eye splice couldn't be missing either. With a rope with a diameter of 0.35 mm (2x3 Japanese silk thread - rope in the original ø 17 mm) this is a difficult matter, but after some practice it is definitely doable. It just looks better and corresponds to the original design.
    As already described several times, I use an injection needle as a hollow spike for splicing, with a diameter of 0.8 mm for the thin ropes.
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    In the next picture you can see the mizzen topgallant tye with the double strop and the thimble already tied on to guide the simple clueline.
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    Sequel follows …

  8. @Gregory

    @Keith Black

    Hello,

    thank you very much for your kind words.
     

     

    Musée national de la Marine in Paris

    Today I have to get the following off my chest.
    As you all know, the Musée national de la Marine in Paris reopened its doors some time ago after many years of renovation and modernization. Our forum colleague Eberhard @wefalck reported on this with impressive photos.
    I actually planned to visit the reopened museum later this year and in particular to view and photograph my "object of desire", the original model of "La Créole", in order to, among other things, to explore unclear details of the upper rigging.
    After his first visit, Eberhard indicated that he was not sure whether “La Créole” could still be seen in the permanent exhibition.
    After contacting the museum, I was informed that this was indeed the case and that the "La Créole" had ended up in storage, like many other models. When I asked if it would be possible to take a few photos of the upper rigging (topgallant yards and royal yards), I was referred to the restorers. A very friendly restorer then went to the depot especially for me and took a whole series of pictures of the rigging.
    Regardless of the fact that these recordings are very valuable for my project, I am shocked by the fact that this beautiful model has now become the victim of a new museum education.
    Apparently the aim is to reach a wider audience. The German Museum is also apparently following this trend. As I found out, for example, the beautiful 74 model after Boudriot by our forum colleague Robert @tarjack can no longer be seen in the permanent exhibition.
    Is this the future of cultural-historical and artistic creation?

    Here is a picture from the depot of the Paris museum, where the "La Créole" will now eke out its future existence alongside many other models.

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    It almost looks like a prison, which makes me a little sad. Previously proudly presented in the permanent exhibition, published with glossy photos, among other things, by J. Boudriot and now in the depot without protection. Hopefully the air in the depot is dust-free.
    I'm still hoping that one of the restorers will remember the model and fix the already partially dilapidated rigging.

  9. Continuation: Equipment of the fore topgallant yard – Vergue de petit perroquet
    As announced a long time ago, I started to equip the fore topgallant yard. In principle it is the same rigging elements and accessories as the main topgallant yard, just with reduced dimensions.
    In this respect, I don't want to repeat myself and let the pictures speak for themselves.
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    The double blocks for the royal sheets and the single cluelines are also a little smaller.

    Here is a direct comparison of a quarter block for the main top gallant yard with those of the fore top gallant yard. Unfortunately, at this size you can already see some irregularities.

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    In the next photo I show, among other things: an already made strop for a double block with my scale man, which I've been neglecting a bit lately. Actually a loyal companion at the model building yard for more than 10 years now.

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    And here's another picture of the stirrups. On the one hand you can see the unraveled rope and on the other hand the finished braided plating.

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     The sheets are connected to the cluelines in the usual way when no sails were attached.

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     Finally, here is a picture of the entire fore topgallant yard, but still without lifts.
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    Sequel follows …

  10.  

    Hello dear colleagues,

    I wanted to provide an additional explanation about the braided stirrups.
    In various publications I was able to read how the braids were looped and secured around the yards, but I have not yet found a picture of it. According to these descriptions, I implemented it for my model at the main topgallant yard and now quickly made a drawing at Eberhard's @wefalck request.
    I think it might have looked like this:

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    Of course I can't be absolutely sure about this.

     

  11. @albert

    Thanks for your interest and the nice comment.

     

    @giampieroricci

    Hello,

    This illustration is from the book “Takelung und Ankerkunde” by Freiherr v. Sterneck, published in 1873.
    Can be downloaded as a PDF from Google Books. This is not quite the time of my corvette, but in conjunction with descriptions from contemporary French specialist literature, these depictions are often a good starting point.

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  12. Hello Jerry,

    as explained earlier in my report, the topgallant yards and the royals of my model do not receive any jackstays. In the first years of jackstay use at the beginning of the 19th century, only the lower yards and topsail yards were equipped with jackstays. It was only in later years, around the middle of the 19th century, that jackstays were also used in the upper yards.
    I think the illustrator only turned the jackstay eyes a little so that they could be recognized as such.

  13. @druxey

    @Bruma

    @jdbondy

    @shipman

    @giampieroricci

    Hello friends,
    thank you very much for your interest in my build report and for the kind words.
    Also many thanks to all of you for the many LIKES.

