James H Posted July 17, 2018 #1 Posted July 17, 2018 Professional Building Slip Hobbyzone Catalogue # HZ-PSM1 Available from Hobbyzone for £50.00 We recently took a look at Hobbyzone's Small Building Slip, catering to hull lengths of an average of 600mm to 800mm maximum, but if you want something for larger hulls and with even more flexibility, then today, we take a look at the Professional Building Slip. Hobbyzone has asked me to build this as an assembly guide for them, to help to negate any incorrect assembly which has found its way into some completed slips, and they also intend to link this guide for general reference. Some errors that customers have made pertain to parts orientation, so with this guide, we hope to show you how to successfully complete this mini-project. First of all, the Professional Building Slip caters to hulls up to 100cm in length, so will obviously take in many of the larger kits in our hobby, plus those impressive POF scratch builds we aspire to. This product also varies from its smaller cousin by the ability to be able to rotate a fixed hull through 360°. Of course, the slip can be used for everything from laying the keel/false keel, through to erecting the formers/bulkheads, and then to simply hold and rotate a semi-assembled hull whilst you plank and even fit out the hull at advanced stages of assembly, as well as act as a simple cradle. The completed unit has a length of 100cm, a width of 25cm and will take a keel of out to 7mm in thickness. Packed into a card box, this HEAVY box has all parts within protected by many layers of bubblewrap. Construction is from MDF, with some parts being faced in plastic and engraved with the CNC router for measurements etc. A hefty hardware bag is also included. All you will need to assemble the Professional Building Slip is: Wood glue Craft knife Clamps Instructions are provided on a single sheet of paper, along with an amendment slip stating the use for some included nails. We'll mention this later in the build. CONSTRUCTING THE PROFESSIONAL BUILDING SLIP 1. Before we can start to assemble this project, all parts need to be released from the CNC-routed sheets. A couple of shallow tags are all that connect the parts to their sheets, and these can simply be cut through with a regular craft knife. 2. Once all parts are released, remove any traces of the MDF tags that held them onto the frames. A craft knife is all that is required for this. 3. I now construct the guide bars that sit either side of the slip, using Titebond III glue to secure. Please note the orientation of the vertical parts, and the hex nut head position. These items are mirrored. 4. Each of these guide bars will hold a clamp that will grip the various formers/bulkheads of your model. To begin their construction, I glue the following items together. 5. When these had set, I sat them on top of each other. DO NOT GLUE! 6. NOW, I may glue the other halves of the clamps into place. Sitting the two sections together merely ensures that the clamp faces are parallel to each other...nothing more. 7. With everything fully dry, the clamps are fitted to the guide bars that I previously made, using the nuts, bolts and washers in the hardware pack. Again, not the orientation of the clamps in the guide bars, and that their positions are mirrored. 8. Now I will construct the keel clamp holders that secure to the vertical platforms at each side of the Professional Building Slip. Here, we just push the two nuts firmly into position on the backplates. 9. Using wood glue, attach the keel clamp holder faces to the backplates. Please note the orientation with regard to the hex-head positions, and ensure that everything is square. 10. Now we can construct the keel clamps, in exactly the same way that we made them for the guide bars in the earlier stages. Firstly, glue the parts you see together, using wood glue. 11. Glue the opposite side to the two clamps, and use a bolt to ensure that the holes are aligned. Remember, these two keel clamps in the photo are only sat on top of each other to ensure that the jaws are equidistant. Do not glue them together, of course! 12. When all parts are set, fit the keel clamps to the clamp holders, using the nuts, bolts and washers. Please note that the positions of the bolts can be changed to suit the model you are building. 13. Each of the keel clamps we have just built, is secured to a moveable guide that sit at either side of the Professional Building Slip. To build the guides, I first glue the two supports in position on each of the guide faces. 14. Now, NOTING ORIENTATION of the baseplate, each in turn is glued to the vertical face and left to thoroughly set. 15. Glue the feet to the underside of each of the moveable guides. 