Wulfe Hound - captured B 17 - 1:72 scale by Popeye the Sailor - finished

[CDW]

Denis

Love your last photos of the plane. The faded look of the weathering looks perfect! The stand is a very effect as well.

[popeye the sailor]

thanks to all who hit the like button.....and your kind comments    I got lucky with the fading......I don't do it enough.  it sits a bit better on the stand too,  since I added more cement to the pin.  this is why the guide button I put in the fuselage is so important.  being off center,  without the guide button,  the plane would be in a nose dive.   ....and that just wouldn't be very appealing     I will admit,  this was an odd subject to model,  but it shed light on an aspect of the war that wasn't really talked about.  just a couple more touch ups,  and the Wulfe Hound will be finished  

[popeye the sailor]

I was in the spare room most of the day today........Wulfie is sitting on the table that we do puzzles on {I've taken it over at the moment}

still waiting for her finishing touches  

[jct]

Making a bombing run on Agilis I see, very fitting    Nice bird

[tomwilberg]

Sorry to step in late...

 

the base mentioned earlier is RECHLIN. It is located about 100km northwest of Berlin just south of the Müritz lakeside area. Still, it may be visited and it has got a small museum on that spot.

 

There is a story about test-flying that particular B-17 (and lots of others)

Hans-Werner LERCHE

Testpilot auf Beuteflugzeugen

One of the episodes in there is how he flew the B-17 to Vienna in order to show it around to the fighter jocks and others. I remember what wrote about scaring the sh*t out of a pilot doing training on FW Stösser ...

If there is an English version available, I don’t know. Since it was published by Motor Buch, it might have come from Motor Books in the US.

 

whoever is interested in more: The German modelling magazine MODELL-FAN had quite number of documentation about “Beuteflugzeuge” .

 

greets

thomas

[popeye the sailor]

any time is a good time Thomas.  the book on KG 200 was very helpful with this subject.  at any given time,  the KG 200 had around twenty B 17's that were flyable...they also had an assortment of other planes,  as well as British Spitfires and who knows what else    B 24's and B 25's were also captured and studied.  this is a subject that really hasn't attracted too many modelers........an obscure subject to be sure.  but I stumbled onto it and it was so unique,  that I had to try it.  I think it worked out very well    the idea was so interesting to do,  that I made up my mind to do another project that is somewhat obscure......I read about it......I've even seen it,  but I have the perfect model for it,  and I decided to give it a go.  sadly....it's not a plane.  I may not go into this subject again.......but I have a habit of checking out ever link that's sent to me { I wouldn't be a modeler if I didn't}.

thanks for the head's up     hope to see you in one of my other projects....promise......... I'll give you a good laugh   

 

I was hoping you'd look in J...........yea....this plastic stuff grabbed me by the golden globes and won't let go.  kind of refreshing to work with wood again....and with you {not gett'in mushy or anything like that} "brothers don't shake hands.........Brother's hug!   leave it to me to pick the strangest projects.....aye!  glad you like the model.....just a tad more I want to do,  and then I'll have the finished photos.   thank you my friend!

 

hey......and thank you all for the likes!    I appreciate the interest during my insane episode........I hope I can come up with another ............soon

[Old Collingwood]

2 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

any time is a good time Thomas.  the book on KG 200 was very helpful with this subject.  at any given time,  the KG 200 had around twenty B 17's that were flyable...they also had an assortment of other planes,  as well as British Spitfires and who knows what else    B 24's and B 25's were also captured and studied.  this is a subject that really hasn't attracted too many modelers........an obscure subject to be sure.  but I stumbled onto it and it was so unique,  that I had to try it.  I think it worked out very well    the idea was so interesting to do,  that I made up my mind to do another project that is somewhat obscure......I read about it......I've even seen it,  but I have the perfect model for it,  and I decided to give it a go.  sadly....it's not a plane.  I may not go into this subject again.......but I have a habit of checking out ever link that's sent to me { I wouldn't be a modeler if I didn't}.

thanks for the head's up     hope to see you in one of my other projects....promise......... I'll give you a good laugh   

 

I was hoping you'd look in J...........yea....this plastic stuff grabbed me by the golden globes and won't let go.  kind of refreshing to work with wood again....and with you {not gett'in mushy or anything like that} "brothers don't shake hands.........Brother's hug!   leave it to me to pick the strangest projects.....aye!  glad you like the model.....just a tad more I want to do,  and then I'll have the finished photos.   thank you my friend!

