AnobiumPunctatum Posted June 9, 2013 #91 Posted June 9, 2013 Robbyn, the hull is looking very good. My kit arrived Friday, now I have to clean my shipyard, before I start Quote Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Shazmira Posted June 9, 2013 Author #92 Posted June 9, 2013 Robbyn, the hull is looking very good. My kit arrived Friday, now I have to clean my shipyard, before I start Well get to cleaning...she is a fun and challenging little build!! Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Trussben Posted June 11, 2013 #93 Posted June 11, 2013 Hi Robbyn, If you have glue residue in between the frames, the way i got rid of it and also leveled out the planking was to use a curved #11 exacto blade and gently scraped it away, very little room to get sandpaper etc... in there. Enjoy your new sparklys. ben Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
Shazmira Posted June 12, 2013 Author #94 Posted June 12, 2013 Ok, one quick pic because I promised, and I always try to keep my promises. need to sand the painted hull one more time, but I am letting the paint "set" until tomorrow. Friezes are on and 1st little "strip" that borders and sets off the friezes. still thinking I would have preferred it without the painted hull...... fnkershner, Cuda1949, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Anja Posted June 12, 2013 #95 Posted June 12, 2013 Hello Robbyn, Looking good. Nice work. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
mtaylor Posted June 12, 2013 #96 Posted June 12, 2013 Very nicely done, Robbyn. I guess your not a real fan of painting? Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
augie Posted June 12, 2013 #97 Posted June 12, 2013 still thinking I would have preferred it without the painted hull...... Hmmmmm.... I'm thinking...... maybe you're thinking too much ?? Looks good from here! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Jay 1 Posted June 12, 2013 #98 Posted June 12, 2013 Well done, Robbyn--it's looking really nice! Quote Current Build: Ariel
st george Posted June 12, 2013 #99 Posted June 12, 2013 She looks great Robbyn. I can't believe how much you have done. Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat
trippwj Posted June 12, 2013 #100 Posted June 12, 2013 She's looking amazing, Robbyn. The paint works well with the friezes. Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
lamarvalley Posted June 12, 2013 #101 Posted June 12, 2013 Looks great Robbyn... I think we may be on the same page here... I too am not a huge fan of obscuring good wood behind paint or copper plates but sometimes it does look good...for instance in this case with your longboat The paint works with the friezes and just wait for that red.... it'll pop! Quote
amateur Posted June 12, 2013 #102 Posted June 12, 2013 Robbyn, you're outvoted on the paint. On this side of the room we all like the painted version. Jan augie 1 Quote
Sjors Posted June 12, 2013 #103 Posted June 12, 2013 Nice job Robbyn and thanks for the picture You make my day ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Shazmira Posted June 12, 2013 Author #104 Posted June 12, 2013 Okay, Okay...I do agree, the paint has some aesthetic value lol. It has very kindly, thoughtfully, and tactfully been brought to my attention, that my waterline is incorrect. The waterline is, as most of you know, supposed to be a straight horizontal line, and as you can see mine is not. I thank the person who took the time to point out my error to me, as that is exactly what I hope for and expect from the other builders here. I did try to make a waterline marker...and every time I marked it out, the stupid pencil still insisted on following the lines (curves) of the hull rather than staying perfectly horizontal. Well, 3 days...40 thin coats of paint with sanding between each layer....she is going to have to stay as she is I honestly think, my subconscious got involved here. Personally, when I look at the historically accurate models and replicas, my eyes are drawn to that painted water line, and my mind hates it because the straight line goes against the lines of the hull. it seems to insult my sense of flow, and design. Pretty much why I didn't want to paint it in the first place. So I am betting that as much as my logical mind was trying to create a perfectly horizontal waterline...the more creative and aesthetically driven parts of my brain were rebelling and where the line ended up was a kind of compromise between the two. I can live with it, and when I look at her, I see the sweeping lines I prefer, so...to everyone here, I apologize if my feminine side causes consternation. But as I am a girl...I like it!! And I will live with it. newbuilder101, DCIronfist, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
trippwj Posted June 12, 2013 #105 Posted June 12, 2013 And that, Ms. Robbyn,is what matters most - that you like it! Shazmira, Sjors, DCIronfist and 2 others 5 Quote WayneNeither should a ship rely on one small anchor, nor should life rest on a single hope.Epictetus
newbuilder101 Posted June 12, 2013 #106 Posted June 12, 2013 Another "girl" is going to add her two cents worth. Those same parts exist in my brain: "creative and aesthetically driven parts of my brain were rebelling" Mine would probably rebel also...have to say I like the sweeping lines, even though not correct. This is one reason I didn't paint my previous build...dear knows what I would have done with the paint! Shazmira 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower
augie Posted June 12, 2013 #107 Posted June 12, 2013 I don't think it's a M/F thing at all. Who among us doesn't swoon over the sheer line of a classic vessel? Robbyn has simply underlined it for us! Shazmira, SkerryAmp, newbuilder101 and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
runner63 Posted June 12, 2013 #108 Posted June 12, 2013 I say leave it alone it looks fine to me and I of course am a guy. runner63 Quote