     

    Continuation: Equipping the main topgallant yard - Vergue de grand perroquet

    Once I had clarified the details for the footropes with the stirrups, it was time for the implementation. Thanks to the corresponding preliminary work on a test piece, the stirrups were attached to the yard quickly and without any problems.
    Before the eye splices of the footropes could be pulled over the yardarms, the prepared grommets were first put on as chafe protection.

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    When attaching the footropes in the center of the yard, I used the following example as a guide.

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    Source: Freiherr v. Sterneck, "Takelung und Ankerkunde", 1873

     

    This is what the realization for the model looks like:

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    I have now also made the mousing to secure the hook for the tye:

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    The simple buntlines were guided in thimbles at the topgallant yards of the French corvette. These buntlines branched out in the lower area onto two ropes, which were attached to the leeches of the sail. I therefore attached a thimble directly to the tye, as seen on the original Parisian model.

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    The clewlines for the topgallant sails were normally connected to the clews by means of toggles. Without sails, the clewlines are connected directly to the topgallant sheets.

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    The single-guided lifts, the braces attached directly with eye splices and the aforementioned sheets complete the equipment of the main topgallant yard. These ropes have a diameter of ø 0.25 mm and served eye splices for laying on the yardarms.

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    The last two pictures give an overview of the main topgallant yard with all equipment elements and ropes.

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    I will continue with the fore topgallant yard.

     

    More about that soon ...

  14. Continuation: Equipment of the main topgallant yard – Vergue de grand perroquet
    The next step was the production of the quarter blocks. In the first picture you can see the quarter blocks with a length of 3.0 mm that have already been provided with strops. At the top left of this picture I show these double blocks compared to a guide block that is used on the deck to redirect the topsail sheets.

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    Here the assembly of the quarter blocks is nearing completion.

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    Before I started making the footropes for the main topgallant yards, I tried to fundamentally clarify the execution details for the topgallant yards.
    In this context, I found what I was looking for in the contemporary specialist literature “Manuel de Greement” by F. A. Coste from 1829 on pages 120/121. Accordingly, the footropes of the top gallantyards of the yardarms each extended slightly beyond the center of the yard, where they were then attached. These footropes could not be tensioned with lanyards like those of the lower yards and topsail yards.

    Since the brams of the La Créole did not yet have a jackstays, unlike the lower yards and topsail yards, the stirrups were designed and attached in the conventional manner. This means that the ropes of the stirrups were braided and looped around the yard with two to three turns. The ends of the braids, also known as plating (in German, I don't know the English name), were fastened with flat-headed nails with leather washers.

    As F. A. Coste describes, the number of stirrups in the topgallant yards must be chosen depending on the yard length. For a corvette like the La Créole, one stirrup per half of the yard should be sufficient.
    To make the stirrups, I was able to find the following in the specialist book “The Ashley Books of Knots” by C. W. Ashley:

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    Of course I had the ambition to implement this detail for my Corvette too. After tying in the thimble, the braid was made after unraveling the rope of the stirrup. This is how the meaning of the braid became clear to me. Since these were no longer round but flat, they could be wrapped very well and tightly around the yard and securely nailed down.
    Since I still had a main topgallant yard as scrap from making the yards, I was able to try out attaching the braids to it. The result can be seen in the next picture.

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    I think that's how I'll ultimately implement it at the topgallant yards.
    Sequel follows …

  15. Equipment of the topgallant yards– Itague de vergue de grand perroquet

    In the meantime I'm working on equipping the topgallant yards.

    I'm slowly starting to get the feeling that the higher I get in the rigging, the less information there is about the details; be it from the monograph or from the relevant specialist literature. There is obviously less to be found on the internet. Apparently it is due to the importance or meaning of the components, as a large yard literally has more weight.
    Or to put it somewhat jokingly, the higher the air, the thinner the air..., of course, meant the information density... 😊

     

    So I brought together information about the execution of the truss from a wide variety of sources, as can be seen in the following pictures.
    Accordingly, from my point of view, I was able to clarify the execution of the tye with the double strop for the top gallant. I think that this detail can also be used analogously for the royals.

     

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    Source: Detailed photo detail of the original model Musée national de la Marine – edited / Atlas du Génie Maritime – edited

     

    The implementation for the main topgallant yard of the model then looks like this, as shown. The “mousing” as a hook lock is only attached when the yard is finally equipped.

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    We then continued with the truss. This was made like the truss for the topsail yards with leather coating.

    The following drawing by K. H. Marquardt, but served.
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    Source: Karl Heinz Marquardt, Masting and Rigging of 18th Century Ships

     

    In the last two pictures you can see the tye and the truss for the main topgallant yard,  which will only be finally lashed to the topgallant mast of the model later.

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    In the next step I will work on making the quarter blocks as double blocks with a length of 3.0 mm for the topgallant yards, which are used to guide the royal sheets and clew lines.

     

    So, see you soon….

     

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