16. Using the supplied nuts and bolts, fasten the keep clamps to the moveable guides. 17. We can now build the vertical face which helps us to ensure the model's bulkheads and frames are vertical and even in height on both sides. Firstly, glue the supports to the vertical face. 18. Now glue the feet. 19. At this point, I decide to glue the parts together for the guide which slides up and down this vertical plate. 20. Now I can bring this guide together with the main assembly and fit it with the nut and bolt, so it may be adjusted. I also glue the main white face to the vertical guide plate. 21. You need to clear some workbench space now as we start to assemble the baseboard. Start by pushing the nuts into the hex-head shaped holes. 22. Turn over the baseboard so the nuts are UNDERNEATH, and then apply glue to the top side. Fit the white plastic-faced panel onto this and clamp together until FULLY SET! 23. Un-clamp the glued boards and flip it over so the white face in on the bottom. Now, sit the remaining board on top of this, with the screw head indents facing upwards. Using the supplied screws, fit the board into position. 24.Using the supplied bolts and washers, fit the various assemblies to the baseboard, as thus. REMEMBER that the small edge clamps that you see fastened to the horizontal keel clamp halves are only PRESSED into position and they are NOT glued. This allows them to be repositioned to accommodate the positions of the frames/bulkheads of your model. *******NOTE******* A small number of nails are in included in the pack and there is an amendment sheet to indicate their use. These can be driven through the back end of the various clamps to strengthen them. Remember that these parts will bend as you tighten them, but for me, I would prefer to mostly use thin strips of packing if the keel and bulkheads are significantly thinner than the clamps, as this will remove most of the stress from them. That's it...your Professional Building Slip is COMPLETE! Here are some photos showing its use. My sincere thanks to Hobbyzone for sending this out for review on Model Ship World. To purchase, click the link at the top of the article. Scottish Guy, GrandpaPhil, KentM and 13 others 15 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
Jasseji Posted July 17, 2018 #2 Posted July 17, 2018 I actually have a Comment on the instructions @James H, regarding steps 7, 12 and 20. I have placed the Nuts in the Hex-Holes same as in step 8, this way it seems easier to remove the screw if repositioning of the clamp is needed - perhaps for the holders from step 7 and 20 it is not that important, as you would only unscrew them a bit to change the angle/position but in case of the front and back holder (step 12) i would rather suggest to place the nuts in the cutouts - this screw will be more often taken out and you might damage the socket if you do it a few times. Also you can see on this pictures, that's how Wojciech has it on his site: http://www.hobbyzone.pl/data/gallery/256_600x600.jpg http://www.hobbyzone.pl/data/gallery/253_600x600.jpg Canute, Scottish Guy, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Jacek Current Build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models 1/64 On Hold/Parallel: Lady Nelson - Amati/Victory Models 1/64
James H Posted July 17, 2018 Author #3 Posted July 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Jasseji said: I actually have a Comment on the instructions @James H, regarding steps 7, 12 and 20. I have placed the Nuts in the Hex-Holes same as in step 8, this way it seems easier to remove the screw if repositioning of the clamp is needed - perhaps for the holders from step 7 and 20 it is not that important, as you would only unscrew them a bit to change the angle/position but in case of the front and back holder (step 12) i would rather suggest to place the nuts in the cutouts - this screw will be more often taken out and you might damage the socket if you do it a few times. Also you can see on this pictures, that's how Wojciech has it on his site: http://www.hobbyzone.pl/data/gallery/256_600x600.jpg http://www.hobbyzone.pl/data/gallery/253_600x600.jpg Thanks for that. Depending on application, you could well be right. This is a pretty flexible system and the hardware can be changed around to accommodate the model. It's easy enough to remove and rotate these parts, thankfully. I also find it easier to drive the bolt from the socket, instead of the nuts. Keith Black, thibaultron, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