 

hey......and thank you all for the likes!    I appreciate the interest during my insane episode........I hope I can come up with another ............soon

Well said denis.👍

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

which part??? 

[Old Collingwood]

25 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

which part??? 

All of it, just liked what you put  mate.

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

oh..........it's just me.  I've always said that there are many subjects out there,  that are just crying for some one to exploit them.  it's likely why this subject jumped out at me.....it's not like the U.S. sold the Germans these planes, as we have with other countries.   ships are perhaps the No 1 subject for little known participants in history.....planes I think are No 2.   I was siked when I found that the Wulfe Hound was the first bomber captured by the Germans....it kinda made it special.   the colors made her look interesting as well.   I did make a small mistake...........likely there are others that I didn't notice....there are two white stripes on the prop blades.......not just one.

   on well......chalk it up to other details that even the author of the article didn't pick up on    I try not to dwell on a subject for too long........I stumbled when I looked into the B 17............so many model worthy planes.  I found it good that the possibilities to expand on the subject is quite large.......so many decal sets out there depicting different nose arts.   I have one more to go into,  and then I will close the book on the B 17......and I do believe I've set my sights on another obscure subject to model........on a very famous ship  

 

I'm glad you liked it OC.........I think that of all the wonderful folks I've met since I've been here.   it's the basis of what this site means to us all  

[popeye the sailor]

well...I'm going to call it finished.  I added the unit markings and a little soot from the engines,  and there ya go.   the unit markings amount to splotches of paint on the ailerons and rudder.......from what I gathered,  the 303rd marked their planes this way,  but the Wulfe Hound was the only one I noticed with these markings.  I'm not totally happy with the pictures.......if anyone feels gypped,  let me know and I'll try to take better ones.  I think the lighting had something to do with it.

 

  

  

  

I got a scare when I sat down to do it...........almost knocked it off the desk!    that would have very bad    I mentioned this....probably at the beginning of the log that there are two accounts of her demise.   one account stated that she became damaged and had to ditch in the Bay of Kalamata,  but the other account is more believable.   a B 17 was seen at Oranienburg airfield towards the end of the war.....the rest of the article is here:

Wulfe Hound

serial numbers on the parts don't lie.  here is another article that might be of interest to you OC:

Wulfe Hund - The B-17 Captured by Luftwaffe

as I was bringing her to the place where she will be displayed...I also realized I forgot the antenna wires.  I'll do them at a later time

  

one of these models in 1:72 is still a decent size model.......even close to a 1:64 scale model.  I'm going to need to juggle them around when the Memphis Belle gets here    so thanks to all of you who came to visit,  I really appreciated the suggestions and kind words....it made the model what it is.

[Jack12477]

Nicely done, Denis. Good looking model  

[CDW]

The Wulfehound looks outstanding Denis. The most unusual B-17 I've ever seen. The color combination really sets it off. I like the way the handpainted "B" came out on the vertical stab. Looks more authentic that way.

[Old Collingwood]

Great work denis  - its becoming a lovely  tribute to the  Fortress,   thank you for the link as well.

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

thanks Jack  

 

thanks to you as well Craig.   I thought that was funny about the decal set........they can supply the numbers with the faded look,  but they didn't do the 'B'.  in pictures,  it's quite visible.  it's a bit more visible than it should be,  but when I started to dab on the German gray,  the decal began to come apart.  I didn't push the issue.

[popeye the sailor]

you welcome OC........and thanks for the good word.   when I read the number of British planes they had,  I thought of you.  perhaps you can show us a Spitfire with German markings   

[Old Collingwood]

2 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

you welcome OC........and thanks for the good word.   when I read the number of British planes they had,  I thought of you.  perhaps you can show us a Spitfire with German markings   

May have to think about that one,   bet there are a few German ones  that  the MOD  got there hand s on also.

 

OC.

[mtaylor]

Nice work, Denis.  Came out looking the bees knees.   The Brits and the US also had quite a few German aircraft also so it could go the other way as far as models.