Chuck Seiler Posted June 14, 2013 #109 Posted June 14, 2013 Robbyn, I had the same issues with the painted waterline as you did. I disagree that it is a horizontal line. Due to the fact that it is on a surface that is a compound curve, it is ONLY a straight line when you look at it with your eyes at the waterline level. Otherwise, it appears non-straight. I was able to mark my waterline with a super high-tech waterline marker (see my build log). Once it was marked, but before painted, I sank the model up to the waterline in a tin of sugar. The waterline was correct. I did the same after it was painted. Waterline correct. Sure didn't LOOK correct. I think this is why I like the SULTANA where the whites tuff is not painted below the waterline, rather it is below the wale. It is visually pleasing. The other option is to NOT paint below the waterline. I would think that this would unbalance the visual of the model, with a lot of plain on the bottom and a lot of fancy on top. However, one of the San Diego fleet was not painted below the waterline...and it looked fine. augie 1 Quote Chuck Seiler San Diego Ship Modelers Guild Nautical Research Guild Current Build:: Colonial Schooner SULTANA (scratch from Model Expo Plans), Hanseatic Cog Wutender Hund, Pinas Cross Section Completed: Missouri Riverboat FAR WEST (1876) Scratch, 1776 Gunboat PHILADELPHIA (Scratch), John Smith Shallop
augie Posted June 14, 2013 #110 Posted June 14, 2013 Chuck makes and interesting point. It's the kind of thing we all 'know' but never express or really resolve in our heads. Thanks, Chuck. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Shazmira Posted June 15, 2013 Author #111 Posted June 15, 2013 Wow, it has been a busy, busy week, very little time for building, but the dog run is in now, and the yard is mowed again . In between all the other real life issues, I did manage to finish painting. Unfortunately I did NOT get that nice crisp edge on the top rail . I should have scraped the edge...DO NOT LIKE this soft fuzzy basswood!! the sandpaper gave me too much rounding so I have that white edge showing around my red....oh well...it too will stay Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
gjdale Posted June 15, 2013 #112 Posted June 15, 2013 Don't be so hard on yourself Robbyn, it looks great from here. augie 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Adrieke Posted June 15, 2013 #113 Posted June 15, 2013 I agree it looks really good Robbyn Quote Current builds : HMS Bounty, Constructo Pilar Next build : undecided On the Shelf : AL San Juan, Mamoli HMS Victory Builds on hold : Ochre Gorch Fock, Hachette/Amati Black Pearl Previous Builds Gallery : Virginia; King of Mississippi Previous Builds logs : AL King of Mississippi 1/80
mtaylor Posted June 15, 2013 #114 Posted June 15, 2013 Looks great Robbyn. Once you start adding all the goodies to the inside, there should be enough distraction so it won't be noticed. I had to look several times to see what you were talking about. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Sjors Posted June 15, 2013 #115 Posted June 15, 2013 What's wrong with that Robbyn?????? I wish my paint job looked that good! Keep on going and sooner you can do the rigging at the……SF Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
lamarvalley Posted June 15, 2013 #116 Posted June 15, 2013 Obviously, you set very high standards for yourself. I'd be pretty satisfied with that paint job.... however, knowing you and seeing your work to date... that vessel is gonna get a dunk in mineral spirits, a thorough sanding and a repaint Admit it... you've thought of it haven't you? Quote
Shazmira Posted June 15, 2013 Author #117 Posted June 15, 2013 Don't be so hard on yourself Robbyn, it looks great from here. Thanks Grant, I know, I know, I wanted perfection....but my human failings prevent it I agree it looks really good Robbyn Adriaan, thank you...and btw...where is your pics of all the lights, I am waiting...... Looks great Robbyn. Once you start adding all the goodies to the inside, there should be enough distraction so it won't be noticed. I had to look several times to see what you were talking about. Thanks Mark. I know, most everyone else wont see it, so I should be satisfied...but...dang it anyway!! What's wrong with that Robbyn?????? I wish my paint job looked that good! Keep on going and sooner you can do the rigging at the……SF Serving machine "should" be delivered Monday, then I can get back to the SF and finish her up. Amazing how excited I am to go back to re-do the rigging, but she is my first, and I do so want to take her to completion! Obviously, you set very high standards for yourself. I'd be pretty satisfied with that paint job.... however, knowing you and seeing your work to date... that vessel is gonna get a dunk in mineral spirits, a thorough sanding and a repaint Admit it... you've thought of it haven't you? Randy, lol, yes, I confess, the thought crossed my mind...but I am NOT going to do that. I have come to the conclusion on some things, you just have to be content and say "next time I will do better". Hmmmm, I was thinking there was no way to just remove paint from that top rail without messing up the hull paint job, and this hull is paper thin as it is and would not stand up to any additional sanding. Then, because of your post it did pop into my head to just make a new top rail.........Dang it Randy!!!! Well, I am off to Nebraska for the weekend, I will let that idea simmer for a bit....hmmm...I wish I had some scraps 1/2" x 1/16" of some sort of hardwood. It wouldn't matter what kind, the paint will hide it all anyway but at least a hardwood would hold that sharp edge...hmmm..... Quote Robbyn If you risk nothing, you risk everything! Current builds Syren (Model Shipways) version 2.0 AL San Francisco II Mordaunt (Euro Model) Completed Builds 18th Century Longboat designed by Chuck Passaro In the closet Battle Station Al Charles Morgan (1980s version)
Anja Posted June 15, 2013 #119 Posted June 15, 2013 Hello Robbyn, I must agree with the others. There's nothing wrong with your paintjob. It looks good. Have a nice weekend in Nebraska. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo
themadchemist Posted June 15, 2013 #120 Posted June 15, 2013 Looks good Robbyn. On basswood, I've found the the darker the colour, the hard it is... but it's still easy to round and doesn't hold an edge like cherry for example. The paint looks fine and it won't be so noticable once she's rigged but if your serious I have some 1.5mm x 6mm cherry, IIRC. Cut to length it would fit in a bubble mailer easily, if your interested. I also have a mixture of others but they are 2 x 5. Have fun on your roadtrip. Quote
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