Jasseji Posted July 17, 2018 #4 Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, James H said: Thanks for that. Depending on application, you could well be right. This is a pretty flexible system and the hardware can be changed around to accommodate the model. It's easy enough to remove and rotate these parts, thankfully. I also find it easier to drive the bolt from the socket, instead of the nuts. indeed, but i have my doubts how often i can do that before the socket is damaged, you dont need to take out the nut (only buy more nuts) Anyway, i am looking now to replace all the screws with butterfly-screws Canute, tkay11, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Jacek Current Build: HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models 1/64 On Hold/Parallel: Lady Nelson - Amati/Victory Models 1/64
AndrewNaylor Posted July 19, 2018 #5 Posted July 19, 2018 Now that is a good looking well made very useful tool James H, mtaylor, Scottish Guy and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build HM Granado CC Past builds HMS Chatham CC, HM Convulsion CC, Duke William German Kit, Fair American LSS, The Wright Flyer MS
Tigerdvr Posted July 20, 2018 #6 Posted July 20, 2018 I've been using mine for a couple of years now. Big enough to easily handle the ME Confederacy. Configuration is very flexible. I've even used some the parts independent of the base. You won't use all the fixtures all the time. The wing nut idea is the way to go. Is it better than what works for you right now? Probably not but I think it's pretty handy and have not been tempted to use anything else since I got it. Cheers, Harley tkay11, Scottish Guy, James H and 4 others 7 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Yorktown CV-5 1/200 by Trumpeter Completed: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 US Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started, On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood
James H Posted July 21, 2018 Author #7 Posted July 21, 2018 10 hours ago, tigerdvr said: I've been using mine for a couple of years now. Big enough to easily handle the ME Confederacy. Configuration is very flexible. I've even used some the parts independent of the base. You won't use all the fixtures all the time. The wing nut idea is the way to go. Is it better than what works for you right now? Probably not but I think it's pretty handy and have not been tempted to use anything else since I got it. Cheers, Harley I'll be using wing nuts with mine too, so that's a neat idea. It's been a few years since I built a ship, and back in the day I used an Amati Keel Clamper, but that is way to small for my future projects of HMS Vanguard and Revenge. This building slip is perfect for the job. Scottish Guy, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
amateur Posted July 21, 2018 #8 Posted July 21, 2018 Just a question: The slip can hold keel, stern and bulkheads into position. It can even be used to turn the model side-upwards. But it looks as if there is little margin when the stern has not the same thickness as the MDF-piece. (the clamps in step 6 and 16 look rather rigid to me) Is there any flexibility when your stern is thicker/thinner than the one of the example-model? Jan thibaultron, mtaylor, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote
James H Posted July 21, 2018 Author #9 Posted July 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, amateur said: Just a question: The slip can hold keel, stern and bulkheads into position. It can even be used to turn the model side-upwards. But it looks as if there is little margin when the stern has not the same thickness as the MDF-piece. (the clamps in step 6 and 16 look rather rigid to me) Is there any flexibility when your stern is thicker/thinner than the one of the example-model? Jan There is flexibility there, but I put in my article that I would use shim pieces to pack out the clamps as much as possible. Scottish Guy, Canute, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
Tigerdvr Posted July 22, 2018 #10 Posted July 22, 2018 You couldn't turn a hull over for planking. If your ship's stem and stern were strong enough you could adjust the fore and aft clamps to work on the deck for instance. I just stick some pieces of firm Styrofoam under the side I want elevated to get a slant as needed. Harley Keith Black, Canute, Scottish Guy and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Yorktown CV-5 1/200 by Trumpeter Completed: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 US Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started, On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood
VTHokiEE Posted January 5, 2020 #11 Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I've had my eye on this building slip since I saw this review (really, it is over kill for me but I was concerned that I would "quickly" outgrow the smaller version ), but I live in the US and almost all the locations that I saw for the slip were in Europe and due to the size of the slip shipping costs became something of a non-starter. Recently I emailed hobbyzone to inquire about their shipping costs and they directed me to http://www.hobbyworld-usa.com/. The banner of the website triggered my spidey-sense, so I asked my wife to order it for me instead for a birthday gift (😉). It arrived a few weeks ago and today I finally celebrated my birthday and opened the slip. I still have to put it all together, but I wanted to let anyone in the USA who is interested know where you might find it. Edited January 5, 2020 by VTHokiEE JeffT, pwog, Keith Black and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
James H Posted January 5, 2020 Author #12 Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, VTHokiEE said: I've had my eye on this building slip since I saw this review (really, it is over kill for me but I was concerned that I would "quickly" outgrow the smaller version ), but I live in the US and almost all the locations that I saw for the slip were in Europe and due to the size of the slip shipping costs became something of a non-starter. Recently I emailed hobbyzone to inquire about their shipping costs and they directed me to http://www.hobbyworld-usa.com/. The banner of the website triggered my spidey-sense, so I asked my wife to order it for me instead for a birthday gift (😉). It arrived a few weeks ago and today I finally celebrated my birthday and opened the slip. I still have to put it all together, but I wanted to let anyone in the USA who is interested know where you might find it. Great stuff! If you want to add to this topic by showing a few photos on how you use it with your model, feel free. thibaultron, Keith Black, VTHokiEE and 3 others 6 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
JeffT Posted January 5, 2020 #13 Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, VTHokiEE said: I've had my eye on this building slip since I saw this review (really, it is over kill for me but I was concerned that I would "quickly" outgrow the smaller version ), but I live in the US and almost all the locations that I saw for the slip were in Europe and due to the size of the slip shipping costs became something of a non-starter. Recently I emailed hobbyzone to inquire about their shipping costs and they directed me to http://www.hobbyworld-usa.com/. The banner of the website triggered my spidey-sense, so I asked my wife to order it for me instead for a birthday gift (😉). It arrived a few weeks ago and today I finally celebrated my birthday and opened the slip. I still have to put it all together, but I wanted to let anyone in the USA who is interested know where you might find it. I just bought one from there recently also. VTHokiEE, thibaultron, Scottish Guy and 3 others 6 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
VTHokiEE Posted January 6, 2020 #14 Posted January 6, 2020 On 1/5/2020 at 1:32 PM, James H said: Great stuff! If you want to add to this topic by showing a few photos on how you use it with your model, feel free. Will do once I start using it. I wanted to let you know that I am really grateful for your directions posted here. I’ve barely begun and I’m 75% certain I would’ve messed up the first step without your warning regarding the hex holes. Thank you! mtaylor, Scottish Guy, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: HM Sloop Echo 1781 (First Scratch Build) Previous Builds: HM Cutter Alert, Sharpie Schooner, Chesapeake Bay Flattie, Half-Hull (NRG)
Gregory Posted January 6, 2020 #15 Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) Ooops.. Solved my problem. Edited January 6, 2020 by Gregory thibaultron, Keith Black, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote “Indecision may or may not be my problem.” ― Jimmy Buffett Current builds: Rattlesnake On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon
vossy Posted January 6, 2020 #16 Posted January 6, 2020 any Australian suppliers/stockists for this? Cheers Chris Canute, thibaultron, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote
Wacom Posted January 8, 2020 #17 Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) On 1/7/2020 at 12:13 PM, vossy said: any Australian suppliers/stockists for this? Cheers Chris BNA model world. Good price, fast delivery, great place to find those hard to get items. No connection, just a very satisfied customer. 👍 Edited January 8, 2020 by nzreg Canute, Tomo in Oz, Scottish Guy and 4 others 7 Quote Reg