[lmagna]

I think you got some very nice results with what you had to work with Denis. Definitely a unique seldom explored subject. 

 

No problem with adding the Memphis Bell to the set. Just build her in flight and do the same thing they did to the real aircraft. Suspend her above the other two from the shelf above. 

 

They apparently did some fantastic restoration work on the inside of the real Memphis Bell but no one will ever see it because she is suspended from the ceiling. But then I suppose a B-17 is so big, even on the ground the work inside would not gave been that visible either. 

 

Your shelf display area is beginning to look pretty nice with your finished builds.

[jct]

Nice job D, very different I like it...by the way, how did the bombing run turn out

[Edwardkenway]

Great job Denis, I like the different take as a captured plane used against its former masters😉

[Canute]

Denis, thanks for sharing your handiwork on this piece of history. Well done.👍

 

Guys, look up Operation Paperclip. That was when the UK/US took many German planes back to their respective countries to study. Many of our early jet designs took great chunks of the German technology for use. I know the Smithsonian Museum in the US has a number of their aircraft in storage. I assume the the British museums have other stashed also. And they did it with ships, too. The German designs were dispersed to the victors. The USN got a German Destroyer (Z-39 ). We studied it and eventually passed it to the French, who used it to keep their war reparations operational. There were other ships, too, such as the Prinz Eugen. The US nuked it, along with a lot of surplus USN ships, to study blast effects on these ships.

[Kevin]

love the paint work, and yet another fine kit built, and a different aspect of aviation history behind her as well

[GrandpaPhil]

Nicely done, Denis!

[Kevin]

here is another story, of a captured German Submarine

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Graph

[popeye the sailor]

thanks to everyone for the overwhelming responses     we can take this a step further Ken.........this has gone on since the days of sail.  captured ships were never burned in place..........it's sprinkled all through history.  a captured ship was brought back as a 'prize'....what do you suppose they did with it........   the ship was studied and if it could be refitted,  it was.  we certainly weren't the only country doing it.  during the Civil War,  the Confederates captured the U.S.S. United States and used her as a blockade.  this opens the door even wider for modelers.......a higher level would be to model a ship or plane that was used as a 'Trojan Horse'...I'm sure there were a few in 17th and 18th century history   

it won't be hard to display the Memphis Bell Lou.......I'll find a place for her with her like.  ....even if I have to make another shelf {I keep thinking about it....one of these days}.  I will look and see if I still have that article I found on her.   her restoration was a long and over due process....but it wasn't because of money or time.   they restored her using genuine parts......there was no jury rigging or modification of the original equipment.  there is a picture of her in the hanger,  beside another plane........I think it was the Shoo Shoo Baby.  the Memphis Belle you see on the display floor is an exact replica....right down to the wiring harnesses.     I'll have to get a updated picture of the wall.......that shelving takes up a good portion of it.......it represents roughly half of what I have finished.

 

the question shouldn't be 'can I model it'..............the question should be 'how will I model it'    I an so glad you all enjoyed the project.   the next one will be even bigger......trust me  

[mtaylor]

14 hours ago, Canute said:

Guys, look up Operation Paperclip. That was when the UK/US took many German planes back to their respective countries to study. Many of our early jet designs took great chunks of the German technology for use. I know the Smithsonian Museum in the US has a number of their aircraft in storage. I assume the the British museums have other stashed also. 

As I recall from years ago visiting it, the AF Museum in Dayton had several German aircraft as well as some Italian.  I should add.. from both WWI and WWII.

[lmagna]

You have already modeled two B-17s, one  with gear down and both with closed bomb bay. Not only would hanging from the shelf above save space and allow all three to be shown together it would allow you to have the bomb bay open. Possibly even with bombs falling out!

 

Here is the real thing:

 

 

 

You are right though, it is a masterful restoration.

Edited February 29, 2020 by lmagna

[Kevin]

4 hours ago, lmagna said:

You have already modeled two B-17s, one  with gear down and both with closed bomb bay. Not only would hanging from the shelf above save space and allow all three to be shown together it would allow you to have the bomb bay open. Possibly even with bombs falling out!

 

or above a fire place

Edited February 29, 2020 by Kevin

[lmagna]

THAT WOULD BE FUNNY!!!!!! Well at least once.