ASAT Posted January 12, 2020 #18 Posted January 12, 2020 Hey Jeff, or anyone that has actually used this slip - I’m interested but is it accurate? Can I slide the bulkhead upright guide into place and Have complete confidence that everything is square, level, and fair? Or do I have to get out my small square, or my machined blocks and verify that everything is in perfect position? If I have to do that I might as well just square up the bulkhead like I always do and move on.... in other words does this jig stay in alignment as you start using it or does it need to be “trued” every time you move it? Is it really effective or is it just nice to have? Thanks guys.... Scottish Guy 1 Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
JeffT Posted January 12, 2020 #19 Posted January 12, 2020 15 hours ago, ASAT said: Hey Jeff, or anyone that has actually used this slip - I’m interested but is it accurate? Can I slide the bulkhead upright guide into place and Have complete confidence that everything is square, level, and fair? Or do I have to get out my small square, or my machined blocks and verify that everything is in perfect position? If I have to do that I might as well just square up the bulkhead like I always do and move on.... in other words does this jig stay in alignment as you start using it or does it need to be “trued” every time you move it? Is it really effective or is it just nice to have? Thanks guys.... I've not assembled mine yet so I don't know for sure. I think there are a few people using here for builds though. Canute, thibaultron, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
ASAT Posted January 23, 2020 #20 Posted January 23, 2020 Well I decided to give it a shot and ordered one, they’re back ordered! I didn’t find out till the order went through so now I have to wait- two weeks they said..... we’ll see..... they did give me a discount coupon for my next order for the inconvenience though, pretty cool of them! Scottish Guy 1 Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
Osmosis Posted January 23, 2020 #21 Posted January 23, 2020 (edited) I have one and have pics of using it to build the keel and frames in my San Francisco Cross Section thread click the link in my signature below. Dead accurate for frame alignment. Also have a link for all of the Hobby Zone stuff I have built and used. Edited January 23, 2020 by Osmosis Keith Black, JeffT, thibaultron and 3 others 6 Quote Art Smith Current Build: E.M. White Guide Canoe - Canoe Model Kits, San Francisco Cross Section - Artesania Latina Completed: Peterboro Canoe - Midwest , Hobbyzone Organizers and Building Jigs, Guns of History Naval Smoothbore, 1st Build: Midwest Sakonnet Daysailer
JeffT Posted January 23, 2020 #22 Posted January 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Osmosis said: I have one and have pics of using it to build the keel and frames in my San Francisco Cross Section thread click the link in my signature below. Dead accurate for frame alignment. Also have a link for all of the Hobby Zone stuff I have built and used. The same thing happened to me when I ordered but it took more like a month and a half. Scottish Guy, mtaylor, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Dsmith20639 Posted January 23, 2020 #23 Posted January 23, 2020 I just picked one up online a few days ago from Free Time Hobbies in Blue Ridge, GA. for $29.99. Guess I lucked out. mtaylor, Keith Black, Justin P. and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Armed Virginia Sloop Previous Builds: , Amati Fifie, Glad Tidings,Bluenose II, Chesapeake Bay Skipjack, Fair American, Danmark, Constitution Cross Section, Bluenose
stuglo Posted January 31, 2020 #24 Posted January 31, 2020 "*******NOTE******* A small number of nails are in included in the pack and there is an amendment sheet to indicate their use. These can be driven through the back end of the various clamps to strengthen them. Remember that these parts will bend as you tighten them, but for me, I would prefer to mostly use thin strips of packing if the keel and bulkheads are significantly thinner than the clamps, as this will remove most of the stress " Just finished assembly. well thought out and solid. The blog definitely helped quick assembly -about 2.5 hours. Do I understand correctly that you did NOT use the nails? (delivery from Poland was 1 month from order and cost 46$- not bad considering I often pay 20$ just for delivery of book - by standard post!) Strongly recommend this device. Scottish Guy, Canute, James H and 3 others 6 Quote current build- Swan ,scratch on shelf,Rattlesnake, Alert semi scratch,Le Coureur,, Fubbs scratch completed: nostrum mare,victory(Corel), san felipe, sovereign of the seas, sicilian cargo boat ,royal yacht caroline, armed pinnace, charles morgan whaler, galilee boat, wappen von hamburg, la reale (Dusek), amerigo vespucci, oneida (semi scratch) diane, great harry-elizabethan galleon (semi scratch), agammemnon, hanna (scratch).19th cent. shipyard diorama (Constructo), picket boat, victory bow section
Cazpert Posted January 31, 2020 #25 Posted January 31, 2020 Thanks to your presentation I have perfectly mounted the support It is a very good job thanks again thibaultron, James H, Scottish Guy and 3 others 6 Quote
Justin P. Posted February 1, 2020 #26 Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) On 1/23/2020 at 7:01 AM, Dsmith20639 said: I just picked one up online a few days ago from Free Time Hobbies in Blue Ridge, GA. for $29.99. Guess I lucked out. Thanks for the heads up on this, so far still on sale for $29.99, but at least that much for shipping. BUT if I spent another $20 I got free shipping so... Half-price! Cant beat that. I had just reached out to HobbyZone USA about when the back-ordered item might come in and they ignored me. So... good for me. Thanks again! UPDATE: Free Time Hobbies cancelled my order :(. I guess they ran out. Not surprised, at the price they were selling, it was a steal. Edited February 4, 2020 by Justin P. Canute, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Current: US Brig SYREN - Model Shipways - Scale 1:64 Completed: HMS TRITON - Cross Section - Scale 1:48 / Gallery Secret Vessel MOREL - Master Korabel - Scale 1:36 / Gallery 18th Century Armed Longboat - Model Shipways - Scale 1:24 / Gallery HMS BOUNTY Launch - Model Shipways - Scale 1:16 / Gallery
LyleK1 Posted February 23, 2020 #27 Posted February 23, 2020 I just finished assembling mine! Looking forward to my AL HMS Bounty build using this tool, Keith Black, thibaultron, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Lyle "The only thing that stays the same is the constant state of change" Completed Builds: Occre HMS Terror - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2065-hms-terror-occre/ NRG Half Hull Project - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23546-half-hull-project-by-lylek1-nrg/ 1:130 1847 Harvey - https://modelshipworld.com/gallery/album/2125-1847-baltimore-clipper-harvey-1130-scale/ Scott Miller's Sea of Galilee Boat - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/29007-sea-of-galilee-boat-by-se-miller-120-scale-lylek1/ In progress: Artesania Latina HMS Bounty - https://modelshipworld.com/topic/26817-hms-bounty-by-lylek1-artesania-latina-148-scale/ Waiting for dry-dock space: Model Shipways - USS Constitution Master Korbel - Cannon Jolle 1801 A Scratch build -TBD
ASAT Posted March 9, 2020 #28 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) Just got mine - 10 days transit! But it was intact with no damage (UPS) Assembling it now.... I would add that a sanding block of some sort should be added to the list of tools required- the knife cleans the parts ok but the nubs need to be sanded flush..... in fact after doing a few nubs I am just using a sanding block with 100 grit on it.... and I am using 3M contact adhesive for the adhering the white laminated piece’s. just preference for laminating stuff... Edited March 9, 2020 by ASAT Scottish Guy 1 Quote Lou, In Pleasant View Harvey by ASAT- AL Scale 1:50 - Kitbash Fair American by ASAT - LSS Craftsman Plus https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23121-revenge-1577-by-asat-amati-164/
James H Posted March 10, 2020 Author #29 Posted March 10, 2020 On 1/31/2020 at 4:05 PM, Cazpert said: Thanks to your presentation I have perfectly mounted the support It is a very good job thanks again Hope to see you using it on a build soon. mtaylor, Scottish Guy, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
James H Posted March 10, 2020 Author #30 Posted March 10, 2020 18 hours ago, ASAT said: Just got mine - 10 days transit! But it was intact with no damage (UPS) Assembling it now.... I would add that a sanding block of some sort should be added to the list of tools required- the knife cleans the parts ok but the nubs need to be sanded flush..... in fact after doing a few nubs I am just using a sanding block with 100 grit on it.... and I am using 3M contact adhesive for the adhering the white laminated piece’s. just preference for laminating stuff... Old habits die hard with me as I carved away those nubs with a scalpel. I sometimes think I'm still working on plastic models 🤪 Canute, Keith Black, Scottish Guy and 2 others 4 1 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
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